Mother of all conception months Graduates

[molly85]

can i have icecream for breaky?
zoo sounds good, marwell is our closest or chessington

 

[tas1]

Oh no now I'm a bad mummy coz caden will eat chocolate spread out of the jar for his breakfast,he doesn't like cereal as he doesnt like milk so I use to give it to him on toast and he would just lick it off but I do make him have a cereal bar or toast afterwards or he will have bacon and jam or custard (to get his milk in take) but if I force him to eat something he will refuse so I think it's better than nothing plus nutella says it's good for you as it releases energy abit each hr but I guess it's only effective with toast! But honestly my son is picky although he is getting better,when I was weaning him I use to dip his spoonful of veg in his yoghurt so he would eat veg! So I'm a bad mummy.........oops

 

[molly85]

tas you naughty girls and grosssss

 

[PeanutBean]

Nutella would say that! It's 50% fat.

Morning all. I'm knackered.

 

[madcatwoman]

Morning!.
tired from the zoo peanut or a bad night?
My night was good, his last feed was at 9pm, the next not till 4,45am

OK, bit of a debate. Bailey was getting colic in the evenings, after trying everything we found that having him over our shoulder stopped it!!. Now, in the evenings he gets general misseries till about 9pm and the only thing that makes him happy is us walking round with him over our should(pretty sure its not colic anymore).
ANYWAY, DH is in the pub last night and his mate says his son had them doing the same, walking round all evening with baby over shoulder which stopped him crying, and also said another mate is having to do the same. Aparently one of these mates left their baby cry it out in the end, and stopped walking round all evening with baby over shoulder, in the end baby learnt that every time he cried he wouldnt be picked up and walked around with.

SO,Does anyone else baby do this?, and would you leave them cry it out till they learn(id feel so cruel though!)

 

[tas1]

Lol true! I'm hoping caden will start eating breakfast when starts school! Just not sure how to get him to like cereal and milk

Xx

 

[PeanutBean]

Madcat you'll find rows aplenty in baby club about CIO. It's definitely not recommended in little babies as crying raises their body temp which has be shown to affect brain development. That said sometimes they are inconsolable and sometimes a patent is likely to hurt them if it all gets too much and the parent needs to leave them to get some space. As with everything you need to find what works for you and the baby. Byron has never cried it out in his life. He simply never stops. Indigo does see more amenable to it but her temper means she is less demanding generally. I personally like the cuddles except if it has been really intense screaming for a long time with nothing settling. As it happens she is screaming blue murder right now and nothing I've beendoing has helped so I've popped her on the bed by my side to see if she'll calm down as sometimes she does.

Well since my first post we've had a sad time. There's something wrong with our dog. My dad saw she has an abcess on her gum and DH was going to take her to the vet next week for antibiotics but this morning something has happened. She was all drooly and threw up all her tea undigested. He rear end is collapsing. I feared a small stroke but it's not one-sided so I don't know. Taking her to the vet is a few mins with a pissed off toddler and inconsolable baby. Not happy.

 

[tas1]

Madcat I never feel him crying because they dont understand yet and will just get scared. I think one day they won't want cuddles or me so if I get maybe 3yrs of cuddling them then why not! Caden likes me still in his bed while he sleeps and I love it.
Bailey may like the attention or he may just like looking around or on the move!

Xx

 

[tas1]

Oh no peanut I hope your dog gets better xx

 

[molly85]

pb saw this on facebook, if she has an abcess could be septacemia hope you gether there in time and is an easy fix theyare family members so sad when ill.

cat i walk away occasionally but she doesn't stop. abby was like this for ages turned out she was hungry but when shes over tierd she gets fussy and likes the over the shoulder with a patted bum in a heart beat rhythum thump thumpsettles her dead quick without the walking. i believe you also have a rocker sit in that and doit save your legs. I always let abby have a little scream after her bath just to burn off some energy then she has a nice feed, then i forget to put her to bed lol and cuddle her sleeping lol

 

[madcatwoman]

thankyou...i dont feel comfortable leaving him crying to be honest, its the type of crying that as soon as hes on our shouler & walking or rocking hes happy as larry again!

