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[PeanutBean]

I didn't have these problems with Byron but there seems to be a different system now. There was no postnatal check last time. My actual doctor is very good otherwise I'd change as the partner is crap and the admin seems to be broken at the moment.

Sorry Bailey took it so badly. I hope he is quickly over the jabs.

It's WHO guidelines that recommend 6 months regardless of what individual countries might recommend. Basically the digestive system of the average baby will not be sufficiently developed to digest food until then and food taken in too early I think is linked with other potential digestive issues in later life. As with everything this is average. It could be a prem baby might be more likely to wean later for example. We started o food a week or so before 6 months with Byron and it was ages before he digested anything regardless of whether he ate it or not. As with all these things you can't go far wrong by knowing your baby and recognising changes in them that show they are getting ready for food be it before on or after 6 months. If you try early there are some goods that are more likely to cause an adverse reaction before 6 months, such as strawberries, so it's worth checking with the hv or whoever. To be honest food is such a faff I'd leave it as long as possible!

God the house is full of smoke and I can't even see any outside. My eyes and nose are stinging and my head is killing me from it. I just so hate living here. . Dread to think what it's doing to the kiddies.

 

[madcatwoman]

bloody neighbours, they wait until your washing is out & your windows are open! come live here peanut!!, actually you'd probably be worse off because you wouldnt find a job here!!

about the weening, now this is probably a daft question, but what are the signs that your baby is gearing up to try foods??

 

[Ozzieshunni]

I don't know what to do with my emotions. I honestly just feel like a milk machine right now and it's getting really hard to feel anything towards Alex. I think I'm still worried something will happen and I don't want to feel that kind of pain I see DH with him and I want to feel all those feelings naturally instead of trying to force them. Why me?

 

[PeanutBean]

Ozzie it can be easy for men, they don't have all the guilt and the sacrifice that we have. It can be hard too as they don't get the positive hormones and bonding time. It so complicated being a mum and I don't think the ups and downs really go away, just change in form as the baby grows. It's really best IMO to try to not analyse and over think it all. Accept how you feel right now. It's not necessarily a mad rush of love and maternal emotion. It can take a while to adjust. I think the hv makes a lot of sense that you might be consciously distancing yourself. It's a natural thing to do as the loss of a baby is a mum's worst fear. I think relaxing as much as you can you will find it all settles down in time. Even normal baby blues will be wreaking havoc for you still.

Madcat weaning signs are being able to sit independently, able yo hold things and put them in their mouth, more waking at night and not getting satiated with feeds. There might be more I forget, but you'll see a change in your own baby. Best to wait a little in case it's just a growth spurt but if those changes continue you'll know the baby is ready. I recall watching us eat is supposed to be a sign but in my experience babies to that almost from the outset of life!

 

[molly85]

amweirdly looking forward to weaning.

Madcat i was laughing at your milkway earlier not Bailey.

Abby is booked in on the 7th for 8 week check and jabs they sent me a letter.

Got abby weighed today my tiny 5lb10z baby is now 7lb 5 1/2 oz a 14 &1/2 oz gain in 5 days she should have stretch marks

 

[Ozzieshunni]

Thanks PB! As always, you make so much sense

Alex is also spitting up what looks like curdled milk? It's not a full feed, but I think it's cause sometimes he gets himself all worked up. Anyone else experienced this?

Oh, he and I just had a bath together and Alex didn't cry like he did with DH He was very mellow and liked the water

 

[NOMORENUMBERS]

aw ozzie do not feel bad honestly i know a lot of women who say they got that as soon as i saw him i felt the love but i will be completely honest i was not one of them. i was 21 when i got pregnant and the whole way through my pregnancy i was like i cant believe this is my life and one minute it was a positive thought and the next it was a negative thought, i mean i felt grown up and mature at 21 but looking back just because i wasnt going out getting drunk and generallly being irresponsible didnt mean i was emotionally ready to have a child. when he was born i just stared at him, he was only with me for about a minute before they whisked him away but honestly i was just looking at him taking it all in and well i dont know what i was really thinking, i didnt feel empty or nothing but i did not feel that huge overwhelming love that everyone talks about, i was more like ah so you are leo i am mummy this is daddy type of meeting lol. it honestly wasnt until i was told that he was seriously ill and that i faced a life without him that i realised that he was not allowed to leave me, i hadnt got to know him yet or even see his eyes open or whether he had blonde or dark hair and all those other things. i knew in thaat moment that i couldnt live without him, i still wouldnt say i felt a huge wave of love but i was so desperate to get to that point and knew i wanted to get there

i didnt get the wave of love until 5 days later when he first woke up and he looked into my eyes for the first time.

