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Good luck with your scan Puppy... be sure to post a pic!
Davies- I hope the flaxseed works for you!!
Got my final Beta back today, the whole group is as follows:
13dpo-43,
15 dpo-133,
18dpo-598,
20dpo-1416
I'm psyched, first scan tomorrow.
Davies- I hope the flaxseed works for you!!
Got my final Beta back today, the whole group is as follows:
13dpo-43,
15 dpo-133,
18dpo-598,
20dpo-1416
I'm psyched, first scan tomorrow.
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what a glorious day. I feel a sunburn comming on lol
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Sara, those are brilliant betas!
I am Factor V Leiden heterozygous but with a history of clots (which is why I have been anticoagulated for so long.
I don't know whether you have read the guidelines but they are here:
www.rcog.org.uk/womens-health/clinical-guidance/reducing-risk-of-thrombosis-greentop37a
From page 20 onwards is probably most interesting for you as it explains the heparin dosage.
There is also a separate guideline on management for recurrent pregnancy loss, which you can access from the same website.
The guideline I linked you to is for clot prevention but I think it is appropriate due to your homozygous thrombophilia.
Your doc seems quite proactive with the heparin dose. Either because he considers you high risk/just wants to be careful or because you are overweight, in which case the dose is increased. You might be on a higher dose than most ladies here but it is not excessive. For instance, if you were now diagnosed with a current clot you would be treated on an even higher dose.
The one thing that does seem a little unusual is taking shots three times a day. To space them out evenly would mean taking one every 8 hours which seems a little inconvenient at the least. Your doc might have a special reason but in a general case I have never come across this. You might want to take your doc up on the offer of one lower and one higher dose a day.
To be honest, from what I see nothing suggests you HAVE to be on heparin so why go completely overboard?
As for the prothrombin test, Dr google suggests that low molecular weight heparin (clexane is of this type) does not always prolong the time, which is why an anti-Xa assay might be more effective as a test. This is all quite complicated stuff, tbh, so I don't want to say your doctor is wrong! In any case, as I mentioned before, your higher dose may be unusual for rpl ladies but not unusual as a dose administered during pregnancy.
As for the aspirin, that is a whole different discussion. I would want to take (in fact, I do) but your doctor needs to be on board as it can affect your blood results. Any chance you could bring it up again, mentioning the elevated risks of recurrent pregnancy loss, IUGR, preeclampsia and clots at the placenta linked to thrombophilia?
Sorry, I am not sure whether the above is clear. It doesn't help that I am typing on my phone and have a cat cradled in one arm
Do feel free to ask me further questions.
I am Factor V Leiden heterozygous but with a history of clots (which is why I have been anticoagulated for so long.
I don't know whether you have read the guidelines but they are here:
www.rcog.org.uk/womens-health/clinical-guidance/reducing-risk-of-thrombosis-greentop37a
From page 20 onwards is probably most interesting for you as it explains the heparin dosage.
There is also a separate guideline on management for recurrent pregnancy loss, which you can access from the same website.
The guideline I linked you to is for clot prevention but I think it is appropriate due to your homozygous thrombophilia.
Your doc seems quite proactive with the heparin dose. Either because he considers you high risk/just wants to be careful or because you are overweight, in which case the dose is increased. You might be on a higher dose than most ladies here but it is not excessive. For instance, if you were now diagnosed with a current clot you would be treated on an even higher dose.
The one thing that does seem a little unusual is taking shots three times a day. To space them out evenly would mean taking one every 8 hours which seems a little inconvenient at the least. Your doc might have a special reason but in a general case I have never come across this. You might want to take your doc up on the offer of one lower and one higher dose a day.
To be honest, from what I see nothing suggests you HAVE to be on heparin so why go completely overboard?
As for the prothrombin test, Dr google suggests that low molecular weight heparin (clexane is of this type) does not always prolong the time, which is why an anti-Xa assay might be more effective as a test. This is all quite complicated stuff, tbh, so I don't want to say your doctor is wrong! In any case, as I mentioned before, your higher dose may be unusual for rpl ladies but not unusual as a dose administered during pregnancy.
