%% OLDIES But GOODIES %%

Sis - Hope you get so pain free peace soon :hugs: your pooch sounds lovely they are so in tune with us sometimes

Wish - Pants is used to mean rubbish here lol and I wish I could refrain from testing, I'm pants at that too :haha:

Monni - Your not out yet!! fingers crossed

Terri - MBA - Wow clever lady :thumbup: You made me laugh with the Hubby, men sometimes just don't get it:wacko:

Katie potatie - The E card had me :rofl:

Atty - Are you using the same tests?

Erose - Hows it going?

7DPO and tested BFN...I know, I know :blush: Think AF will show as usual between CD25/28 even though I ovulated late the signs are there :cry:

Hi to all the other Ladies
 
Oh sis am thinking of you and hoping it's over soon.x
Afm think first post mc af has started. Had bizarre brown/dark red spotting since mon night. Just want it to kick in and be a proper period so I know we're back on track.
Hi everyone. X
 
Sis - I'm glad you're getting the stronger pain meds. I had had a vicodin in the hospital and it was great. No pain, no loopiness. If I would've had more of those, I would've been happy. Hope DH can get the meds to you quick! Hope today is the worst of it. Glad you have your dogs to help you. Animals are the best with that stuff.

Terri - Congrats on the MBA. How exciting that you have less to do than you thought! That's the best! Sounds like DH needs a specific time frame for the SA. No, not next week. Schedule it today. Let's call together. :haha: What is it with men and medical stuff?

Wish - I know what you mean about being afraid to test. Wait a couple days if you want. Keep in mind a BFN at 9-10 DPO means nothing. Both of my pregnancies I got BFNs at 10DPO. Didn't get BFPs until 14DPO.

Atty - Your chart looks great.

Nessaw - Hooray for first AF!

Hi to all the rest!
 
Oldermom-So glad you have answers now. But I would be so depressed if I became gluten intolerant. I love love breads and baked goods. I bake a lot of bread. It helps me control my migraines.

Thanks! I am glad that I am not "that crazy person" any more trying to self-dx all of her problems (I think I annoyed a lot of people I know...).
I love baking, too- it relaxes me. I just have to bake with different items, now....


afm another day another test.....bfn, did an opk as well this morning.... that was faint only, but my temp went up again...yay! my af is due tomorrow probably....

Yay for the temp!!:happydance::happydance::happydance:

Oldermom - what a no-no list!! and no toothpaste? really? so because your gluten free your teeth have to fall out??:haha: say it isn't so...
I know it seems alot right now...but we all would do the diet too... stinking gluten!!! :hug:

AFM: 9 DPO... feeling ok/good... no obesssing over symptoms.... I don't have any... and to be totally honest...I'm scared to test... :nope: how pathetic is that...

I have to believe that most toothpastes don't have gluten in them- but I will surely look now!
Re your feeling scared: that isn't pathetic! That is a natural reaction to being let down in the past. Go easy on yourself, because this 'journey' can be pretty suckily hard. BTW, you have still got lots of time this cycle :ninja:

Was thinking of adding our :angel: to the front page so everyone knows what us oldies go thru let me know what ya think

I am glad you will be getting some stronger meds. :hugs: And I love the idea of an :angel: on the front page.

Oh sis am thinking of you and hoping it's over soon.x
Afm think first post mc af has started. Had bizarre brown/dark red spotting since mon night. Just want it to kick in and be a proper period so I know we're back on track.
Hi everyone. X

I hope you get some dark red blood soon, nessaw! :hugs::hugs: Waiting sucks!
 
Woo girls! I have a lot to go over (review) and then I can share.
The doctor was very nice (of course. they want my $$), as was the nurse and the financial lady.
The financial lady said that I am covered for 80% up to 25,000, and she gave me the costs of IUI and IVF and the other tests and such.

