O Rhesus Negative & Group B Strep

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I am both of these... had my anti d injection friday just gone... so proud of myself as i am petrified of needles :D

but i am also group b strep.. and i am meant to be put on a drip while in labour.. but have strongly gone against this cos of my fear of having needles in me..

they said in that case baby will need antibiotics when born..
but i still i cannot have the water birth i wanted...:cry:

anyone else exsperiance these problems?
 
I've had strep B, its important that you have the anti-biotics in labour for your baby's health....ask them to put some numing cream on before hand :hugs: xxxxx
 
I've had strep B, its important that you have the anti-biotics in labour for your baby's health....ask them to put some numing cream on before hand :hugs: xxxxx

I am sorry, but i wont be having it at all.. my fear is actually having the needle kept in me.. its traumatic enough for me having blood tests done, and the thought of one having to be in all the way through my labour petrifies me, and if they tell me i have to whether i like it or not, i will turn around and go home and have my baby there.

My fear is something ive been getting therapy for.. its because of a really bad past and i cant switch it off :/
 
Phobias can be absolutely debilitating hun, and I know how easy it is for us to say have it, but you to be terrified at the very thought of it. I just feel sorry that you have to live with it, and I'm guessing it probably dominates many aspects of your life? I hope therapy starts to help you soon.

I am rhesus negative, and never had a problem because of it in 3 pregnancies. They do routinely give the anti-d after any bleeds, again at 28wks and after delivery of bubs, if he/she is rhesus positive that is.

If it reassures you at all, I thought the anti-d injection was far more uncomfortable than any canulars (needle in vein) I've ever had, and I've had lots due to 3 pregnancies, 4 spinals and 2 epidurals :rofl: - I never do things easy ;) Often the thought of something is far worse than actually having it done my sweet.

xxx
 
I've had strep B, its important that you have the anti-biotics in labour for your baby's health....ask them to put some numing cream on before hand :hugs: xxxxx

Loraloo - just noticed your beautiful little angel :cry::cry::cry: How tragic for you hun, and how my heart goes out to you for your loss :hugs::hugs::hugs:

Sorry, heart aches for any Mum who has gone thru this :nope::hugs:
 
Its always easier for people who dont suffer with a phobia to say just get on with it wtc.. but for me its a serious no go zone.. my parents have opted out coming with me to the birth because they know how histerical i can get at the thought of a needle being anywhere near me, so my hubby has to be the one to be there for me :/

i just hope everything goes okay and they accept the fact i am not able to have the drip without the threat of seriously upsetting me and making me leave :/
 
Is it the actual needle, or the thought of anything in your arm? The antibiotics only take minutes to go in (i think about 5), they then remove that and just keep a tiny plastic tube in. If you can't go through with it, don't worry- antibiotics to the baby will do the trick, and hopefully the results will come back Negative :thumbup: xxx
 
I've had strep B, its important that you have the anti-biotics in labour for your baby's health....ask them to put some numing cream on before hand :hugs: xxxxx

Loraloo - just noticed your beautiful little angel :cry::cry::cry: How tragic for you hun, and how my heart goes out to you for your loss :hugs::hugs::hugs:

Sorry, heart aches for any Mum who has gone thru this :nope::hugs:

Thank you hun xxx
 
have a chat with them hun, they can take the cannula out of you as soon as the antibiotic is through.
Your little on will have to have one if you dont, and it wont just be one dose. LO will have to have bloods taken at the same time as having a cannula put in, then have usually 2 doses a day for a few days.
Sorry you are going through this, its a really difficult decision for you to make. Dont let anyone push you into a decision, but try to come at it with an open mind. It may be far less stressful for you to decide to have it yourself than for them to pressure you into you having it. You did really well to have your anti-D, and I bet you felt really proud of yourself afterwards. Maybe you will be the same after your antibiotic?
big hugs xxx
 
I've had strep B, its important that you have the anti-biotics in labour for your baby's health....ask them to put some numing cream on before hand :hugs: xxxxx

Loraloo - just noticed your beautiful little angel :cry::cry::cry: How tragic for you hun, and how my heart goes out to you for your loss :hugs::hugs::hugs:

Sorry, heart aches for any Mum who has gone thru this :nope::hugs:

Thank you hun xxx

have a chat with them hun, they can take the cannula out of you as soon as the antibiotic is through.
Your little on will have to have one if you dont, and it wont just be one dose. LO will have to have bloods taken at the same time as having a cannula put in, then have usually 2 doses a day for a few days.
Sorry you are going through this, its a really difficult decision for you to make. Dont let anyone push you into a decision, but try to come at it with an open mind. It may be far less stressful for you to decide to have it yourself than for them to pressure you into you having it. You did really well to have your anti-D, and I bet you felt really proud of yourself afterwards. Maybe you will be the same after your antibiotic?
big hugs xxx

