Mother of all conception months Graduates

[madcatwoman]

Enjoy your MW appointment madcat. I knew about forceps which is why I asked for ventouse with Byron. There can be very serious damage to the baby with forceps. One of the worst things is that whether forceps or ventouse are used is largely down to individual doctor choice and training. An old schools doctor might only know how to use forceps. But babies are extremely tough. If you think about it the whole birthing process there's an awful lot of pressure on the baby being pushed about by the uterus and then squeezed down the birth canal. That's why they're so bendy! This is why I get anxious about epidurals being used unnecessarily as they increase the chance of an assisted delivery.

Trying to persuade Byron to play with toys instead of watch TV. He keeps getting all the DVDs down and looking at them wistfully. I have called in sick. I guess I have some degree of laryngitis now.

well babies MUST be tough, because the amount of force the woman was using was just increadible to me!.

I cant say id wont my LO stuck infront of the TV too much, and ive had words with DH about his games console too, and not to have it on when LO is around- i dont want him catching on to is and being glued to it in the future like some kids are.

 

[PeanutBean]

Well desperate times... I know we'll be watching lots of TV today as I'm incapable of doing anything with him but I'm trying to postpone it as long as possible.

 

[gilz82]

I'm the same Madcat couldn't believe she was leaning back to get traction and then yanking on the babies head. If i hadn't already decided i didn't want forceps, that would have done it for me last night.

I'm so jealous about your mw, i never see the same one, they don't phone me and in fact each time i see one i have to explain my whole horrible medical history again

Peanut i'm sorry you are feeling so rough

My work are doing my brain in. I'm lying here working on my laptop cos i can't sit up straight at my desk. Instead of getting thanks or praise for being a constructive member of staff i'm getting grief

 

[madcatwoman]

ha ha yeh, i thought, if that MW lets go of the forceps she'd go flying backwards and thru the wall!,just couldnt believe it. thats a no no, surely.

Gilz, its always the good employees who get the grief!!

 

[PeanutBean]

Just seen my HIP grant went in today. Hooray!

Just watched One Born. Not a great episode. Yet more pushing on her back instead of repositioning. I think with the forceps you should turn it round and think of the force that our uterus is able to produce to push the baby out. Women are amazing!

 

[gilz82]

I suppose that the only thing last night was that woman who had the forceps had an epidural so could she really have moved to any other position than on her back? I thought once you had an epidural you pretty much had to stay on your back.

 

[madcatwoman]

I suppose that the only thing last night was that woman who had the forceps had an epidural so could she really have moved to any other position than on her back? I thought once you had an epidural you pretty much had to stay on your back.

AH!!!...this is another thing i learnt at the hospital.

MW was showing us the positions the bed could move to, and said it was best to lean frontwards over the back of the bed,kneeling, she said to work with gravity, said "You would try doing a poo lying down would you?...same thing".
then she said about epidurals, and doing this position, so i piped up and said "I thought you couldnt move to another position with an epidural?", and she said "yes, of course you can, you might need a little help, but it can be done!".
im still a bit baffled,but thats what she said!.Im wondering if my hospital uses mobile epidurals, i have heard of them.

Glad you got your HIP grant thru peanut!


on a brighter note, heres the finished nursery.

 

[PeanutBean]

Well I didn't mean the forceps woman but the other one. The forceps woman had been advised she would only be allowed to push for 30 minutes (I won't go into forced pushing! ) so presumably that's why assitance was given. As to moving around with an epi it relly depends on how the epi works. If like me you are entirely paralysed then no there's no other position to be in. Ideally when an epi is given it is weaned off a bit towards pushing time to better enable the woman to feel the contractions and how to push and potentially to be able to move around more. But with an epi you are also on a drip and have a monitor strapped to your tum so it's still not very easy. Plus I don't get the impression that anything other than what happened to me usually happens - which is to put it in and leave the woman then turn round later and say right you're dilated, push with the bits of you you can't at all feel and bring those huge heavy dead legs up. Hopefully it isn't always the case...

 

[MADLYSBOYS]

Well I didnt get to watch OBEM nor am I likely to anytime soon because our TV refuses to work ..... we cannot afford to get another one AT ALL so I guess we will be like you pink no TV for any forseeable future, right now we cant even afford to replace our vacumn cleaner which blew up also last night

On a brighter note I am now officially no longer working and had the best nights sleep I have had in months...I woke up at 10.45am and feel really good!

 

[madcatwoman]

you sounds like you had a particually crap time with the epi. I guess everyone has a different story.

