over 40 and trying in vain

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hi is there any other ladies out there in simular situation to me im almost 42 i have 4 yr old son iv been tryin in vain to have playmate for him id been tryin for 3 yrs i had mc last yr after 3half yrs of tryin it was bit heart breakin waitin all tht time to lose it.iv had all tests under sun both me and hubby theres no reason why?gyni are sayin its my age my eggs aint as good as they use 2 b charming he sed he will see me agen in jan2011 as iv been tryin 8mths since mc not dicktyboo omg am i really ova hill im not capable? i wud like to know if there is any 1 else with same probs as me or im tht unique it can only happen 2 me
im currently9dpo so any1 want to be buddy or follow me on my massive quest to get pregnant and get to finshin line with me would be really great as i feel so alone to be honest lost sorry for long rant i needed to talk to some 1 all my ttc buddies r pregnant or just havin theres as i was originally due nxt wk if id had made it
 
hi princessjulia. You're not alone, there are many of us gals over 40 in the same boat. Guess what, I'm about to turn 42 in February, I'm the same age as you. I've had 2 miscarriages, one at 11 weeks (after seeing the baby on the scan with the heartbeat ok) Dec 08 and one at 8 weeks, Jan 2010. I'm trying for my first baby. My heart is like a shattered mirror, it's never fully healed. I am so sorry for your loss.

My partner and I only got together 3 years ago so we too feel it's a race against time, we too have nothing wrong on the tests. I'll buddy with you! It's true our eggs are worse quality but there are lots of things we can still do to improve our chances. My consultant said that I will have by now about 40% normal eggs, 60% abnormal. But I've read that young women have 50% abnormal, so it's harder but not impossible. So 2 months in every 5 you will ovulate a normal egg. I personally think it's not just our egg quality but simple things that we can improve like mucus quality that might be impeding our fertility over 40. And if you can improve the environment around the egg at ovulation (below) that should help too. There is still hope! I'll list what I'm doing to help our chances:

1. Do the bd every 2 days in week leading up to ovulation (my cycle is 26 days long, so I ovulate around day 12. We try then to do the bd CD5,7,9,11,13 or 6,8,10,12,14. The key thing is to do the deed every 2 days not daily and make sure the spermies are there before the egg is released as the egg only lasts 12-18 hours. Don't miss a single month no matter how down you feel. Every cycle is another chance.

2. Unless you already make really good egg white mucus for a few days around ovulation why not try something to help (I take evening primrose oil 3000mg daily from CD1 to CD12). Some folk take a cough medicine called robitussin, and there's sperm-friendly lubricants like Preseed and Conceive Plus.

3. Go for missionary or doggie not sitting on top.

4. Lie in bed for at least an hour after or legs up against the wall with your hips on a pillow.

5. Make sure you both drink plenty of water around ovulation time.

6. Exercise: ideally both of you should do some moderate exercise 3-4 times a week, even a little yoga or a brisk walk helps your pelvic blood flow.

7. Switch any semi-skimmed or skimmed milk products to full-fat dairy and try to have 2 portions a day, i.e. one glass ff milk plus one ff yoghurt or scoop ice-cream or portion of ff cheese. This helps regular ovulation (Harvard Uni research study 2008). Skim products may actually hinder ovulation.

8. Supplements. I take Pregnacare Conception (His&Hers), Omega 3 called Eskimo-3 - 7mls liquid daily, Berocca vitamin B/C fizzy tablet, Coenzyme Q10 100mg daily, Royal Jelly/Bee pollen fresh product from Apitherapy called Apimist plus extra bee pollen, 1 teaspoon twice daily, plus EPO as mentioned above. My OH takes the same except no EPO or Coenzyme Q10.

Recently a study of 52 women undergoing IVF showed that the top quality embryos were produced by women taking oily fish in their diets regularly or omega-3 supplements. Also sperm tails are made out of omega 3. The worse were seen in people who ate a lot of trans-fats. So avoid all processed foods that contain hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oil (doughnuts, jelly sweets, certain crackers, biscuits, muesli bars).

The vitamin C in the Berocca has been shown to double men's sperm counts in 2 research studies (must be 1000mg daily).

Make sure you take all supplements with food for best absorption.

9. Something to give you more joy in life. Can you think of one thing in life you can change to improve your quality of life and find your joy again? I have decided to get a little puppy because I think it would be a great little companion and I have read of a lot of women getting pregnant after getting a puppy. Probably it's just such a busy little thing and it helps take people's minds off their troubles, it must really help a lot.