The thought of and having a needle kept in my arm where i can see it terrifys me. even having the little piece of plastic still in my arm scares me so much i get the shakes.

i would consider it if it was one round of antibiotics, then the removal of the thing all together, if they could do that then that would be a possability, but having it kept in my arm throughout labour, would honestly ruin the special day for me.. id be tearful, stressed, and begging them to take it out of me, and i dont want the birth to be a thing to forget, i want to remember it.

as for my anti d, it took 3 weeks for me to pick up the courage to go get it done.. i perposely missed the first 3 appointments i was that terrified. in the end, my other half to the week off to syke me up for it, then when we went it was a case of having to hold my arm out and do it before i even realised. he still had to hold me tight so i didnt wriggle around and struggle to get away. then afterwards it was a 15min sit on the ward to make sure i got through the panic attack but i was proud that i did it. even if i did have the cream and still felt the slight burn.

its getting me tearful just thinking about having a drip. it brings up some very scary alfull memories that ive tried so hard to forget.:cry::cry::cry:
 
do you think that during labour the giving birth would distract you from the cannula in your hand? I totally appreciate that its really hard for you, have a think about it and try not to rule it out just yet! How far have you got left to go? xxx
 
do you think that during labour the giving birth would distract you from the cannula in your hand? I totally appreciate that its really hard for you, have a think about it and try not to rule it out just yet! How far have you got left to go? xxx

just under 10 weeks to go.. my therapist doesnt think i am ready to be put through having the needle in me yet or the plastic tube.. she thinks that its gunna ruin my birth and i wont want to remember it :/ and i know what i can be like, i dont want it to be traumatic.. i want to enjoy it x
 
The cannula isn't actually a needle, they use a needle to insert the cannula and the bit that's left in you is a tiny little bendy plastic tube. The needle gets pulled out as soon as it's in place.

Hope this helps :flower:
 
i had both with my 1st pregancy too hun, just waiting to find out if i have strep b this time.

i dont even remember having the antibiotics, was the least of my worries compared to the pain of birth
 
:hugs: it must be really hard to be pregnant and have a fear of needles. I hope you can still make this an enjoyable experience despite it all.

Anyways, why exactly won't they allow you a waterbirth now? It seems quite strange if they won't allow it due to GBS as there have been studies which have actually shown that giving birth in water actually reduced the incidence of babies being exposed and or being ill with GBS in mothers who tested postive. So giving birth in water is actually protective to the baby!

Have you actually considered a homebirth (with a midwife present). Giving birth at home may provide more of the environment you are looking for as opposed to going to the sterile medical environment of a hospital. I'm not sure of the policies where you are but here GBS or being rh negative is not a contraindication to homebirth and you can still have your babies at home if you want to. In fact they can adminster the antibiotics at home as well here and perhaps being at home in your own "safe" environment could help some of the anxiety with the IV insertion??? :shrug: Just a thought!

Other alternatives include having them insert the IV just long enough for them to run the antibiotics (which generally takes 20 minutes) but then remove it until the next dose is needed. Generally women find the insertion process the most difficult to deal with (which is why it's just inserted once and left in) BUT if you would find it more barable and preferable to have a couple of jabs instead of keeping the canula in then there's absolutely no reason not to do that. With Penicillin (the preferred antibiotic) or Ampicillin it is given every 4 hours. But again there are alternatives which are generally reserved for women with allergies to ampicillin that can be used as well. There's erythromycin (which is administered every 6 hours) and clindamycin (which is administered every 8 hours). With erythromycin and clindamycin there is an increased chance that the type of GBS won't be sensitive or killed by it so it's good to know what medications your GBS is sensitive too before using a medication other then Penicillin.

Also of note, there are many women who do bypass GBS prophylaxis altogether... often for reasons regarding the use of antibiotics themselves..... but not EVERYONE does it... Some women opt to use the risk factor approach in that they will only agree to in labour antibiotics if they develop risk factors that put their babies further at risk of developing eg a fever in labour, prolonged rupture of the membranes, fetal tachycardia (a really high heart rate etc) and other women refuse antibiotics altogether and some even refuse to be screened for it.

There's also numerous natural remedies you can do which can help your body rid itself of GBS including taking acidophilus capsules (the refrigerated kind daily) as well as using garlic (insert a peeled clove into the vagina (sew a string to it so it's not difficult to remove) and keep in inside for an hour or two a day. The acidophilus is a probiotic which encourages the growth of "good" bacteria in the vagina which in turn kills out the bad stuff (like GBS). Yogurt also has probiotics but you would have to eat liters of the plain unsweetened stuff everyday in order to have the same effects as two capsules of acidophilus. And garlic acts as an anti-fungal/anti-bacterial. Another "natural" thing that is protective against baby developing GBS as mentioned above is water birth.

