Pregnancy after our preemies support thread!

[mummy3]

Sb, yeah they keep putting the bloody things in my hip bone nice bruise it causes, she managed yesterdays pretty well though!

Nkbapbt, I think you really should go to a high risk specialist, I don't know how it works in Canada, but here you can get your regular ob and then a high risk doctor at the perinatologist. Definately try and get the progesterone, am I right in understanding that both UK and Canada are doing trials? Here you just get the straight progesterone not a placebo, so seems odd. I'm not sure about the stitch either, my cervix shortened when I had the contractions 4 weeks ago but they didn't do a stitc as like you said it wasn't IC. I guess best way would be more monitoring if you get contractions then checking instead of risking infection? Either way you should be getting very regular checkups!

O/t ladies but my 3 year old son has an endocrinologist appointment today with a specialist in stature at the big children's hospital, we are really hoping to get more answers on the cause of his dwarfism, 24th january he sees a geneticist also We've been trying to get answers for so long. He's 3, has a bone age of 10m, broke his leg just walking down the road and dropped his centiles from 98th at birth to under second now. He also has kidney problems and takes daily antibiotics so its very confusing!

 

[Lianne1986]

good luck at ur sons appointment 2day mummy3 x

 

[AP]

Happy new year girls!

 

[Lianne1986]

happy new year.

*whistling & tapping my foot* - bump pic?

 

[AP]

oh aye.....
i'll try....

 

[mummy3]

Happy new year

I'll try put a bump pic..

 

[Lianne1986]

mummy3 ur bump is so cute! xxx

do u know if ur or ?

 

[mummy3]

Lianne, we're team pink, she'll be called Eilidh Do you know what team you are on and have names?

 

[you&me]

Happy New Year Everyone

 

[Lianne1986]

Lianne, we're team pink, she'll be called Eilidh Do you know what team you are on and have names?

we are on team hes called Jaiden

 

[Sherri81]

Happy New Years everyone!!

Have a Drs appointment tomorrow. Hopefully I hear soon about my cerclage...

I don't know what you can do about your Drs. It seems none of the Drs in BC are on the same page. I was told by the MFM's in Vancouver that there are no trials in BC right now with P17 shots, because I asked for them. I think you need to find a new OB. Just ask your GP for a referral to a different one, because I wouldn't feel comfortable with the OB you have right now. It doesn't really seem like she is willing to do anything, and no prenatal blood work until 18 weeks?? That's preposterous! I have never heard a Dr say this before. You get one between 11 and 13+6 weeks, and another one between 15-17 weeks. They combine your resuls and give you your chances of the baby having a chromosomal abnormality.

Get a new OB ASAP.

 

[AP]

Good luck for tomorrow sherri.
Olivias mum I see you lurking, how r. Doing babe?

 

[mummy3]

Lianne, Jaiden is a really cute name!

Sherri, good luck for tomorrow I hope you get somewhere

I've been really busy here, hubby managed to get appendicitis so he had to have surgery yesterday, so now have 3 kids and him to take care of

 

[Sherri81]

I am just really hoping for some good news tomorrow. I had some crazy bad dreams last night, which have me really freaked out. I don't know if I can paste them here, as I cut them from my other thread, but if I can't get them posted here, check out Huggle's Journal, last page, in the Still birth and NeoNatal Loss section.

Apparently I got them pasted, lol.


I had some really weird dreams last night. And they really freaked me out, because it was like they just weren't stopping. And then it has me worried about this baby, because I have felt little whirrings from it every now and then for almost every day for the past few days... and so far, there is nothing today. I keep trying to remind myself that I won't feel something every day since it is still so small, and I remember seeing Devon at 12 weeks flipping out inside, and I didn't feel anything then, so I keep trying to stay positive thinking like that.

But anyways, here are some of the bits of the dreams that just kept melding into other dreams, and you tell me how freaky you think they are.

So in the first one, there was some kind of party going on. Maybe it was my house, maybe it wasn't. But I know I was chauferring everyone to this party. And then when we got to wherever it was we were going, I remembered that I hadn't actually buried Devon, and I hadn't cremated her. Instead, I had had her mounted like a trophy. Don't ask my why I had forgotten this. So I had had her mounted on a wooden trophy background, and there was a breass plaque there telling who she was etc, and I think there were bronze baby booties on it as well. Anyways, this plaque was mounted on the wall at the bottom of the stairs. So it must have been our house, because when you go down our stairs into the basement, its not so much as a wall, but more like the end of the supporting wall there, which is where our smoke alarm is... on this 6 inch end wall. Well, that was where the plaque was. And I looked up, and Devon had shrivelled and turned brown. She was about 12 inches long when she was born, and now she was 4 inches maybe, and was all shrivelled and brown, and her head was disproportionately large, and it looked like the weight of it was going to make it fall off of her body. And it horrified me that I would have been so neglectful of my own baby, and even forgotten where I had put her, and that I had let her fall into such disrepair. But I was too horrified to do anything about it myself, so I kept running around the party trying to get people to fix her head; to take the plaque down and secure her head before it fell off. And no one would do it.

Then I just remember being at a Drs office downtown and I was going into a full on psychotic break. And they were all worried about me because I was pregnant again. So they were trying to calm me down and I ran out of there before they could commit me.

