positive opk @ 8dpo...HELP!!!

[mzswizz]

AFM, Well dh and i are in the hotel but separate rooms which is okay though because we got to get use to being away from each other especially in the months of boot camp and job training. Also, i brought my thermometer with me but i have a quick question. Okay, so we have to get up at 4:30am which is wayyyy earlier than my normal 6:50am. What can i do about the temp adjustment? Like how can i adjust my temp when i take it in the morning?

 

[staceyj83]

you can use this site https://www.whenmybaby.com/basalbodytemperature.php you put in your normal wake up time and the time you did get up then your temp and it will adjust it for you

L.E. i know it did jump high didnt think it would we shall see what happens hope that means my body is going right back to normal after my mc in 2010 it took a year for my cycles to become nornal again

 

[mzswizz]

Thanks stacey

 

[staceyj83]

welcome

 

[L.E.]

That's the same adjuster I was using.

Aww that makes me a little sad that you're in separate rooms. You don't HAVE to sleep in your own room, do you?

 

[FngrsCrossed]

AFM, Well dh and i are in the hotel but separate rooms which is okay though because we got to get use to being away from each other especially in the months of boot camp and job training. Also, i brought my thermometer with me but i have a quick question. Okay, so we have to get up at 4:30am which is wayyyy earlier than my normal 6:50am. What can i do about the temp adjustment? Like how can i adjust my temp when i take it in the morning?

It's .10 for every 30 minutes you wake early.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

MsSwizz I am with L.E. I wouldn't sleep separate from my husband, It's bad enough it will happen in boot camp but to start trying to "get used" to it...That sounds sooo awful. Guess that's why Military is something that I can't do. DH is my bestfriend, I couldn't imagine being so far away from him. It's bad enough when he works nights. :/

 

[L.E.]

Well I still feel like poo today. I have the sore throat, swollen glands, sinuses draining, both ears plugged and hurting, and it's making my teeth hurt a little too... and of course it makes my head in general hurt. I've never had all these at the same time. So annoying. So I didn't do much of anything today and I already took my NyQuil hoping to go to sleep soon. If the smiley yesterday was legit, then my chances of conceiving this cycle are slim to none. I do not feel like doing the deed tonight for sure and it's been a week because my spotting was mixed with bleeding and was a heavy spotting at least.

If, by a miracle, FF friend is right and I did O on CD14, I would have a chance at least. We BD on CD11 and again on CD12/13 (like 1:30 a.m. on the 13th).

I hated marking today as "Spotting" but I had to be honest on my own chart lol. It was so little today that I definitely would've BD had I felt better.

**Does anyone have a thought about the chart discrepancies?

 

[L.E.]

Question: Do you trust TCOYF more or FF? TCOYF does not show a cover line or ovulation, no matter what I do with my temps. I'm still not sure that I did ovulate at all, but why would FF show it and not TCOYF? Even with adjusted temps, .1 degree higher than my others would give me a 97.4 cover line and I had 3 days above that. So apparently based off my temps, it's possible, but I just don't know what to think. Just wanted opinions.


HA JUST REALIZED I STILL HAD THIS WINDOW OPEN AND HADN'T POSTED... NO WONDER NO ONE ANSWERED ME!! LOL

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Well I hate that you are still feeling bad. lol @ keeping window open. I am thinking on that question about which one I trust. I am going to update with an edit after I think about that a few minutes.

Edit: Ok so after a shower and much deliberation, I must admit to being torn. TCOYF is pretty reliable, but so if FF. I think TCOYF has some really great features that FF doesn't have that allows for better detection of ovulation sometimes. Sounding a little like I am on TCOYF's side... I don't know which one I can trust more. Sometimes TCOYF does some weird things if you have a werid thermal shift. Like I usually do. Then FF doesn't do what TCOYF does when you have a weird thermal shift. I am voting for both lol but would like it to be known that I like TCOYF better for the next few days, only because I got a CL before FF! Maybe once my thermal shift occurs I may not like TCOYF anymore.

 

[L.E.]

I can't figure out why TCOYF ignores my last cycle... I guess because it was annovulatory. It is basing my fertile window off the 41 day cycle I had in Jan/Feb. FF seems sort of adamant about the dotted cross-hairs. I thought I threw it off putting in the fertile cm but when I took that out, it still had the same cross-hairs. I know I tried several things to see if my cross-hairs go away, and I think they only stayed gone if my temp stays low, so we'll see. It's 3 a.m. Of course I did't get my rear in bed til 1.5 hrs after taking the Nyquil and it wore off about 45 mins ago. I was waiting til closer to the 6 hr mark to take another dose. 10 mins til 5.5 hrs and I'm going to go ahead and take it so I can go back to bed.

Tonight I've only had 1 nostril clear at a time so I've been prone to mouth-breathing. I wonder if I did that last night and that's why my temp was low. I can't remember now. Ok off to take more meds and get back to sleep.

 

[staceyj83]

Im not sure tcoyf keeps moving my peak day but with ff if i get a high temp tomorrow i only get doted crosshairs

 

[FngrsCrossed]

L.E. If you were mouth breathing then it's for sure that your temp would be low. That's what I was saying about me hanging the foot out. Those things can affect temps. AND also the NyQuil can do it. Some women won't take it, but honestly there is no reason to suffer for BBT sake. You did the right thing by taking it, I would have too. I am eager to see you temp this morning.