Also of note, just because you have declined GBS prophylaxis for yourself does not mean that you have to agree to your baby getting it. Here, it's recommended that if a woman does not have the antibiotic prophylaxis that the baby is to be monitored for 48 hours for GBS symptoms and only if symptoms present would they start antibiotics. This generally means staying in the hospital (both you and baby for two days... NOT in the nicu btw) though you still have the option of signing yourself out and just bringing baby back if any concerns arise and it's really common sense things to look for eg temperature instability, abnormal breathing, cyanosis (turning blue), abnormal output (all things in my mind a parent is able to assess when known to look for it). Also, here if you have a midwife they will come to your home and do visits at 24 hours postpartum and sometimes on day 2 if needed and on day 3 and 5 and 7 and anytime inbetween if needed....

And in case your interested in the chances of a baby getting GBS it's 1/1000 if the mom DOES not receive GBS prophylaxis and it is reduced to 1/2000 if the mother does receive the antibiotics...... Just to put things in perspective.

Anyways, the point of all my blabbing is that there's not one concrete thing to do and there's different options available to you and only you can decide what's best for you in your situation.

I hope it all works out for you.
 
Well thats alot to take in :D

i am going to speak to my midwife again about it when i go to see her next week. i will make sure she doesnt try and go off subject either etc, as ive already been tranferred once due to midwifes not doing there job properly :/ (they litrelly jsut took my blood, measured bumpy, weight, heartbeat etc and then wrote in my notes and left me in silence then told me thats it you can go)

I will update you on what they have said and whats been decided. hopefully, i will get listened to, and not have to have a homebirth.. (i will be moving into a groundfloor flat shortly and dont want to be on the neighbours nerves if in labour all night lol)

x
 
hi ladies,

I'm also O RH neg and had anti D. Turns out my son is the same blood group, so I didn't need the injection aftert his birth.

I also had GBS. Rather than a needle, and since my waters broke but I was not contracting, I was sent home and had to take oral antibiotics every 3 hours.

I was later induced and any more that I needed were given to me via the IV.

So it's possible that you'll be able to avoid the needle??

Good luck,

Nicola xx
 
Googilybear- as others have said they do take the needle out immediately and leave only a little piece of plastic in you. With that being said.....think in advance.....would you rather have an IV for a few hours (terrifying I understand) OR have your newborn with an IV for a 5 days? Not trying to be an alarmist or negative but that is the reality of GBS. If your newborn gets it he/she will be on IV antibiotics for 5-7 days. Would you be able to hold your newborn seeing that IV going into him/her? Can you take one for the team??? I bet you are stronger than you give yourself credit for!:winkwink:
 
I am both of these... had my anti d injection friday just gone... so proud of myself as i am petrified of needles :D

but i am also group b strep.. and i am meant to be put on a drip while in labour.. but have strongly gone against this cos of my fear of having needles in me..

they said in that case baby will need antibiotics when born..
but i still i cannot have the water birth i wanted...:cry:

anyone else exsperiance these problems?

I am OR- and i also had GBS. Same as you i was/am terrified of needles.

It is essential that you get the anti d jabs AND have the IV in labour. Leni also had the antibiotics when he was born as routine.

All will be fine, but for the sake of you and your baby's wellbeing please try and forget about the needles (know it's hard!) and get all the recommended medicine.
 
Googilybear- as others have said they do take the needle out immediately and leave only a little piece of plastic in you. With that being said.....think in advance.....would you rather have an IV for a few hours (terrifying I understand) OR have your newborn with an IV for a 5 days? Not trying to be an alarmist or negative but that is the reality of GBS. If your newborn gets it he/she will be on IV antibiotics for 5-7 days. Would you be able to hold your newborn seeing that IV going into him/her? Can you take one for the team??? I bet you are stronger than you give yourself credit for!:winkwink:

I managed to have the jab okay, an di know its not the needles left in my arm, i know all of this.

Its really easy for all of you to say just get ot over and done with for your babies sake, and i would willingly do it for my baby, but i dont think you all understand the significance of my fear. Hypno theropy doesnt always work, emla cream wears off, and if my parents and partner have warned the Docs that a drip is a no go with me, then surely that says something yes?

I kinda feel as though you lot are bullying me by scaring me into it. but honestly, its something i phicically cannot do, without causing myself harm and others, and causing more mental harm to add to the other events that happend to me in my life to cause me to have such a fear.:cry:

You lot can get cross with me, do whatever you like. This is one thing i have to put my foot down on. My midwife understands, and so should you lot:cry::cry::cry::cry:
 

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