what i am trying to say is that what you are going through is normal hun, you are incredibly tired, have all those raging hormones! plus you have all that pent up stress that all along you were told that your baby might be incredibly ill and when that didnt materialise as badly as you were expecting it you have all these emotions that you were feeling all of a sudden swept under the carpet without working through them. with me the closure came when we took him home because each day he was getting steadily better as did our emotions, but you hun went from one extreme to having your baby home much quicker than i think you thought and the left over emotions from the time before is just manifesting itself into you worrying something will still happen

i hope i am making sense? have you talked to your oh about it all? sometimes just talking about how hard things are for you emotionally and talking through everything can just really help! xkx

 

[Ozzieshunni]

Thanks nomore. I've talked with DH about it a lot. I think it's a bit hard for him to understand at times.

 

[molly85]

it's only just dawning on me how much ilove Abby. for example she did her first proper cheesey grin at me today and matt was desperatly trying as well and she refused. its me she loves the most and thats brilliant. you'll find that though your the milk machine in a few week no one will settle him like you then you will feel better

 

[gilz82]

Ozzie I can only echo what the others have said so I won't write it again

Madcat weaning from what I can make is very subjective from baby to baby at the end of the day guidelines are just that. I understand what the reasoning against early weaning is, I'm not advocating it or anything but I think you'll know when Bailey is ready and if that's earlier than 6 months so be it.

We've been told by our consultant that if Noahs reflux doesn't improve and only continues to be medication managed as he's in the severe reflux category they'd actively encourage early weaning around 4 months but we'd get dietician consultation on that. The problem is for Noah he seems to be following his corrected age developmentally so by 4 months actual I don't know if he'll be able to hold his head up properly or co-ordinate his hands enough yet so we could end up being pushed back to the almost 6 month mark anyway.

 

[NOMORENUMBERS]

ha you should of seen the look on my dh's face when i said to him i am not sure i love him yet "what how can you not!" erm ok not what i wanted to hear lol it is true that men just dont understand how complicated mummy emotions are because we are not just dealing with pop heres the baby like they are they do not have hormones controlling everything you do and feel. i found that just talking at him helped lol poor dh probably thought i was mad as a hatter lol nevermind! lol

you will get there hun xkx

 

[molly85]

i said to matt i thought we had made a mistake several times.

 

[PeanutBean]

In situations like this I always think of Jane Austen. At the end of Pride & Prejudice when Lizzie and Darcy are engaged at last she writes that Lozzie rather knew than felt herself o be happy. I think having a baby is often like that. I know I'm happy to have a new baby, that she has safely arrived and is healthy, that i'm no longer suffering pregnancy etc but feeling it to be so has sure taken me a while for both babies. The early caring for a newborn, especially a first child, is 24/7 learning and is just bloody hard no matter how maternal or experienced you are. Add to that the physical healing, the hormonal turbulence, the emotional turmoil, it's no wonder we mums get our knickers in a twist! I think once they start smiling and you have that real connection, a real understanding of one another, it gives a huge leap in the bonding process.

Well I'm getting a migraine from the neighbour's smoke. Feel a bit like he'll really. Byron had the most incredible fit at bathtime. At least half an hour of seriously mad screaming, hysterics really, followed by a good half hour trying to calm him and him then swinging from manic playing to hysterical crying again. Pretty weird and concerning really!

