Question from ttc: i'm losing normal babies :-(

[filipenko32]

Hi ladies,

Sorry to be posting bad news on the 3rd tri forum but I'm a bit desperate! I have just found out that my last loss was a normal male fetus at nearly 9 weeks and I'm pretty devastated to now learn that it therefore must be my body rejecting the babies. My doctor thinks that at least 2 out of the 3 were normal. I'm a really healthy person and have had loads of blood tests but nothing has really come up aside from a possible blood clotting problem. My question is, is there anyone here who has been successful after losses by taking some form of medicine? Has anyone ever had their fetus diagnosed as chromosomally normal after a loss and what did you do? Thanks everyone

 

[xdxxtx]

I'm not a lady, but I'll offer what little advice I may have. First off, I really hope that your dream comes true and that you are finally able to have your baby. I know how hard it is to feel like there must be something wrong with you that is making this impossible. Many people try taking a baby aspirin every day during pregnancy in order to keep their blood thinned for the baby and that proves successful. Also, is your doctor tracking your progesterone levels? Many people don't produce enough progesterone during pregnancy to keep it going. They're put on progesterone supplements and SHOULD be on them as soon as they get a BFP.

Are you going to a fertility doctor or a regular OBGYN? Finding someone who specializes especially in fertility should have the most information about what is causing these losses and how to keep a pregnancy.

 

[TiffanyF]

Aww i'm sorry hun I've heard if its a blood clotting issue, taking 1 baby aspirin twice a day has helped people carry to term. Baby aspirin is harmless so might as well try it. Theres lots of people that have multiple losses to go on the carry healthy babies to term. Good luck

 

[Daisy1986]

Wishing you all the luck in the world. I was taking flax seed oil and cut out all alcohol and caffeine if that's any help. Good luck!! xxxxxxxxxx

 

[NicolaWynne]

Take zinc supplements x x

 

[filipenko32]

Thanks everyone, I don't drink, smoke, drink any caffiene or anything. I do have a regular miscarriage specialist looking after me but I suppose I just want some reassurance and success stories. It's scary to know your own body is rejecting the fetuses!

 

[Cuffy]

I would look into immune testing there is a really good place in London that specialise in ladies that can conceive but not carry. My problem was the other way round so I can't help much but would like to wish you all the very best xx

 

[roseyblossom]

Sorry to hear about your loss. Like others have suggested you should discuss with your doctor about taking baby aspirin to stop blood clotting and so that you can carry the babies to full term. Some women do have the same problem as you where their bodies were rejecting the fetuses but there are successful stories with it too. I don't know if this would help much but you can try taking black seed oil for like a month (warning it tastes horrible) and then 1 month later you can start trying to conceive again. Just don't try while taking the oil however because it can induce contractions. The benefit of the oil is that it can bring balance in the body and its scientifically proven to help with many problems esp fertility ones over the years. Hope this helps. xx

 

[sailorgirl1]

I'd go private if you can afford and get some tests done. I've read a lot about progesterone too. Fingers crossed for you xxxx

 

[Sweetk1]

My friend last 2 babies because of sticky blood syndrome... Not sure if that's the blood clotting issue, anyway after treatment she has gone on to have2 healthy babies.
Best of luck.

 

[Sealgirl]

Hey filipenko, sorry to hear about this. It must be devastating for you.

The poster who was talking about progesterone, I would second. I don't know much about this, but when I was in the recurrent miscarriage thread, that seemed to be one that caused ladies to lose otherwise healthy babies. And when they got the treatment they needed, they went on to have successful pregnancies. (I can't speak for all of those ladies, but I did read a good few success stories).

The other one obviously is the sticky blood, bloody clotting disorder. I don't think baby asprin is enough to ensure the pregnancy is healthy, there is an injection, called clexane (might be other names too, I'm sure) which you would have to inject every day throughout the pregnancy. I know someone personally who lost two babies because of this, then went on to have two successful pregnancies with the clexane.

Also my midwife told me that even if all your tests come back and there is nothing wrong, these tests should be repeated when you are actually pregnant, because your blood changes and if you didn't have the blood clotting disorder, you may have it when pregnant.

My losses were chromosonal, so thats about the limit of my knowledge, however, I was told by a consultant to take baby asprin anyway as it makes the placenta and blood work that bit harder. So I'm sticking to it until I'm 36 weeks. When I was in the hospital recently another consultant questioned me on why I was taking it at all and did not believe in its benefits.

There is such limited knowledge when it comes to miscarriage.