As for the aspirin, that is a whole different discussion. I would want to take (in fact, I do) but your doctor needs to be on board as it can affect your blood results. Any chance you could bring it up again, mentioning the elevated risks of recurrent pregnancy loss, IUGR, preeclampsia and clots at the placenta linked to thrombophilia?
Sorry, I am not sure whether the above is clear. It doesn't help that I am typing on my phone and have a cat cradled in one arm
Do feel free to ask me further questions.
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Mom, I don't think you need to worry about measuring three days off from your previous scan. There is a five day error margin either way with these scans. Loads of us have measured either behind or ahead at different scans. That's normal!
As for the possible haematomas, I'm sorry you are going through this
I hope you get more information soon so you know what you are dealing with. Heart gave a good summary of what to ask for so you understand the risk better. I am keeping my fingers crossed for you that it is nothing major fxfxfxfx
As for the possible haematomas, I'm sorry you are going through this
I hope you get more information soon so you know what you are dealing with. Heart gave a good summary of what to ask for so you understand the risk better. I am keeping my fingers crossed for you that it is nothing major fxfxfxfx
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Good stuff, Jen! I can't believe there was no carpet in there before. Have you asked the landlord to contribute?
Sara, it all comes down to practice and laziness
AFM, I'm loving my new pregnancy pillow. I got a giant u-shaped one as I flip from side to side and it gives me support in both directions.
Sara, it all comes down to practice and laziness
AFM, I'm loving my new pregnancy pillow. I got a giant u-shaped one as I flip from side to side and it gives me support in both directions.
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pip- i have a u shaped preg pillow too and LOVE it, problem is dh and the dogs love it too...wish i had 2
mom2 - i wouldn't worry too much about it but i completely understand the worry. there's a blog i follow where she's preg w/twins and she bled tons for months and now it's just a little if at all and she is always fine, she's 25 weeks or so now?
jen - happy you got the carpet purchased! i can't wait until i can choose mine and buy it, a guy is coming out tonight to measure
puppy and florida- good luck with scans - want pics!!
davies - hope you can find something that works! i'm feeling much better, back at work, now just have a cough and still tired as always. but i slept for 5.5 hours straight last night which is about the longest in a row i've slept for a long time
sara - pip is a like a dr when it comes to this stuff
tracie- how hot is it there? sounds awesome, it's about 60 F here.
davies - you tanning outside in a bikini?
mom2 - i wouldn't worry too much about it but i completely understand the worry. there's a blog i follow where she's preg w/twins and she bled tons for months and now it's just a little if at all and she is always fine, she's 25 weeks or so now?
jen - happy you got the carpet purchased! i can't wait until i can choose mine and buy it, a guy is coming out tonight to measure
puppy and florida- good luck with scans - want pics!!
davies - hope you can find something that works! i'm feeling much better, back at work, now just have a cough and still tired as always. but i slept for 5.5 hours straight last night which is about the longest in a row i've slept for a long time
sara - pip is a like a dr when it comes to this stuff
tracie- how hot is it there? sounds awesome, it's about 60 F here.
davies - you tanning outside in a bikini?
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Hi girls, I know I've never posted in here before, but I'm just looking for some support. I am pregnant after 2 losses in a row and believe I am now experiencing my 3rd loss 
How do you guys do it? Did you continue to TTC? I just feel so broken and hopeless and alone and just devastated. I know things with my FS will change after a 3rd loss, he'll want additional testing and everything, I just don't know. Not to mention I've been TTC for 4 years and have only managed to get pregnant 3 times, it just seems so unfair and just hopeless. Sorry to be a downer, just looking for some ways to heal after this. I don't know if I'll ever quite heal, it doesn't feel like it right now.