Stacey It keeps moving your peak day back because it is waiting for your dry or sticky days to occur. With TCOYF even creamy CM is considered fertile. Some women don't get anything more than creamy cm. People believe that only eggwhite and watery is fertile. But creamy is also fertile. The only CM that isn't fertile is sticky. So that's what it is waiting for. Once you record 4 days of dry or sticky CM then you will be clear. It's going to count them off for you. I wouldn't worry too much about the CM dry up count. You know, you could always go into your settings, and change the number of days it counts, and you can also change it from considering dry/sticky your non-fertile point, to considering creamy as non fertile. I would only do that though if you know that you ALWAYS get EWCM or watery EVERY cycle, and you ALWAYS have creamy instead of drying up or going sticky all the way until AF. If you usually dry up then I guess you could keep it as is?

Ladies it looks as though I MAY have ovulated yesterday. But it's up in the air really. I woke 1 hr 45 minutes early, which isn't unusual around ovulation time. My temp has spiked. So either today or yesterday was ovulation. So going to dance today a couple times (hopefully). TCOYF is saying ovulation is today...with FF it's saying yesterday if I put in the fake temps. Which aren't much higher than the are now. I did yelp last nice. I had a sharp pain in my left ovary. Then I cracked a joke with DH and every time I laughed, it hurt like nothing else. I got some full ferning on the microscope this morning. It looks weird, it's really darker and thick on one side and lighter and delicate on the other. I am going to take a pic, it's the only way I can describe it. Think my sample wasn't a huge sample so that's why. But it's two different ferning patters on one slide. still pretty though.

 

[L.E.]

97.72 today I don't feel feverish and the NyQuil should've taken care of that if I was. I don't know if my body is raising my temps or the Progesterone Cream. I suppose it doesn't matter at this point because I'm not stopping the cream unless AF comes or I'm for sure past my TWW and not preggers. I did just have a swipe of red spotting, so that makes me unhappy, but I'm going to try to go back to bed, sleep this sickness off, and have a good day. That's the plan! Be back on later!

Fngrs- Woo hoo for O coming on time again!

Stacey- I was thinking maybe that first high temp is throwing things off. I bet once you get a few more temps in there, your chart will look lovely!

 

[L.E.]

Makes me nervous because of that smiley I had 2 days ago. I guess if yesterday was O day, it just wasn't in the cards for me to conceive this cycle.

 

[staceyj83]

oh i see now lol only dry time i have is a day or two before af comes my cm has always been fine i put in a fake for tomorrow and it gave me an egg on monday ill have to redo my setting woohoo get the eggy

 

[FngrsCrossed]

97.72 today I don't feel feverish and the NyQuil should've taken care of that if I was. I don't know if my body is raising my temps or the Progesterone Cream. I suppose it doesn't matter at this point because I'm not stopping the cream unless AF comes or I'm for sure past my TWW and not preggers. I did just have a swipe of red spotting, so that makes me unhappy, but I'm going to try to go back to bed, sleep this sickness off, and have a good day. That's the plan! Be back on later!

Fngrs- Woo hoo for O coming on time again!

Stacey- I was thinking maybe that first high temp is throwing things off. I bet once you get a few more temps in there, your chart will look lovely!

Ok so either that was ovulation yesterday or you are in the 2ww for sure! YEP keep the progesterone cream going!!! It has to be doing something good. hopefully the spotting goes away. I am still thinking that you did ovulate this cycle. That smiley has to be real!!!!

 

[L.E.]

Well if FF is right, I'll be thrilled and will definitely do the Soy again if I start a new cycle. If it's wrong or takes away my cross-hairs I'm going to be really bummed, especially since it's delaying me calling for the Provera.

I can't even fathom Oing with all the spotting and bleeding and on CD14 or 15.... Plus my opks, body, temps, FF, and TCOYF disagree with each other.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Sometimes they do disagree. TCOYF says that ovulation is today for me, FF (if my temps remain high) says that it was yesterday. The only way they will agree that today is my ovulation day is if my thermal shift is is the really high (really high for me) 97's. And I will only know for sure if they are in agreement when I am 4dpo. depending on my temps the ovulation day can change on FF from 13 to 14. I am hoping that my temps stay elevated and I really did ovulate.

So you aren't the only one that's getting conflicting charts. Which one do you trust more, FF or TCOYF?

 

[L.E.]

Honestly I trust FF more. That's the one I put everything in for. TCOYF is the free version and FF is the VIP version. I find FF to be a lot less confusing. TCOYF I only put temps in and I was putting in bleeding and spotting, but I took that out so it's just reading temps. I had it set to adjust my temps, then took that away to see if it made a difference. It doesn't matter, it won't give me cross-hairs or a cover line. I don't know if being sick has made my temps off or not. Yesterday when I got the lower temp I know for sure I had been running a fever up until at least 4 or 5 hrs before I tested. Took NyQuil at 5 a.m. and last night I took it at 3:30 a.m. so maybe it had worn off (but I didn't feel hot at all so I was really surprised by the high temp).

I wouldn't be worried if TCOYF and FF were disagreeing by a day or two, because I know FF keeps changing my O date back and forth between the 31st and the 1st. I did just spend a lot of time going over my TCOYF chart. They were excluding my last "cycle" from my data. I'm not convinced that this was really a new cycle anyway because of not ovulating and the bleeding/spotting, so I took off all days of "menses" and merged the charts to see what it would do. One good thing is that now both charts are giving me a 97.4 cover line, so at least they agree on something. I can't believe TCOYF was completely disregarding a full month of temping and just going based off of Jan's cycle length. I do think the 97.4 sounds right for the cover-line. Yesterday FF had it at 96.9 and I wasn't sure how that got figured.

With all that said, and that I do trust FF more, I'm still not convinced I O'd, so I can't blame TCOYF for not being convinced either. It just stinks to finally be getting cross-hairs after 9 weeks of temping and not be sure if you can believe them.