I dont really know what my pain threshold is, but im thinking, if the pool is available i'll try that, and i'll try the G&A, and see if i can go with that, and if i cant really hand that, then i might ask for the epi, think i'll try and be relatively openminded.

 

[madcatwoman]

Well I didnt get to watch OBEM nor am I likely to anytime soon because our TV refuses to work ..... we cannot afford to get another one AT ALL so I guess we will be like you pink no TV for any forseeable future, right now we cant even afford to replace our vacumn cleaner which blew up also last night

On a brighter note I am now officially no longer working and had the best nights sleep I have had in months...I woke up at 10.45am and feel really good!

ah thats good, that big dark cloud has been lifted from your shoulders. crap about the tv& vacumn though. you know what, my bro&SIL moved to a cottage with no ariel, and they havent watched tv since, its been two years since they moved and show no inclination to sorting the tv out!

 

[Ozzieshunni]

Booooo! I was outbid on the Timberland booties

On a much much happier note.....our one year wedding anniversary is today!!!!!!

 

[gilz82]

Good info Peanut and Madcat, i didn't have any idea that you could move postitions with an epidural

Madly glad you slept better, bummer about your tv and hoover, are either of them still under warranty hon?

Madcat your nursery is lovely only thing you are missing now is Baby B!

 

[MADLYSBOYS]

Sadly not Gilz I just hope everything sorts itself out because this isnt a good start

madcat hon am not sure with a 5yr old in the house we can avoid getting a TV for ever We do have an ancient portable in our bedroom which is never watched but isnt compatible with the leads etc downstairs (it really is that old!) and Oliver has his TV bought at xmas (remember the annoyance I had at this!) which may just have to end up coming downstairs shorterm which I not happy about at all

Happy Anniversary Ozzie hon

 

[madcatwoman]

Anyone read this birth story?
https://www.babyandbump.com/pregnan...elcome-jessica-lousie-naylor-born-37-6-a.html

its appalling that she was in so much pain and MWs telling her she wasnt in labour!

and on that account, im off to see my MW.

 

[vbaby3]

Hi ladies,
Peanut,sick again,can't believe everything you're catching.Your immune system must be completely shot.Take things easy and get better soon.Hope byron gives you a break!!xx
And I don't like mine in front of tv too much either,but god its been my saviour by times!!
In the summer they love playing out the back garden,but in winter there's only so much playing games and painting and drawing you can do,so dvd's are a life saver!!

Madcat,go with the flow with your labour,I had an epi with shay but I still pushed him out in 40 mins,unassisted.So keep an open mind but decide for yourself.You'll know how you feel at the time anyway.

That forceps yanking was pretty full on wasn't it??!!!!!
She was nearly being dragged off the bed!
I was holding my face in horror for that part.

Happy anniversary ozzie!!yous doing anything nice?
Went into town this morning and got some paint for my nursery,gonnna start painting nxt wk.Its the box room so pretty tiny and won't take long

 

[MADLYSBOYS]

Well Ladies I emailed my boss to tell him I wont be returning

I ran my email by the union first and they gave me go-ahead to send....I also sent them a copy too I dont expect to get a reply he hasnt replied to my email from yesterday yet Poor management at its best!

So am off to shower and do the school run now and will be back later

Have a good rest of day ladies!

 

[gilz82]

Anyone read this birth story?
https://www.babyandbump.com/pregnan...elcome-jessica-lousie-naylor-born-37-6-a.html


its appalling that she was in so much pain and MWs telling her she wasnt in labour!

and on that account, im off to see my MW.

Yeah i just read that Madcat, it just shows that we really do know our bodies the best! Hope the mw goes ok.

 

[PeanutBean]

Enjoy the mw madcat. Happy anniversary Ozzie! Hooray for leaving work madly! Still so jealous and my union rep hasn't replied when I forwarded the non-warning email work sent me about possibly having written something about someone on fb so still got all that hanging over me and not sure what to do next.

Vbaby it's true. Our garden is a dog-poo bog in winter so really not suitable for children until it dries out a bit. I'm not well enough to take him out anywhere else to play so he's a bit nuts from being indoors! We've only had one film though so that's something. He's playing in his room now while I sit on his bed wondering if he might at any point wear himself out enough to have a sleep! I'm about ready for one now...

 

[Ozzieshunni]

Happy anniversary ozzie!!yous doing anything nice?

Hee hee, I'm taking him into town for a real nappy demo and then we are going to lunch. His birthday is on the 11th so we were going to go for a nice meal this Friday. I think when we get back we'll be starting on the little guy's room!