How do you guys do it? Did you continue to TTC? I just feel so broken and hopeless and alone and just devastated. I know things with my FS will change after a 3rd loss, he'll want additional testing and everything, I just don't know. Not to mention I've been TTC for 4 years and have only managed to get pregnant 3 times, it just seems so unfair and just hopeless. Sorry to be a downer, just looking for some ways to heal after this. I don't know if I'll ever quite heal, it doesn't feel like it right now.hopeful23456
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mammag - i'm so sorry you are going through this, i feel it's one of the top 5 worse things that can ever happen to a person. I completely understand what you are going through as will the girls here.
what helped me was having a plan and trying everything i read and could get my hands on as my early losses were unexplained and all before anything was really formed in the sac. i took lovenox, progesterone, prednisone, baby asp and a ton of vitamins and l-methylfolate this time and something worked out. i also had IUI and tons of injectible stim meds to get good ripe and extra follicles even though i ovu regularly and everything with RPL tests was pretty normal. i've had 3 m/c on natural cycles and 1 m/c on a clomid cycle.
these will be my first children, i'm 36.
i used to cry all the time, couldn't make it through stores without crying as i would see kids everywhere, same with watching tv, i really hated life and it just took time and a plan. and keep trying! do you have any children now? have you thought about getting testing done and maybe doing IUIs with stim meds? I would get preg within 3 months of trying naturally but the monitored cycles are nice as you know exactly what is going on.
if it's taking a long time in between to get preg, and if hopefully your insurance would cover it, i would look into doing monitored cycles with IUI.
there is a great RPL thread on here too that you should join.
what helped me was having a plan and trying everything i read and could get my hands on as my early losses were unexplained and all before anything was really formed in the sac. i took lovenox, progesterone, prednisone, baby asp and a ton of vitamins and l-methylfolate this time and something worked out. i also had IUI and tons of injectible stim meds to get good ripe and extra follicles even though i ovu regularly and everything with RPL tests was pretty normal. i've had 3 m/c on natural cycles and 1 m/c on a clomid cycle.
these will be my first children, i'm 36.
i used to cry all the time, couldn't make it through stores without crying as i would see kids everywhere, same with watching tv, i really hated life and it just took time and a plan. and keep trying! do you have any children now? have you thought about getting testing done and maybe doing IUIs with stim meds? I would get preg within 3 months of trying naturally but the monitored cycles are nice as you know exactly what is going on.
if it's taking a long time in between to get preg, and if hopefully your insurance would cover it, i would look into doing monitored cycles with IUI.
there is a great RPL thread on here too that you should join.
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I was actually scheduled to do a monitored IUI cycle two months ago, and somehow, completely randomly, after nothing for three years, I got pregnant, it ended early, just like the one three years prior, but gave me a little hope, like maybe I could get pregnant on my own if that makes sense, so I was scheduled to start on my next cycle (which should be right now) and then, by some fluke, and to my complete surprise, I got pregnant AGAIN, but my levels are not doubling and this one looks like it will end as well. This one, does NOT give me hope, this one just makes me want to scream and cry and break things. I do have two children, two boys 5 & 8 that I conceived naturally and quickly. When we started TTC a third it was just a laid back sort of thing that I never in a million years dreamed would turn into this huge process/obsession. The thing is, with this m/c, DH has put the brakes on, he says it's not good for us, he says things like this ruin relationships and he's afraid that I'm going to have some kind of mental break down or something and never be the same. So he will no longer participate in TTC with me. Now, this may just be something he is saying now, in his pain of losing another baby, but at least for the near future, IUI and monitored cycles are out of the question. IDK, I know I should feel fulfilled with my two boys, but I always wanted a big family, my mom had 7, my sister is on her 6th; they both became naturally pregnant with twins, I have somehow completely skipped my families fertility gene. I wish I could just turn off my desire for just ONE more baby, but I can not. I can not stop wondering, and each month, each miscarriage, just makes the desire that much stronger.
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pip- i have a u shaped preg pillow too and LOVE it, problem is dh and the dogs love it too...wish i had 2
mom2 - i wouldn't worry too much about it but i completely understand the worry. there's a blog i follow where she's preg w/twins and she bled tons for months and now it's just a little if at all and she is always fine, she's 25 weeks or so now?
jen - happy you got the carpet purchased! i can't wait until i can choose mine and buy it, a guy is coming out tonight to measure
puppy and florida- good luck with scans - want pics!!
davies - hope you can find something that works! i'm feeling much better, back at work, now just have a cough and still tired as always. but i slept for 5.5 hours straight last night which is about the longest in a row i've slept for a long time
sara - pip is a like a dr when it comes to this stuff
tracie- how hot is it there? sounds awesome, it's about 60 F here.
davies - you tanning outside in a bikini?
its about 69 F here today.
