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[dairymomma]

Lee-Congrats! I was hoping to hear an update. Cute pictures and even cuter boys.

Newly-congrats and from my experience, it's pretty variable. On the breastfeeding side, I've completely lost my milk when my hormones start rising so I've had to wean but not everyone has that problem. There will likely be a dip in supply but I know women who have powered through and gotten it back up again. On the progesterone side, you *may* not need it again. I know several women who had recurrent losses but after a successful pregnancy, it was like their hormones 'reset' and they didn't need it again. I am not one of those women (my progesterone levels stayed low and I m/c if unmedicated) but we have seen that my progesterone levels have started rising normally with my last few pregnancies and I think it's because I've done alot with hormone balancing/cleansing thru my naturopath. I will say that all of the doctors I've seen have said it's completely okay to take progesterone even if you don't need it so if you feel it's necessary-even if it only ends up being for peace of mind. However, I'd discuss this with your doctor first as I'm not sure if it will affect your milk at all.

 

[newlywedtzh]

Thanks so much dairy!! I'm not concerned so much about milk supply since dd is 19 months and eats a plethora of solids however weaning would be traumatic- she has always been a booby girl!

I spoke with my OB they did a blood draw today but she said she was unwilling to prescribe progesterone until she receives the results. My progesterone has started out good before then dropped so that concerns me. I think im going to make an appt. with the fertility doc to see their perspective. I forgot how much anxiety every pregnancy brought. Almost resenting it. Only time will tell though! Having a toddler to chase around does keep the mind occupied some.

 

[petitpas]

Congratulations!

Breastfeeding by itself shouldn't really be a problem but it is the drugs you might take, particularly aspirin, that could be bad in breastmilk.
When I planned my second baby, we decided (with the doctor) not to run any risks and go with the exact same prescriptions that worked the first time round.
For me, sadly, this meant weaning my son much earlier than planned (at 20 months) as the steroids and aspirin were a no-no for him.

I'm all for holistic help, but I also think that us RPL ladies have spent so much suffering in order to find the correct cocktail of drugs to have our babies that I personally wouldn't want to risk leaving anything out the second time round.

It is a very personal decision, of course. As it happens, my NK cell test results after my first pregnancy had changed to normal so I was offered the option to proceed without steroids the second time round. Hubby and I didn't want to risk it, though.

Perhaps your specialist from your last pregnancy is more qualified to advise you? It's not nice that they are already withholding harmless progesterone at what could be a very critical stage.

Good luck with whatever you choose and keep us updated! Xxx

 

[newlywedtzh]

Thanks Petit- was that pregnancy successful if you dont mind me asking?

I called my old fertility doctors office and oh my what a world of difference. They were very welcoming and brought me in right away (today) already prescribed me Folgard and Promettrium (progesterone) I already picked it up from the pharmacy and they got back to me already with my results.

HCG is 80 at 12dpo and progesterone is good at 19.5

They actually told me to hold off on taking the progesterone yet since my progesterone is good and high however with my DD it also started off at 20 and then dropped to 8.3 !

I'm going in for followup draw in two days which they will test prog again but maybe i will ask them to test it every couple of days just in case?

Haven't even heard from my OB yet with results and they are closed for the day so I think the fertility office is where I need to be- I would be able to get weekly ultrasounds and more attention and care.

I've also decided long ago that I would continue my nursing relationship eventho it carries risk. It is very special and important to me and my DD and although it may pose a risk for early MC I am willing to let nature take its course for now. Progesterone is also safe while nursing1

WIll keep u all updated- cant believe I'm back in the game!

 

[petitpas]

As long as you aren't taking aspirin, which is dangerous to children, then that's lovely that you can still breastfeed!

It sounds like you really are in the right hands now. Us RPL ladies don't just fall back into the normal category once we have had our first baby. We are traumatised forever so I do believe that any subsequent pregnancies need to be handled with kid gloves, too.

My first bfp, which I got just a couple of days after weaning, turned out to be a blighted ovum. I was sad but not worried sad iygwim. It felt like a 'normal' miscarriage, not the start of RPL all over again.