The doctor said that my charts really don't look bad. I printed all my FFoe charts and he said that the blood tests and vaginal ultrasound along with DH's sperm analysis will give more details, and Ffoe is a rough estimate of what's going on, but it is an old software program, and mostly just interesting to keep up with. He said if charting makes you happy, keep on it. :haha:

I am back at work for another half hour, so when I get home, I will explain the other stuff. They sure do know what they're doing at this place, and it seems to be a well-oiled machine.

And...hubs can do the SA at home (they gave me a cup and a bag as a present to him), and I can bring the sample in right before I go to work, so that's cool. He won't have to sit in a white bathroom with girlie mags and porn. :rofl: I mean, I don't care, but I want this to be easy on him.

Ok..more later!

Katie-Great ecard. I sent it to the women at my lunchtable.
nessaw-C'mon AF!!! You're getting close, babe.
 
I could write a book with all the stuff they told me, but I'll try to keep it as succinct as possible, and then if anyone wants to know more I'll explain.

We had to fill out all the preliminary paperwork-Insurance, medical history, any fertility stuff that we had performed prior to going in today. This shows how :wacko: my mom-in-law is. Hubs had no idea if he had been tested for stuff like measles, TB, tay-sachs, blood type and all sorts of stuff, so of course, I told him to call his mom. He called her and she said 'yeah, you had measles and mumps.' I heard him say 'ok' and then he checked yes in those boxes. I questioned it silently as I'm reading BnB :haha: He got off the line and was satisfied with his paperwork so he left the room. His mom called back immediately, and I answered the phone. She said 'My girlfriend is here, and said that he probably got the vaccines when he was little, so no, I don't think he had it. I think he got the vaccine.' I said 'ok.' When hubs came back in the room, I told him what his mom said and he was like 'Oh. Ok.' ARE YOU KIDDING ME? You seriously thought that a boy growing up in the US in the 1970s/80s had mumps and measles? *le sigh* Thank GOD her girlfriend was at the house. As you now know, his medical history is a bit of a mystery. We'll leave it at that. HA!!HA!! She also said that she THINKS SHE had some kind of rib cage infection (?) or something so he wrote that down. This is already a book. HA!!HA!! Anyway, whatever.

I met with the doctor, who was very nice. He wrote everything upside down so I could read the paper as he was writing. I thought that was pretty cool. He also explained how the chances of getting pregnant drop significantly after 35 (as we all know), and there are many people in my situation who have had good results. Initially, he asked me about medical history, drug usage, etc...looked at my charts, talked about any surgeries I had, looked at my charts, and reviewed my GYN records briefly. Then he told me how there are various processes we could go through depending on the three prescreening things that are in our future-vaginal ultrasound (checking for AMC (?) and my follicular reserve), sperm analysis and Day 2,3, or 4 blood work (estradiol, FSH, LH). They are going to check my hormones for FSH, LH, egg quality (AMH) and a host of other things. We will get tested for a genetic screening and STDs. If all of my genetic stuff is negative, we are ok. If I have any positives for the genetic stuff, they will then test husband for his genetics, and if there is another positive somewhere we may be in trouble. Let's assume all is well as far as genetics.

From there, they look at the results and then determine whether we are in the poor quality (immediately to IVF) or the ok category. My insurance will allow me to do IVF immediately because I will be 40 in two months. Otherwise, I have to do 3 IUIs first and if those don't work THEN I move on to IVF. Fine. IF none of that stuff works, then I would have 'unexplained fertility' and they try other things, like a different set of medicines, etc..

Based on ok results, we try ovulation induction and timed intercourse for IUI with associated medicine OR, because of my age, I could jump right to IVF. My call.

If things were bad, we go immediately to IVF and/or donor eggs, but I don't think things are that bad, so we didn't spend much time there. My insurance does not cover anything donated, unfortunately, so that would all be out of pocket. Booooooo...

The major issue at this point is age, and then the rest of the results are minor. He drew a bar graph at this point with a tall rectangle for age and short rectangles for the other stuff. ha! Jerk. HA!!HA!!

I asked him about my light 3-day periods and he said as long as I get my period, that's fine, and he said that progesterone would only help lengthen my LP, not increase my temperatures. That made me feel a little better.