If you do have the blood clotting problem, what have they said they will do? xx

 

[NicolaWynne]

https://www.babycenter.com/0_zinc-in-your-pregnancy-diet_673.bc

Heres a link about zinc in pregnancy, it says there have been studies to show a deficiency can cause miscarriage- its worth a shot i guess, no harm in trying! Good luck x x x

Ps- sorry i cant be much help, thats the only thing i know can help x x

 

[filipenko32]

Hi sealgirl! :wave: I tried just clexane and progesterone last time but it was obviously not enough! I think this time I will double the doses. How you doing!? x x x

 

[Sealgirl]

Aw, you've already tried it? Its a bit disheartening isn't it when the medics tell you to just keep "trying" and when you get your BFP, you just need to keep experimenting with the medications and doses, but I so admire your positivity and the fact that you are being so brave through this - and if upping the dose is gonna help next time, then you go for it!

I'm doing great (still a nervous wreck!) but I'm getting closer. I'm hoping so much for you, that you get your good news. I'll be stalking you.... if that's ok hee hee x

 

[filipenko32]

Thanks sealgirl x x x

 

[jenniferttc1]

So sorry for you losses hun
Have the doctors talked about taking asprin for the blood clotting to help carry to full term?

 

[JackiePed]

It may not be 'your body rejecting' the fetuses... but just really rotten luck with fetuses that weren't viable for whatever reason.
I had two losses in a row before this one...and there was no explanation. All tests were normal. Doc did put me on progesterone supplements as a precaution with this third one that stuck... I'll never know if the progesterone really did it, or if it was just finally my time for good luck instead of bad luck... I really don't know.
All I know is I lost the first two for no reason, and I kept this one possibly due to progesterone, or possibly due to no explanation at all!
(I have carried both a boy and a girl to term previously, so I know it's not that strange disorder where I can't carry boys (plus this one's a boy).)

 

[filipenko32]

It may not be 'your body rejecting' the fetuses... but just really rotten luck with fetuses that weren't viable for whatever reason.
I had two losses in a row before this one...and there was no explanation. All tests were normal. Doc did put me on progesterone supplements as a precaution with this third one that stuck... I'll never know if the progesterone really did it, or if it was just finally my time for good luck instead of bad luck... I really don't know.
All I know is I lost the first two for no reason, and I kept this one possibly due to progesterone, or possibly due to no explanation at all!
(I have carried both a boy and a girl to term previously, so I know it's not that strange disorder where I can't carry boys (plus this one's a boy).)

Hi, thanks for posting. Do you mean there's another reason why the fetus might not be viable other than having abnormal chromosomes? The chromosome testing came back normal for this mc you see, it was a normal boy, so i'm not sure what else it could be other than my body rejecting them or the blood supply being cut off or something. I'm sorry you had to suffer 2mc's but glad you're successful now. Congratulations!!!

 

[Autumntx]

After having low levels of progesterone and being on supplements my entire pregnancy and having 2 friends miscarry due to low levels..I'm a firm believer that everyone should be checked. I've been blessed and am now in my third tri, but I would insist your dr check your levels immediately after a BFP.

 

[JackiePed]

It may not be 'your body rejecting' the fetuses... but just really rotten luck with fetuses that weren't viable for whatever reason.
I had two losses in a row before this one...and there was no explanation. All tests were normal. Doc did put me on progesterone supplements as a precaution with this third one that stuck... I'll never know if the progesterone really did it, or if it was just finally my time for good luck instead of bad luck... I really don't know.
All I know is I lost the first two for no reason, and I kept this one possibly due to progesterone, or possibly due to no explanation at all!
(I have carried both a boy and a girl to term previously, so I know it's not that strange disorder where I can't carry boys (plus this one's a boy).)

Hi, thanks for posting. Do you mean there's another reason why the fetus might not be viable other than having abnormal chromosomes? The chromosome testing came back normal for this mc you see, it was a normal boy, so i'm not sure what else it could be other than my body rejecting them or the blood supply being cut off or something. I'm sorry you had to suffer 2mc's but glad you're successful now. Congratulations!!!

Yes... aside from hormonal issues which they may have already tested you for, it can often be something as 'simple' as the egg not properly implanting all the way, which would prevent full growth at some point...which seems like it would happen sooner rather than later, but the implantation process is something that's ongoing through part of the first trimester, not just that 'one day' that you may get implantation bleeding.

There are lots of women I've seen on this board, including me, who have had absolutely no abnormal tests but still lost multiple pregnancies... who then went on to have healthy pregnancies.

I know that doesn't totally help... because there is no magic crystal ball to tell you when it's your turn. It's heartbreaking... and it's such a feeling of being robbed. Robbed of that simple joy that someone who's never experienced a loss gets when they find out they're pregnant, where they jump up and down and tell the whole world.
Those of us who experience loss don't get that simple joy, and it sucks. Instead, first tri is full of fear and sometimes darkness or depression... an unwillingness to get your hopes up... and a terrifying 3-4 months.

The good news is, though I thought that the fear would NEVER go away (because now I know that 'things happen' to me, too)... I can say that the fear did subside significantly. And I did (and do) finally get to experience joy and excitement.

Your turn will come. I'm sorry for your losses, and for the shadow over pregnancy that comes with them... it does get better.