PAL after Recurrent Losses - come join us!

[daviess3]

Wow we r sooo talkative lol! I have been at work!! Boring very quiet today! Jenny I have everything crossed for you I understand nothing we will say will change ur feelings but just no were all with u! Close ur eyes an were all there thinking an I'm off work Tom do I will be awaiting your updates!! Your going to be fine hun xx

Fili I hope you get lots of info from others coz I'm bit useless at info I think!! X

How's everyone? Embo hopeful heart florida Croy pip pup pretty bumpy....how we all doing?

Afm had lots of movement today when sitting at my desk during the day it was unbelievable felt like baby was turning etc I love it! Had few movements tonight whilst on sofa but I noticed it normally happens when I eat!! I love it!! X

 

[hopeful23456]

Hi beach- the meds to stimulate and grow follicles were repronex and follistim, and ganirelix makes it so you don't ovu early, then when follies r big enough you take a shot of ovidrel to release the follies and have iui about 37 hours later.

Prednisone is a steroid, lovenox is a blood thinner, I really had no test that said I needed them but wanted to rule anything out, even possible stuff they don't have testing for yet. I wanted to try anything and everything before considering ivf with pgd as its so pricey.

My blood nk cells were 11% and some drs treat with prednisone at 12% or over. We will never know what worked, if any of it but I wanted to try everything

The mthfr type I have isn't a clotting disorder, just inability to absorb folic acid properly but they say 40% of the population has it. There are more severe levels of mthfr that are more of clotting disorders

My meds were all prescription, I asked to be on them but was also suggested to be on them from my re who is now my Obgyn as they have had a lot of success with these meds for girls with unexplained recurrent early mcs. Ive read about other girls online having success with the same thing too.

Do they know why your homocysteine was high?

Hi Davies! Hope work went ok today

Fili- I had saline infusions before, they are easy peasy

Jen- good luck at scan! I'm sure it will be fine!

 

[filipenko32]

Thanks Hopeful, Do you think theyd let me have one done now while I'm waiting for af?

 

[filipenko32]

Hopeful how you feeling these days anyway, have you had more bump growth?! Davies how you doing hun? Xx

 

[daviess3]

Good Hun loving the movement!! Feels wierd, how u?
Work was pants hopeful was quiet was raining all day so quiet day! Only did 11am-5pm so was ok today!
Man I have heartburn every night!! Anyone else got/had it? I have gaviscon chewable tablets there discusting! X

 

[filipenko32]

Aww that's wonderful you're feeling the movement now I didn't know! You can talk to your baby if its quiet in the shop!

 

[hopeful23456]

Davies- luckily I've never had heartburn and don't know what it feel like- knock on wood!
Or you say touch wood there?

Fili- can't remember if it had to be done at a certain point in a cycle but I think so! My first was almost 2 years ago, I have had 2 of them

I feel little taps from time to time but it's random. I need to do a bump pic soon...it is bigger, 18 lbs between bump and boobs but mainly bump

 

[daviess3]

Hopeful I only felt little bubbles until probably today an then I felt proper gurgling! Do exciting! X

 

[BeachChica]

Its so great that everyone has done so well in their pregnancies and did not need the CSV!!! I am really feeling hopeful!

Thanks for the info Hopeful! I am definitely adding that one to the list. I saw the Vit B supercomplex you are taking also helps with stress. Sometimes I wonder if that's the problem with so many unexplained losses.

Davies - wow another 4 losses and a successful pregnancy. More inspiration for me! Did you do anything different this pregnancy to get your little bean to stick?

Fili - thanks for the link and I will definitely check that out. I know you have done a lot of research and you and I seem to be in very similar boat so I will be picking your brain too!

 

[filipenko32]

Hopeful I hope you don't get too kicked in a few weeks time!! Or maybe one will kick at a different time. Aww that's just wonderful!!

 

[puppycat]

I wanted to share this with you....

 

[daviess3]

Chica the only things I did differently is I took pregnecare 75mg aspirin an folic acid an400mg progesterone I only added pregnecare to the concoction! X

 

[Smm3]

Hi, I just found out I am having twins I am 7w4d. I have had 2 miscarriages in the past year and a half. I am a nervous wreck that I am going to miscarry my babies again. I am trying to stay positive but every little ache is driving me crazy. I am taking Crinone 8% progesterone, lovenox injections (blood thinner), 3 mg folic acid daily plus my prenatal vitamins.

Anyone else have a successful twin pregnancy after miscarriage?