It still took it out of me in terms of morning sickness, emotions etc and I decided that my next pregnancy would be my last, regardless of the outcome. Luckily, that was our daughter, but it really took it out of my physically and I felt so guilty with regards to my lovely boy who I couldn't look after. He is ok, though, and loves his feisty little sister so it was all worth it in the end!

 

[Hope39]

hi everyone

It's been so long since I posted here, I hope your all well

Congrats Newly X

Squig- how are you doing my lovely, how many weeks is the little squiglet now?

I have spoken to the docs today , they are sending off another referal for me to mr Shehata. Mr Shehata wants to run bloods on me again before we try for No2, yikes!! We was going to start trying when Oscar was 9 months but I would have to stop breastfeeding Oscar which I can't bring myself to do quite yet. I am getting my bloods done and medications in place though for when I'm ready xx

 

[Madrid98]

Congrats newly!!

Petit I've been left so worried after reading your message. I've been breastfeeding all the pregnancy (He is 23 months now) and taking baby aspirin daily but nobody told me I shouldn't.

 

[loeylo]

Congrats Lee - two gorgeous babies!

Congrats Newly - don't know the answers to any of your questions, sorry!

Hope - how exciting! I would love to start trying soon but my oh isn't so keen - I'm from a small age gap family whereas his family all have big gaps which I think plays into it. Id be pregnant now if I had my way (speaking of which I completely forgot to start a new pack of the pill for three days, but we haven't dtd yet and my OH is aware of this. We are going away for a few nights so who knows ...)

 

[Hope39]

Congrats Lee - two gorgeous babies!

Congrats Newly - don't know the answers to any of your questions, sorry!

Hope - how exciting! I would love to start trying soon but my oh isn't so keen - I'm from a small age gap family whereas his family all have big gaps which I think plays into it. Id be pregnant now if I had my way (speaking of which I completely forgot to start a new pack of the pill for three days, but we haven't dtd yet and my OH is aware of this. We are going away for a few nights so who knows ...)

Tbh I probably wouldn't have waited till 9 months and started now if I didn't have to stop feeding . It's the bed time feed that I love the most when he is all bathed and ready for bed

I didn't bother starting the pill, as soon as he told me I might not have a period I then decided to not bother so I'm just being careful, lol

Xx

 

[Squig34]

Congratulations Newly

Good luck for no.2 Hope & Loeylo!

Hope, thanks for asking, I'm 30 weeks today & baby girl is doing well I only have 6 weeks tomorrow until induction; I'm getting so excited to meet her!

 

[newlywedtzh]

Ladies ladies ladies... Forgive me I will be using this thread a lot I feel. Especially since we are deciding to keep this pregnancy a secret until we know more.

Hcg is rising nicely however progesterone dropped from 19.5 (12dpo) to 15 (14dpo) in two days. Due to my history they want me to start the prometrium.

Had there been any conclusion to the oral vs vaginal Debate? Does vaginal curb the dizziness? I had terrible dizziness with DD and now that I'm at home with a little one it kind of scares me this time around!

I know it is so selfish but I wanted to see and was hoping that my body could do this on its own. Taking progesterone is probably the easiest thing a woman has to do to stay pregnant and I know many of you and friends have had to endure much worse things but I guess as a woman I feel like a failure.

My luteal phase was only 9 days before my bfp so maybe bf has something to do with it.

Feeing so guilty right now bc I'm already so distracted by all of this that I feel like I've been ignoring dd and call me crazy but I already feel nauseous and sooooo tired that I'm not being my happy vibrant mom I usually am which also is giving me guilt. I'm only 4 weeks today, seems crazy early for symptoms right? Maybe it's my nerves.

Ugh man, I forgot how taxing on the mind and soul and body this all is.

Will have a scan and bloods in a week.

 

[petitpas]

Madrid, it's due to something called Reye's syndrome. Rare, but potentially very dangerous. It might be a non-issue since you've been taking it so long now but maybe call your doctor and check it's ok to keep taking?

Newly,

Hope, baby number two time? Bring it on!

