Recurrent Miscarriage Thread

[NDH]

After my third mc I asked my Dr to test my thyroid and for mthfr. She spent a while looking on her computer database thingy and said she had no clue what that was, and that my tab had been normal at my initial bloodwork for the pregnancy so didn't warrant further looking into I was not impressed. I still havent managed to find a Dr willing to dona full thyroid panel with my tsh being within normal range, but my naturopath (and my symptoms) say there is something wrong with my thyroid. And the mthfr test isn't covered by medicare so I would be out of pocket $300 so I haven't been tested yet. Though just in case it is an issue for me I did switch my vitamins as it certainly can't hurt.
Something seems to be helping though.

 

[pinkpassion]

I also make sure to take only folate.. and I will probably start baby aspirin too after my results come in, just in case!!!

 

[blueblue]

Squig - I had the homocysteine test to check whether there was a MTHFR issue, privately, it was via Blue Horizon medical, and I had to go to a Spire hospital to have it done, it's now £124. High homocysteine is linked to blood clotting. This test doesn't tell you if you are MTHFR, only if it is causing high homocysteine.

https://privatebloodtests.co.uk/epages/www_privatebloodtests_co_uk.sf/en_GB/?ObjectID=2437585

 

[MrsWhite]

Hello ladies, new here to this thread. I have been reading some of the thread but as it is quite extensive it is difficult to follow each person's path, etc. I have a few questions I hope you can answer. I have two children, aged 2 and 4 so I know in the past I have been able to have healthy pregnancies. Back in November, I had been diagnosed with an anembryonic pregnancy (blighted ovum) at my 9.5 week scan. The doctor chalked it up to bad chromosomes, bad luck, and possibly lack of folic acid since it wasn't a planned pregnancy and stupid me hadn't been taking prenatal vitamins. Well fast forward to now, I had just started trying for my third child and we got pregnant first try (this time yes I had been taking prenatals for months and trying to eat healthy). I have 30-32 day cycles and I most likely ovulated on CD 18-19 (always have with previous pregnancies), and tested positive on CD 28, and again on a digital CD 35. Later that day on CD 35 I had one single brown spot in undies and started worrying, well it eventually led to full on bleed the next day (Saturday) and on Sunday I tested negative. So I lost the baby at exactly 5 weeks. Two totally different losses, but I have to think that it isn't coincidence to lose two in a row. Does anything stick out to any of you or raise a red flag as to what my issue might be? I have read about clotting issues, folic acid processing issues, bad ovarian reserve, etc. but to the best of my knowledge I have no issues and I am only 31.
Would it be bad to take baby aspirin as a precaution (though I think if I have clotting issues that alone won't help, right?), and what about taking prenatal with folate instead of folic acid (will that be detrimental if I don't have the MTHFR issue?). I don't know what to do, because I am sure my OBGYN won't do anything after two losses, especially since this last one won't be counted as "clinical" since it was so early, so they won't even see me as having two losses yet.
I am so sorry you all have gone through multiple losses. It is so devastating and scary to think about being pregnant again, surely takes the joy out of it doesn't it?

 

[Hope39]

Mrs white - sorry for your losses.

Most consultants put two losses down to possible bad luck so unfortunately they won't start testing you

Nothing jumps out at me to give any indication what your problem might be because there isnt really a Pattern to your losses

X

Xx

 

[MrsWhite]

I called the doctor and they have gotten me in to talk about things, we will see if they do anything but they mentioned intervention so I have high hopes. They said they also want hormone levels the day before my appointment, but I got the impression it was to check that my hCg was back to normal, but I already told them I had a negative urine test yesterday so not sure why they would want that. I'm hoping they are checking other things like my thyroid and whatever else would matter with miscarriage.

 

[laughingduck]

Hello ladies, new here to this thread. I have been reading some of the thread but as it is quite extensive it is difficult to follow each person's path, etc. I have a few questions I hope you can answer. I have two children, aged 2 and 4 so I know in the past I have been able to have healthy pregnancies. Back in November, I had been diagnosed with an anembryonic pregnancy (blighted ovum) at my 9.5 week scan. The doctor chalked it up to bad chromosomes, bad luck, and possibly lack of folic acid since it wasn't a planned pregnancy and stupid me hadn't been taking prenatal vitamins. Well fast forward to now, I had just started trying for my third child and we got pregnant first try (this time yes I had been taking prenatals for months and trying to eat healthy). I have 30-32 day cycles and I most likely ovulated on CD 18-19 (always have with previous pregnancies), and tested positive on CD 28, and again on a digital CD 35. Later that day on CD 35 I had one single brown spot in undies and started worrying, well it eventually led to full on bleed the next day (Saturday) and on Sunday I tested negative. So I lost the baby at exactly 5 weeks. Two totally different losses, but I have to think that it isn't coincidence to lose two in a row. Does anything stick out to any of you or raise a red flag as to what my issue might be? I have read about clotting issues, folic acid processing issues, bad ovarian reserve, etc. but to the best of my knowledge I have no issues and I am only 31.
Would it be bad to take baby aspirin as a precaution (though I think if I have clotting issues that alone won't help, right?), and what about taking prenatal with folate instead of folic acid (will that be detrimental if I don't have the MTHFR issue?). I don't know what to do, because I am sure my OBGYN won't do anything after two losses, especially since this last one won't be counted as "clinical" since it was so early, so they won't even see me as having two losses yet.
I am so sorry you all have gone through multiple losses. It is so devastating and scary to think about being pregnant again, surely takes the joy out of it doesn't it?