I also asked how long people are patients of theirs and he said it all depends on doubt, money and success. He did give me a website to look at, www.sart.org, which has fertility success rates of all the fertility clinics in the US (I think it's US only) and apparently you can check by age/facility and see what kind of results they have. I haven't looked at it yet, but I will.

Then I met with the nurse (and the weekend nurse) who would be taking care of all my needs. She got to the nitty gritty telling me who to call when my period starts (if it starts, and call if it doesn't). I rolled my eyes at it not starting based on my stupid chart, then she gave me hubs' cup and told me that he can do the test, and I just have to keep the sample inside my shirt at room temperature while I drop off the sample. She also gave me some paperwork on keeping sex fun (UGH!), and to curtail smoking and drinking and get back to taking my prenatals. I'm having an off month after my depressing AF last month. So check! She told me some other random stuff, but I can't really tell from the paperwork in my folder. They told me that donor eggs are really super expensive, and that's why a lot of aged stars do that because they have the money to do it. It's about $14k for donor eggs/medicine. IVF is about $7k, and IUI is about $500-1000. I think I said before my insurance will cover 80% up to 25k, and the financial lady said that it will be a while before I reach that threshold, which is good to know.

First, we have to do the SA, and get our STD and genetic bloodwork, wait for AF, and proceed from there. So I'm guessing I won't really start anything until May, which is my bday month, so maybe by my bday we'll be prego. It's wishful thinking, but at this point, that's all I have.

I think that sums it up...all in all a good visit, and I'm ready to get started!
:crib: Here I come!
 
Sounds like u got A lot of info and are on the ROAD to a BFP!!!
 
Wow, Terri. They really seem to know their stuff. I'm sure it's reassuring to know you are working with a facility that has so much experience and different avenues to help you get your LO! That's great!
 
Okay - I'm here!!! Thank you Sis for inviting me. I missed you girls the last three months in 1st tri (which didn't end well :cry:). There were so many girls in there that I couldn't even keep track of everyone, and people were posting so fast the threads just disappeared!

Anyways, I'll try to catch up on everyone's story here. I read your post Terri - good luck at your new specialist! Sounds like they really know what they're doing there!

Talk later! :thumbup:
 
Wow, Terri- they gave you a pamphlet on good sex??? Really?!?:haha:
They don't need to be kept apprised of that progress, do they? You know this means that some people ask them how to have better sex. :dohh:

Welcome back, FutureMom! Your baby is ok, right? Sorry to be stupid, but I want to be sure not to say more stupid things later. :hugs:
 
Oldermom - no, baby is likely gone now, just haven't had the heart to remove my tickers yet. Anembryonic (empty sac) which I found out at 12 weeks (on Monday). :cry: Had lots of bleeding and huge clots yesterday, so I think it's gone now. Have to go to doctor to confirm. OH and I are sad but we had a really good talk tonight about how this changes our plans. We're gonna start trying again as soon as the doctor gives us the green light and at least we know that we CAN get preggers - hopefully the next one sticks!!!! :thumbup: OH has been super sweet about everything. :hugs: Thanks for asking about me - how are things with you?

Terri - you HAVE to give us some tips from the pamphlet! :haha:
 
Oldermom - no, baby is likely gone now, just haven't had the heart to remove my tickers yet. Anembryonic (empty sac) which I found out at 12 weeks (on Monday). :cry: Had lots of bleeding and huge clots yesterday, so I think it's gone now. Have to go to doctor to confirm. OH and I are sad but we had a really good talk tonight about how this changes our plans. We're gonna start trying again as soon as the doctor gives us the green light and at least we know that we CAN get preggers - hopefully the next one sticks!!!! :thumbup: OH has been super sweet about everything. :hugs: Thanks for asking about me - how are things with you?

I am soooooo sorry, FM. :hugs::hugs:
It is good you and OH are on the same page, that takes so much uncertainty away. :cry::hugs: We are here for anything you need.
 