 

[PeanutBean]

Molly you scaremonger! lol

She is ok. Vet thinks inner ear infection hence the wobbling around as her balance is affected. She's had an antibiotic shot and got some oral to take for a few days. He thinks we should see an improvement in a day or two. She's been ok in herself, you know waggy and friendly but she doesn't want to eat still so I think the ear stuff is still making her nauseous. He checked the lump as says it's not an abscess but a growth that he thinks will need removing at some point. Well I'll only do that if it gets huge and really bothers her. She has always had lumps and we've only ever had one removed because it was huge and perpetually infected. It's just her nature and they have all shown to be benign so if it's not bothering her I'm not risking a general as she is getting on a bit now.

Man and the children this morning! Byron was absolutely insane because I asked him to go on the potty before we had to go. Indigo has been inconsolable all day until about 15 mins ago. (I am currently steering clear of her line of sight in case the sight of me sets her off again!) Byron was like a wild animal screaming and vomiting up the snot he was swallowing. God it was awful and I was well stressed trying to get out the house with everyone. This is exactly why we were waiting til next week for DH to be able to take her.

 

[madcatwoman]

I just told DH about him being left to cry, about the body temp etc, he just roled his eyes as if to say thats a load of tosh. The thing is, it IS consoleable crying, as soon as he's picked up and walked around hes happy, then by 9 he settles. I get a bad back from carrying him around for a while but id prefer that to leaving him to cry. Dh wants to do the same as his mate and leave him to cry, but being as i do 80% of Baileys care i think im going to have to carry on as we are.

Peanut i hope your doggies ear is better soon, least its not a stroke or anything nasty!!

 

[PeanutBean]

Madcat ask your DH where his evidence is that it's a load of tosh. Research shows that prolonged crying raises a baby's body temperature. Research shows that a raised temperature can affect the development of the brain. As far as I know there isn't research that shows that prolonged crying can affect the development of the brain however it isn't a great leap to put the two together and consider that prolonged crying might be a risk. I think where it is the lesser of two evils in that the crying is so continuous (and I mean over days, weeks) that parents are really struggling to cope then leaving them to cry might be for the best on some occasions though ideally parents should be getting support from the various charities and health networks to work out the reason for such excessive crying.

For me I would very much err on the side of caution. Besides all of which it is unbearable to hear a baby really in distress.

To be totally honest I do find it odd when parents seem to want to do everything they can to be distant from their baby. I don't mean everyone should cosleep and babywear 24/7 or whatever, it's most important that families do what works best for them, but it sometimes seems to be a mission to get the baby as self-sufficient as possible as quickly as possible. I don't understand why they aren't relishing in the cuddles even if it is hard work. It'll not be long before that baby is a grotty teen who doesn't want to be anywhere near the parents and soon after will leave home.

 

[Ozzieshunni]

I think I'm getting sick I lost my voice this morning. Last night was pretty hellish. Alex's area around his anus is bright red We've been using sudocrem. I think it was the wipes he had a reaction to so we've switched them to see if it makes a difference. If not, it's off to the GP on Monday cause I think he's in pain when he poos I put him in bed with me and DH last night just to get some sleep and he seemed to be comforted by that. Gotta feed him now. He's trying to eat DH's arm, lol!

 

[PeanutBean]

Ozzie try metanium if sudacrem isn't cutting it, it's a super cream for the worst rashes.

 

[madcatwoman]

OH no ozzie,

Peanut, youre right, i dont know what it is with men who want the baby out of their room asap, leaving them to cry. he was happy consoling him until he went to the pub and his mate said they left their baby to cry. Maybe we're just soft, i dont know it does dissapoint me though.

 

[tas1]

I agree with peanut! You said what I always say! Cat do what you feel is best and don't be influenced by other people

Xx

 

[madcatwoman]

I know men&women are programmed differently, but unless i thought i was going to harm him in some way, or felt cuddles were making no difference, then i just couldnt just leave him cry it out, as peanut said, i cant just leave a baby indistress.

DH has always been easily influenced though. last pub visit he came home saying his mate put their baby in the nursery at 3 weeks and why couldnt we do the same. Im quite subborn though!

I asked him if Baileys crying (which isnt alot) is getting too much for him and he said "no not really, i just ignore it", well that wasnt the answer i was looking for either".

 

[Ozzieshunni]

Mine was saying it better not become a trend of Alex sleeping in bed with us. I had the best sleep with him there and his breathing was leveled out and not so gaspy.