 

[Hope39]

Soon, when I can bring myself to stop feeding. I got to see shehata first anyway x

 

[mandy1971]

Hi ladies!! I've posted on this thread only on a handful of occasions in the earlier days..
Some of you might remember me..and know me from the sh facebook group now.
I just wanted to update that I am finally pregnant withy rainbow, and first baby, currently 35 weeks having a planned c section on 4th may at exactly 38 weeks.. I am 45 in July this is a naturally concieved baby
Which I really didn't think I'd be able to achieve at my age.. Couldn't have found the strength to keep trying and believe it was a achievable without this forums support over the years..

 

[newlywedtzh]

Wow Mandy a huge congrats !! Fingers crossed for an easy c section!!

 

[wookie130]

Ladies ladies ladies... Forgive me I will be using this thread a lot I feel. Especially since we are deciding to keep this pregnancy a secret until we know more.

Hcg is rising nicely however progesterone dropped from 19.5 (12dpo) to 15 (14dpo) in two days. Due to my history they want me to start the prometrium.

Had there been any conclusion to the oral vs vaginal Debate? Does vaginal curb the dizziness? I had terrible dizziness with DD and now that I'm at home with a little one it kind of scares me this time around!

I know it is so selfish but I wanted to see and was hoping that my body could do this on its own. Taking progesterone is probably the easiest thing a woman has to do to stay pregnant and I know many of you and friends have had to endure much worse things but I guess as a woman I feel like a failure.

My luteal phase was only 9 days before my bfp so maybe bf has something to do with it.

Feeing so guilty right now bc I'm already so distracted by all of this that I feel like I've been ignoring dd and call me crazy but I already feel nauseous and sooooo tired that I'm not being my happy vibrant mom I usually am which also is giving me guilt. I'm only 4 weeks today, seems crazy early for symptoms right? Maybe it's my nerves.

Ugh man, I forgot how taxing on the mind and soul and body this all is.

Will have a scan and bloods in a week.

I would do the vaginal suppositories...I am also a low progesterone gal (usually around an 8, even while pregnant), and both of my vaginal suppository pregnancies were my rainbows. It absorbs better into the bloodstream via the vag, from my understanding.

 

[newlywedtzh]

Thanks Wookie! I think I'm gonna do one orally in the am and one vaginally at night.

Did it make you spot at all? I think that's what I'm afraid of. I don't need snything adding to the anxiety levels :-X

My nipples are no longer as sore - but I guess that's bc my progesterone dropped.

I just want to know why?!?! What causes women to have insufficient progesterone levels?

 

[Madrid98]

Thanks Petit! I did a bit of research and I'm confident it won't be harmful in my case. I only breastfeed him once a day, before I put him in his bed for about 5-10 minutes max around 8pm. And the baby aspirin I take it always before I go to bed, that's around 11pm. It seems the time gap is big enough not to affect him. I guess that's why my consultant didn't tell me to stop.

Newly the progesterone thing must be so frustrating! I'm glad to hear they're keeping an eye on it and with the tablets it should be under control from now on.

 

[wookie130]

Thanks Wookie! I think I'm gonna do one orally in the am and one vaginally at night.

Did it make you spot at all? I think that's what I'm afraid of. I don't need snything adding to the anxiety levels :-X

My nipples are no longer as sore - but I guess that's bc my progesterone dropped.

I just want to know why?!?! What causes women to have insufficient progesterone levels?

I probably would not do both, and if you're going to go with the oral prometrium, do it at night, as it can cause blurred vision, and some other undesirable things, as far as I've read...but personally, I'd do the vaginal suppositories. They work well, and they literally saved my babies - I'm sure of it.

To answer your question, I did NOT spot with Hannah, but I bled quite a bit with Oscar, to the point where he was classified a "threatened miscarriage" until I was 20 weeks along. There was never any identifiable reason for the bleeding, but they suspect the suppositories were irritating my cervix a bit. It was always quite a bit more bleeding than "spotting"...I had to wear a pad, and it was like a light to medium flow. It was horribly stressful. I had to have several ultrasounds, and everything was always fine...but I worried tremendously that it wasn't.

 

[laullypop]

Hi everyone, I haven't posted here before but just noticed this board. Congrats to everyone!

I just want to say how reassuring it is to hear that progesterone suppositories seem to have worked for a lot of you. I'm taking them until 12 weeks this pregnancy, after asking but being refused them on my last pregnancy.
I'm also taking 75mg per day aspirin and praying everything goes well. xx