Welcome Future Mom glad to have ya u kinda dissapeared when I made the group so I never got the chance to invite U but I'm glad I found ya! :hugs:

Again sorry for your loss I think it's worse when u thought u were in the clear then Bam I know that's how I felt!! :nope:

For some reason I just couldn't get past the idea that it was A Ok and get excited its like I knew it wasnt going to work out and when I started bleeding yesterday I actually felt better like it was a step forward as strange as that sounds!!
We are TTC again straight away since I didn't do the D&C I'm sure nothing will happen w out help but at least we will be moving on :thumbup:

It's pretty much our Oldie testing buddies in here but in here we can stick together thru it all!!! :)
 
Terri - I so wish my FS had been so informative, you may have to pay for your care but it sounds so worth it. Over here they just don't seem to care :wacko: well that was my experience anyway.
I see one of these :pink: or one of these:blue: or maybe one of these for you this year :oneofeach:

Futuremom - So sorry for your loss and welcome :hugs:

Well another BFN this morning booooo
 
Terri - Your FS sounds lovely - my first one was a right jerk (but was local) and the second one was a bit better (but far away) and the third referral I got (I never got to see as hubby refused his tests) so I agree with Felcity your FS is being very informative:happydance:

Future - Sorry about your loss hun - I had a blighted ovum was that the same as yours - just when you start to relax a bit and Bam! - so sorry you are not back here with good news:hugs:

Felcity - Me to I got a BFN:wacko:

Love to all the other ladies:hugs:

:hugs:

X
 
Wow, terri- sounds like you are in good hands with them!

Oldermum- glad you have some answers as well with medical issues!
 
FutureMom-So sorry again for your loss, but so glad you found us. We're all just plodding along with the day to day from bump and beyond! I'm happy to have you.

garfie/felcity-Like I said, it's a well-oiled machine. This company has locations all over the state and they have expanded to Virginia and Pennsylvania. It's big business. The financial lady told me that MD is one of the better states to be in for insurance coverage. Pennsylvania apparently doesnt' do much and you're basically on your own, so that sounds like the experiences you have had. They will find a way to get me pregnant, which is cool/positive. I think we may have to change locations though because the one closer to my work is far away from hubs' work. We can go to a more centrally located office and I'll just be late to work. ha! The things women have to do. :shrug:

Oldermom-I didn't look at the paperwork on making sex fun, but I'll share some tips if they have it. I'm sure it says 'relax, wear sexy stuff, play games, etc..' If hubs would rather watch zombie movies (like Atty's), there's no hope. :sick:

Sis-Hope today is a better day for you now that you got some pain meds. And sorry your hubs has left you high and dry while you're feeling bad. Men don't understand sometimes. :hugs:

My temperature jumped today, so I took my fever temperature back out of my chart. I'm being so wishy washy with Ffoe this time around. I'll just have to see what tomorrow brings. Oh, and today I'm back on the prenatal train. HA!!HA!! I am going mental. HA!

Oh, and a funny story about my bug eyed sunglasses. When we got to the airport in the Bahamas, we realized that neither of us packed sunglasses (snow will do that to you). So I picked up this funky pair for $10. When I was out on the beach about to take a sail a woman said to me 'I <3 your sunglasses. Are they Prada?' I said 'Um..no. I picked them up for ten bucks at the airport!' She said 'Oh...they look just like the Prada glasses for about $300. Don't tell anyone.' I said 'oh, ok. I won't.' Then I told hubs 'Just when you think I'm a fashion disaster, I'm actually fashion forward!!' Who knew??? :rofl:
 
Terri - Thanks for the great summary of your FE visit. Wow. A lot to take in, huh? It does seem like they have every angle covered though so I'm very hopeful for you. :happydance:

Future Mom - Again, so, so sorry for your loss. :hugs:

For all of you women here who have gone through losses after seeing that initial heartbeat, you are unbelievably strong. You're all amazing!
 
Morning Ladies I'm doing well so far today might even go to breakfast w my BFF!!

My flow is down to a normal med-light flow not sure if that's normal or not my body is weird though so it might jump back up tom!! :shrug:

Hope everyone has a great day it's almost Fri!!! :thumbup:
 

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