10. The next thing for me to try is acupuncture. I'm going to start an acupuncture over 35 thread.

Good luck, chin up. We'll get there if we remain determined and hopeful, that's for sure.
 
iv just gone through your post most of wat yr doin i am myself im takin my vits so is hubby we healthy eat take dogs for walk he bought me chihuhua pup last sept aft mc so i am busy lol i dnt no abt u but wen its ov time hubby stresses sometimes abt performin lol im like omg we aim 4 this every mth we manage as much as poss but hes on nites lol we didnt botha tryin ova xmas as too much goin on so waitin on af due 13thjan so we get bk 2 workin on it agen this month wish me luck and loads baby dust 2 u lets hope its our year
 
I agree, and I think it was the Preseed, the legs in the air afterwards and bding a lot in the couple of days BEFORE ovulation that made the difference for us in terms of practical things this cycle. GL xxxx
 
this cycle seems worst wait eva since boxin day iv felt sickly all time not just mornin at nite too,sore boobs i get just b4 af norm but this mth since boxin day i dnt symtom spot iv put it dwn 2 nevaending bug i must got or somet as with it been christmas i kinda gave up as was too busy thanku both 4 reply
 
My OH was prescribed Cialis last month by his GP, it's worked a treat and is extremely safe. He just takes a tablet an hour before the bd (taller guys need 2 tablets), hey presto no problems. It's like viagra except better because it lasts 2-3 days. Eventually it should help break the vicious circle and hopefully he shouldn't need it any more. It's my fault, but I can't help being so obsessive, since it's IVF for us otherwise in the Spring. Can't believe you've got a puppy, how cool is that. Post us a photo!
 
how do u download pics as iv tried 3 times it just says file error
 
Don't know sorry. By the way, check out my thread on omega 3 supplements and improved embryo quality. I've been taking it for depression so now I'm excited to find that the latest research from California shows that it improves embryo quality too. I've also had a blood test to check my vitamin D levels too at the GP, as a lot of people think it's worth taking a supplement for fertility. There is vitamin D in Pregnacare Conception His and Hers but it's a very low dose. Lots of people conceive when they go to warm sunny climates and sun exposure increases vitamin D levels. Worth a try, hey? xxx
 
what good excuse 4 hoiday lol yes we on pregacare my hubby is on fertilty boots make iv b takin baby asprin, eating healthy, walkin dogs some1 said other day to double up on folic acid so im seeing gyni on wednesday im goin 2 ask him about that thanku for advice i reay do appreciate it
 
update went to gyni today hes decided that 8 mths is too long since mc to get pregnant so gotta wait for af to arrive then clomid here i come.gyni is sayin a little helping hand mayb needed so now i start my quest thanks ladies for support
 
Is clomid required because you don't have regular cycles? It confuses me because my specialist has said it won't help me, my cycles are 25-26 days long. Good luck.
 
Oh dont loose heart. I fell pregnant 5 months after ttc. It can happen. I didnt really do much, just dtd every other day. No ov sticks or anything! Like you, really thought it wasnt going to happen as id fallen quickly other times and did have a chemical after two months of ttc. Really hope you get your bfp and goodluck. Oh and im 43 now. Was 42 when i concieved. x
 
i had blood tests done last yr and i wasnt producin healthy egg evry mth clomid this help gyni 2 c at least 1 egg that can b possibly fertilized
 
Oh someone help me please...im new to this forum..so dont know all the abbreviations,,sorry,,trying for baby 13 months now.im fine but hubbys sperm count was very low with abnormalities ;-(....doc is going to refer us to hospital for iui..does anyone know what this intails..how many injections do i take and when..im from n.ireland..thank u
 
Don't know sorry. By the way, check out my thread on omega 3 supplements and improved embryo quality. I've been taking it for depression so now I'm excited to find that the latest research from California shows that it improves embryo quality too. I've also had a blood test to check my vitamin D levels too at the GP, as a lot of people think it's worth taking a supplement for fertility. There is vitamin D in Pregnacare Conception His and Hers but it's a very low dose. Lots of people conceive when they go to warm sunny climates and sun exposure increases vitamin D levels. Worth a try, hey? xxx

Hi there BBgirl, I took your advice and got some Eskimo 3, it arrived today, I am sure it will help with my depression but quite excited that you say it could improve embryo quality as well. I also take Vitamin D, C , B Complex, Royal Jelly and Evening Primrose Oil.
 
Oh someone help me please...im new to this forum..so dont know all the abbreviations,,sorry,,trying for baby 13 months now.im fine but hubbys sperm count was very low with abnormalities ;-(....doc is going to refer us to hospital for iui..does anyone know what this intails..how many injections do i take and when..im from n.ireland..thank u

to be honest hun i dont know much about sperm quality as my hubbys has been checked and hes fine its me been that little bit older gyni feels i mite need bit of help as yr egg are on downhill slide when you hit 40 lol
 

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