 

[MADLYSBOYS]

:wave: Ladies just catching up I have had a nightmare day

Gilz I understand how you feel about your OH working away DH is only away for three days and I cant stand it so in my eyes your a super mummy managing mostly on your own and poor little Noah and his sore willy

Wow Peanut busy lady and poor Indigo sounds like one of Charlies episodes glad it was over reasonably quickly for you and your bloody neighbours

Ozzie for a crap night but sounds like you had a productive appointment

for little Bailey nasty jabs but very nessecary poor mite we are having our next week

I had a 6wks check and Charlie`s is at 8 week when he has his jabs too sounds like your system Gilz

Ozzie .... I have detachment feelings about Charlie on our bad days, like today but I know deep down I`m glad hes here .... your not alone

for weight gain abby

Ladies I have tried to catch up as much as possible apologises for anything I have missed

 

[loopylollipop]

Oh PB big hugs over smoke, naughty neighbours, screaming Byrons and dysfunctional receptionists

Ozzie -ditto to advice from other ladies. Its tough, and I do think we over analyze these things. If we dont feel we fit the 'norm', we worry terribly.

afm I have just felt like a total milk machine and am fed up. Dyl is still feeding constantly, feeds last hours. For the last week or so I have given the odd ff. I couldnt cope with expressing. He was either feeding, or I was expressing. Everything was boob related and I got so fed up. So he is having the odd ff and he has gained 1lb in 10d. He is now 6lb 3oz.

Congrats Molly on the superb weight gain

Madly - well done you for not being fobbed off. It takes alot to battle two consultants. I have never dared!! Fingers crossed it works for you.

Was in Leeds today on a bf support afternoon. One of the nct girls feels awkward feeding in public so we all went for a Of course there was only my LO who wanting feeding whilst there (surprise surprise) and the other slept through! Anyway, was an outing for the wrap and is working well He loves it.

Well it appears to be LOOPY VS 7Wk OLD.

This battle has been going on since eight thirty. He is winning

And my bags are bigger than his

 

[MADLYSBOYS]

As for us a very bad day which just got worse and worse full story (very long in my journal!) but in short about Charlie ......

Well Charlie wouldnt take the milk too well and although we had a reasonable night this morning the screaming and frustration over refusing to feed continued for him I rang paediatrics who told me I had to wait until Tuesday to even speak with a Dr so out of desparation I call our Drs surgery and managed to get an appointment with our fantastic senior Dr who has prescribed Charlie gaviscon infant hes told me to hold on to the nutrimigen but go back to giving him cow and gate with the gaviscon in it until LI is def confirmed .... I got a poop sample this eve so will drop into my surgery tomorrow for it to be lab tested Charlie has had 3 bottles of cow and gate with gaviscon in it and I say tentively it seems to be working The Dr thinks he has colic combined with silent reflux which is why he cries practically all day cause one or the other is bothering him I am trying out his theory cause I have nothing to loose and we are running out of options now! I also went to Asda today and have bought a tin of cow and gate comfort milk for reflux and colic babies which also has less lactose in than normal formulas ..... this is my back up plan

 

[sequeena]

Your babies are all growing up so fast!

 

[molly85]

come on charlie eat little one for you and mummy.

abby hasjust ried her first bottle of sma hungry baby she glugged downj 2 ozs worth then tried another half oz after her bath no chanse of instant sedative.

To go with loopys bfing party abby got all screamy when out so dead smack in the middle of the shopping centre i whipped a boob out and she had a quick feed

 

[tas1]

Morning all

Hope all is well!

Ozzie I totally agree with everyone else dont be so hard on yourself,all the feelings are in there but your just scared at the minute! Glad Alex is feeding so well!

Madly I really hope things settled down for charlie bless him! And for you too! What is happening today? When will you get the results back from the poo sample?

Gilz hope Noah is ok too! Caleb is same age ish and I can't see him being weaned at 4months it's only a month away,he can hold his head but not for long. But then i weaned caden at 10wks and he is ok he couldn't sit up fully just his head so strong! Have they got anything for him to try? Did they say you'll have to wait til he is 6months to wean?

Madcat hope Bailey is ok now

I made caleb laugh last night it was only a little laugh but I did it
I'm trying him with 8oz on every feed now he's been finishing 7 off then chewing his hands!

Looks like a nice day again here not sure what we are doing yet! What's everyone else doing?

Xx

 

[gilz82]

No Tas the paediatrician has said the opposite he says Noahs reflux is so sever they'd want us to start weaning at 4 months. The problem is I don't think Noah will have either the neck strength or hand eye co-ordination needed for that at four months as he's developing more inline with his corrected age so six weeks behind his actual age.