 

[FloridaGirl21]

puppy, love that pic

Smm, so sorry for your losses. I'm pregnant after two losses with twins. I don't feel 'safe' yet really, but reaching 2nd tri has been a huge thing for me and my outlook on this pregnancy. Definately feeling more positive every day & have done my best to keep my PMA

I'm on low dose aspirin daily & 200mg Progesterone suppositories until I reach 14 weeks, which will be two more sleeps

how far along were you with your prior losses?

Were your twins conceived naturally? We conceived ours on Clomid, but twins do run in my family

 

[petitpas]

Davies, I suffered a lot from heartburn until recently (and again tonight but that's my own fault for eating something spicy past the pain threshold ). The only thing that worked for me was Gaviscon advanced liquid. You can get your GP to prescribe it to you and then it is free. Mine prescribed me two bottles so I got to try both the peppermint and the aniseed flavours. I hate the peppermint but aniseed is fine. Apparently, I am the opposite to most people

Ladies, I hate the popups that started this weekend. All gambling websites, which I find highly inappropriate for a baby and parenting website
I was using chrome on my netbook and opera on my Android phone. It happened with both.

Chica, I knew I had a clotting issue (Factor V Leiden heterozygous = inherited from just one parent, quite common and not always an issue) even before ttc-ing as I had clots in my leg and my lungs. So, besides it helping the baby, I need to be on heparin during pregnancy to prevent further clots in me.
With my first pregnancy I didn't manage to get on the meds before the mmc was diagnosed at 11.5 weeks so doctors blamed the loss on bad luck or clotting. It seemed a fair assumption.
Pregnancy #2 I was on heparin and aspirin. The baby died suddenly just before 9 weeks. The doctors blamed it on me flying, must have been a clotting issue.
Pregnancy #3 wasn't growing very well and was expelled by my body at 7.5 weeks. My consultant had added high folic avid and progesterone supplements to my regime. It felt like a genuine bad luck loss (I still believe that. After all, us rpl ladies are not immune to the odd chromosomal loss).
Pregnancy #4 was even shorter and ended just past 6 weeks. It hadn't felt right from the beginning, either. Bad luck again but like you, I was unable to have the tissue tested so I was not getting any answers.
Pregnancy #5 was a lot more hopeful. I felt properly and confidently pregnant. This did not feel like a bad 'un. I had weekly scans until I reached 9 weeks and yet again the baby had suddenly died. I had been on heparin, aspirin, high dose folic acid and progesterone. Luckily, I was able to have this one's tissue tested. It came back as normal. This meant that there was still something wrong with me that had not been treated yet.
My local consultant said there was nothing else she knew I could do and that maybe I should think about giving up. IVF wouldn't work (after all, I was getting pregnant and successfully implanting, too), my current treatment was not enough. If I kept on trying without changing anything most likely I would keep getting the same result.

As a last attempt, DH and I visited two rpl specialists. The ones who had been seeing me since my third loss suggested exploratory surgery to investigate Asherman's syndrome (not impossible after 5 D&Cs). The other suggested a blood test and if positive a simple course of steroids.
It is a pretty new subject that is still being studied. I must admit that I was sceptical but the fact that it was the less invasive option persuaded me to give it a try first.
I tested positive for having extra aggressive nkcells and put on steroids. It worked!

All in all, in this pregnancy I took steroids, heparin, aspirin, progesterone, vitamin D, high dose folic acid and Pregnacare Plus (multivitamins and omega 3).

 

[Smm3]

@floridagrl21. I was 8 weeks with one and 11 with the second. I conceived on my second month of clomid. Twins run in my husbands family. His father has a twin sister and his great grandmother had 5 sets of twins!!

Did you have a lot of cramping in your first trimester? I have been crampy all day today.

 

[FloridaGirl21]

I had tons of cramping on and off, still get it sometimes. Are the meds that you're on (progesterone and blood thinner) new to this pregnancy?

I conceived on my 2nd round Clomid too

 

[Smm3]

Yes this is the first time I am taking the meds. I also have a 3yo girl, the losses were after I had her. So I really didn't (still don't) understand what was going on and why I couldn't have another baby.

I am just so excited, scared, nervous... Feels like I am driving myself crazy with worry and I know I need to relax. I am sure you can relate.

Do you know the sex of your babies yet?

 

[FloridaGirl21]

I hope the meds you're on are exactly what you need I know it's hard to keep a PMA when PAL, but it's good that you found this thread, this is a great group of ladies here and they offer a ton of support

We're finding out the genders March 28th, we have a private scan scheduled

 

[Smm3]

Best of luck to you and the babies! Thanks for chatting! This is a great thread.