Nationalized health insurance

[DukesAngel]

I think a large part of why so many people are up in arms about Nationalized Health Care is the price vs. coverage. This is my largest issue.

Every pay period I have money taken out of my check for Medicaid/Medicare and Social Security. I do not qualify for Medicaid/Medicare, but I have to pay into it. I have had my own private policy for health insurance that is a high deductible policy. Before Obama decided that we need something more substantial as a country, my premiums for my husband and I were 125 a month. Last year? It jumped to 175 a month. Why? Because of Obamacare. Even got a letter from the health insurance stating it. Did I get any greater coverage out of this? No. I just got 50 dollars more a month in premiums.

America is a totally different country than many others, in that for the most part as long as we've been a nation we have been taught that independence from aid and government intervention is what will get us ahead. Right now you have somebody in office that believes that he needs to change it, fine, but America is broke. The only thing you are doing is putting us further into the rut that we're in. The Americans who still stand for what the country was founded on are the ones that are so upset about what is going on right now. (myself included)

It's hard to compare a nation that provides health care to their people to one that has never provided it. The mindset is beyond different. Sure, if the money taken out of my check every month had me qualify for a program, I'd be happy, but I don't qualify. But at the moment I can walk into the west end of my city, the south end, or any of the other poor areas and see people abusing the heck out of a system that I believe needs to be restructured. Right now I'm paying for people to nothing and then have to listen to them complain about doing nothing. There are actually people with "welfare babies"; those who pop out kid after kid to get money from the government.

I could go on and on, but this health care issue is MUCH deeper than just health care.

 

[deafgal]

I think Obamacare was originally suppose to be national healthcare, but Obama had to compromise those who disagree with national healthcare. It was private insurances who claimed if everyone was on insurance, cost and coverage would improve (and now, people like DukeAngels, getting letters blaming on obamacare)

I don't blame Gov't for passing the law about insurances because Doctors require by law to treat people rather they have the ability to pay or not. They need to make sure they have the money for services and supplies.

 

[petitpas]

The way I see it, the US can't just get rid of everything private and make it national. Make all insurance companies go bust and buy up the hospitals? The idea is ridiculous. That's why they can't have a national health service like in Canada or the UK.
That's not to say that what Obama is doing won't work. Germany, for instance, works by everyone having health insurance with private companies, just like in the US. Those below a certain income threshold have their health insurance (still with a private insurance company) paid for by the government.
The government regulates the industry by setting the premium levels at a percentage of salary. So previous history or age do not come into consideration and with a cap on their income insurance companies need to search for deals to bring their costs down.
I don't suppose you've ever heard of a German being worried about being denied treatment?

I am not familiar with the exact plans Obama is making and how they are going to pan out but I think that if he was my president I would be proud that he is fighting to better life for his people. Clearly at the cost of his job. He is a very brave man!

I have never been able to understand how 40m people in what is thought to be a modern and progressive country could be without access to medical care.
Many of my US friends have been without insurance due to redundancy, being students and being self-employed and they are all hard working deserving people.

Sorry, that's my opinion. It's not my country to vote in or decide on. I just think that it in principal it's medieval to let people suffer when they could be helped.