Then I was in the basement of this townhouse I lived in when I was 9. And I was with my dad. And I had actually kept Devon in our deep freeze in the basement after she died. And she looked exactly how she did after she had been frozen in real life. And I took her out to hold her like a doll, all in front of my dad. And then I swear to God, she started scratching her head. And I yelled at my dad to look, and that Devon was alive, and there had been a huge mistake. And when he looked, she was just lying there like before, obviously. So then my dad said that it wasn't Devon, it was actually the new baby that was scratching its head. And I said, well how do you know. And he said 'remember, we saw it on the ultrasound earlier today.' And suddenly I had an image of a baby on an ultrasound scratching its head. And it made sense. So I went to put Devon back in the freezer, when suddenly she did come to life and she said she was going to kill me for giving up on her and letting her die. And she said she was going to kill the new baby too.

And that's when I woke up.

So yeah, you try to figure that out and tell me not to be freaked about this new baby. Doesn't help that I can't tell anyone about it in real life and get feedback, because Ian hates it when I tell him about my dreams, and my parents don't want to hear about Devon anymore, and most of my friends don't even know I'm pregnant again. So I kind of need feedback as soon as you girls can do that.

 

[nkbapbt]

Sherri - Please don't take this the wrong way, I only ask out of curiosity...but did any of the doctors you have seen tell you to wait 18 months before getting pregnant again? I just ask because it's a widely known, told, researched point. That regardless of cause of your premature deliveries that this amount of time can lower your chances of a repeat premature delivery.

I just ask because we are both in BC and as you've said the doctors vary so much. I basically had it scared into me by every single doctor I spoke too, and since you mentioned how much they are all over the book if this was the case for you as well?

I don't know how much weight I put into as I know plenty of preemie moms who have exact reasons for premature deliveries and ones who have no idea...and they didn't not wait and have gone on to have full term babies or at least later gest age preemies.

 

[AP]

Nic, I only read that on the net once, but no-one ever told me that personally. In fact no one said anything, it would have been nice for a doc to sit down and say , "look, here's the research and what you should do" ykwim? How are you getting on anyways? Have you had scans yet? Xxxx

Lianne, especially for you....

https://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx359/alexsmall/8d99a040.png

 

[Lottie86]

Sandi: I am *SOOOOOO* jealous of your bump! Mine was about half that size at 35 weeks!

Nic: I was never told that either about waiting at least 18 months before trying after having a prem.

Sherri: I know my situation is totally different and I cannot begin to imagine the stress you must be going through but I wonder if the horrible dreams are just our bodies way of dealing with the stress/upset we feel over our current pregnancies/issues with previous pregnancies.
I've had several dreams recently which whilst all different have all had the common theme that this baby has heart and brain issues. Really freaked me out as the dreams were so real, I woke up in a huge panic. Doesn't help when I already have a horrible gut feeling that something is not right with the bump.

I have got everything crossed for you that this pregnancy has a happy ending for you

 

[Sherri81]

Well, we managed to get to the OB despite a 12 inch snow fall overnight. The baby is fine. Measuring 12+2 and was sleeping. So it woke up a bit and streched, but that was it.

I think the dreams are just a way for my body to help figure things out. But it doesn't make me feel any better, if you know what I mean, lol.

I was never told to wait 18 months, and I have seen quite a few Drs. After delivering Greg, my GP said he would be happy if I got pregnant right away. He said he would have no problem with it. Then after the loss of #4, she wanted me to get pregnant right away, which led to #5, which was lost at 13+1. Then she wanted me to wait for testing to come in, but that was the only reason she wanted me to wait. Then there was #6 which was just a chemical/early miscarriage. And we were asked to wait for more testing. Then there was Devon, and after her, the Dr said whenever I felt mentally able to, we could try again. She didn't say to wait any length of time, and she also said I might conceive faster and easier if we tried sooner after a delivery or miscarriage. Which must have been right, as you can see it was only like 2 months later when I conceived this one.

So I was never told to wait, and in fact, I was under the impression that that line of reasoning was debunked in the 80's at the latest.

 

[nkbapbt]

It doesn't seem as though it was debunked. All I know is so many doctors have said it to me, but the "catch" is it was not said until I said I wasn't trying to have anymore kids for at least another two years (this was right after I had Lakai).

One of my dad's relatives from the US is a fetal researcher who primarily studies preterm births (because he was born preterm weighing under 2lbs but I do not know his gest age?) and maternal fetal medicine.

This next part is extremely graphic so I am going to put a spoiler on it (talks about animal experiments something I am against..but none the less)

Spoiler

Some of the research he took part in basically induced preterm labor in Chimpanzees, and found about 68% when left to carry a baby to term within 12 months of an induced preterm birth (it has to be induced because animals usually do not deliver preterm and when they do it's a stillborn baby usually) had a natural preterm birth.

Clearly I totally know this is not the same as humans but I did find it interesting. I have all the research papers on it here at home, but no scanner. If anyone is terribly interested I will scan it at printing place though.

I also have several research papers he sent me on studies performed all over the world regarding this topic, and they are from the last 2-4 years.

But who knows. I personally find medical research can be found for any side of a debate or point you want to make. I found have founds so many that say preemies with Grade I IVH's have no lasting affects, and yet talk to mom's of these preemies that are sure their kids have affects from it. Some as serious as CP (and there is no other factors that could be causing the CP or other issues they face).

I was just curious. I see it brought up a lot on USA based sites, and brought up in topics by mom's who live in the US. So either they are behind...right on...or who knows!?

I am of the school of thought, if it's going to happen...well there isn't much that can be done to stop it.

GREAT bump Sandi!! You look awesome!

 

[Lianne1986]

ur bump is so cute sandi. Love ur hair too btw. hows the pelvis pain now? x