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mamma - my dh said he didn't want to try anymore either, numerous times, we fought all the time, it sucked. but i wasn't going to live my life never having kids, with or without him.
it's hard with secondary rpl, where you have some first and then who knows what happens. there are a few awesome gals here that are doing great and are preg after having kids then having m/cs. and i think it worked out with a natural cycle?
i think your dh will come around, it's just way too soon right now.
here's the rpl thread i was referring to: https://www.babyandbump.com/miscarriage-support/127351-recurrent-miscarriage-thread.html
why do you think you are m/c? how far along are you?
it's hard with secondary rpl, where you have some first and then who knows what happens. there are a few awesome gals here that are doing great and are preg after having kids then having m/cs. and i think it worked out with a natural cycle?
i think your dh will come around, it's just way too soon right now.
here's the rpl thread i was referring to: https://www.babyandbump.com/miscarriage-support/127351-recurrent-miscarriage-thread.html
why do you think you are m/c? how far along are you?
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Sara I just looked back at my numbers and mine were 1411 at 19dpo. Yours are perfect! Don't forget that tomorrows scan won't show much as it's really early. They may see a sac, but might not be able to identify it as a sac. It can look like other things this early on. Your numbers are very indicative of a viable pregnancy though. Fingers crossed!
I want a U shaped pillow! I also want a tan! Why do I live in California? The weather has been horrible here. Constant rain and cold. My back yard flooded again last night! Jealous.com of everyone's nice weather.
Puppy I hope your baby flashes it's bits so we know what team you're on. LOL! I'm not very patient.
Mammag, I think Hopeful said everything I would have said. It's still so fresh and it's hard to make any decisions right now. Everyone on this thread made the decision to keep moving forward despite how many losses we've all had as we're all pregnant now. Most of us have had every test under the sun. If you are indeed going through another loss I highly suggest joining recurrent miscarriage thread if you haven't already. This thread might be too difficult for you as we're all talking about our pregnancies. I'm so sorry you are going through this.
AFM, another day on the couch. I guess the weather lends itself to bed rest. If it were sunny and warm I'd want to be playing outside!
I want a U shaped pillow! I also want a tan! Why do I live in California? The weather has been horrible here. Constant rain and cold. My back yard flooded again last night! Jealous.com of everyone's nice weather.
Puppy I hope your baby flashes it's bits so we know what team you're on. LOL! I'm not very patient.
Mammag, I think Hopeful said everything I would have said. It's still so fresh and it's hard to make any decisions right now. Everyone on this thread made the decision to keep moving forward despite how many losses we've all had as we're all pregnant now. Most of us have had every test under the sun. If you are indeed going through another loss I highly suggest joining recurrent miscarriage thread if you haven't already. This thread might be too difficult for you as we're all talking about our pregnancies. I'm so sorry you are going through this.
AFM, another day on the couch. I guess the weather lends itself to bed rest. If it were sunny and warm I'd want to be playing outside!
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Thank you ladies. Heart, thanks for the info. I'll be asking all the right questions. I think I'll call my doc and get a copy of the scan results faxed to me. He didn't say anything after the first scan, so I'm not sure if they were there at 7 weeks or not. He doesn't seem too concerned, just wants to watch them. He said he wants me to get another ultrasound between 10 days and 2 weeks from the last, so Monday is the soonest. Praying all is well and they are getting smaller. I haven't had any bleeding, so I guess that's a good sign.
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Hi girls
Sorry its so late but scan pics and details in my journal if u wanna look. Here's one for u tho - i think he flashed his boy bits, what do u think??
https://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j369/puppycat72/IMAG1367.jpg
Sorry its so late but scan pics and details in my journal if u wanna look. Here's one for u tho - i think he flashed his boy bits, what do u think??
https://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j369/puppycat72/IMAG1367.jpg
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Where is everyone? I've already given my theory on Puppy's journal. She posted a few more pics in there. Davies, where are those keen eyes of yours?
This pic makes me think girl because I think I see a fork and 3 lines. But in the top pic in her journal, I thought I saw a scrotum and penis. I'm 50/50!!!
This pic makes me think girl because I think I see a fork and 3 lines. But in the top pic in her journal, I thought I saw a scrotum and penis. I'm 50/50!!!