Im so sorry for your losses. Taking folate instead of folic acid would not cause any problems if you arent MTHFR. Aspirin is a but controversial. Here are some studies on it https://sites.google.com/site/miscarriageresearch/supplements-and-miscarriage/aspirin I love this site, it's just a compilation of studies about miscarriage, and some ideas of what can help.

Hopefully it was just "bad luck" for you and the next pregnancy you get your rainbow

 

[Squig34]

Duck, that site looks fabulous! I know you didn't post it for me, but thank you anyway - I need to look properly when I'm on my computer instead of my phone. But I take Omega oils & will be on aspirin in my next pregnancy, so it has given me a lot of reassurance as my losses are all unexplained although it appears I have a blood clotting issue, despite normal results in tests.

 

[caz_hills]

Hi ladies,
I'm back in the miscarriage forum we had our twelve week scan yesterday and we have had our second miscarriage in 11 months. The hsopital have advised that I need to be rescanned next Tuesday then they can confirm the miscarriage but hopes are very low. They have advised us it is unlikely.
Sitting on the sofa, I can't concentrate on anything. My in laws are looking after our four year old boy as I was due to be at work. I can't think about anything. Feel like there is a knot in my chest. It's crappy.

 

[laughingduck]

Im so so sorry caz . Fingers crossed you will get better news next week, but sounds like you need to prepare yourself for the worst. Its just awful but you have lots of support here. I hope they figure out the cause and you have your rainbow baby soon.

 

[laughingduck]

Duck, that site looks fabulous! I know you didn't post it for me, but thank you anyway - I need to look properly when I'm on my computer instead of my phone. But I take Omega oils & will be on aspirin in my next pregnancy, so it has given me a lot of reassurance as my losses are all unexplained although it appears I have a blood clotting issue, despite normal results in tests.

Yes it's a great site. It has so much info. I started taking NAC because of the studies. Hopes it helps!

 

[BABTTC123]

Hi ladies..
I hope it is okay if I join because I really need a place to vent where I don't feel like I'm complaining too much...
I try to stay away from the subject of my miscarriages because #1 they were both fairly early and #2 I feel like people would be bothered by me talking about it.
My last one happened in March of this year. You'd think that I'D be over it by now but on the contrary I have actually gotten worst with each passing month.
My Facebook has been blown up with pregnancy announcements all year and now it's getting worst. Two girls that I had gone to school with recently had miscarriages. I had hoped to reach out to them and let them know I was here to listen but they didn't seem too interested in talking to me. I know it is wrong of me to think this since everyone handles these in their own way, but I feel like they are only posting so much about it for attention. When I had mine it took a while for me to say anything about it. Partly because I was waiting to announce and never got to do so, but also because I didn't want to feel like I was seeking attention or pity from friends and family. When I did finally come out about it very few bothered with acknowledging it so I just buried the pain inside once again.
I took clomid again in July and did not conceive and then took a break this month because I was too afraid of disappointment. I took opk'S around my O date and noticed that I was getting close and did ovulate. My husband and I had bd enough before and on O day so of course my hopes started to rise when I thought about the possibility of being pregnant. My doctor had ordered that I take prometrium on cd 17 so I have been taking it religiously since then. I am 9 dpo now and prior to this had lots of symptoms but today they have all gone away. I went ahead and tested to see a bfn and then broke down. After all these months I have finally completely broken down about my miscarriages. I have only really complained about it on this site but have shed few tears. I know that it is only two early miscarriages, but it really does hurt and I can't understand why God doesn't want me to have a baby but will let druggies have them and abuse or neglect them
Idk... I guess I still feel like I'm complaining too much. What I would really like is for one of my friends to listen and be there for me but I just feel like an annoyance when I try so I shut up quickly.

I guess to change the subject a bit, do any of you suffer from pcos?
And how long did it take to finally have your rainbow?
I'm feeling like it will never happen and Google doesn't answer everything lol..

 

[Squig34]

Caz & BAB, sorry to hear of your losses.

BAB, 9DPO is still so early, you might not be out yet but it's true that progesterone can create symptoms mimicking early pregnancy. I follow 2 girls with PCOS on here who are both pregnant with rainbows & at least one other girl with PCOS who had a baby earlier this year. So it's definitely possible; try not to lose hope. It is hard, I know.

 

[Floralaura]

Hi, sadly im new here ��
Currently going through my 2nd miscarriage in 3 months, one in may at 7+2 and this week at 9+3.
I have had 3 successful pregnancies prior to these though, 2 with the same parter I have now.
EPU said they don't do anyhung until 3+ losses but I want to help myself if possible so should I get a bfp again what can I take that I don't need a Dr for?
Asprin is on my lost and I have higher dose folic acid as my bmi is 30 so was give it already and pregnancy vitamins too
Other than those is there anything? Can the progesterone that you buy in health shops help?
The mc in may we didn't see a HB as had no scan, this time we saw a HB at 6+6 so we do get the baby and it's getting a HB but then a scan on this Monday after spotting started on day morning showed baby had no HB and was back to measuring 6 weeks rather than the 9, though the sac was the right size. I really thought it would be ok this time, we saw a HB so that was that in my mind.
I has said if it went wrong this time that was the end and I wouldn't try again, I feel empty though and think I need to try again and the pain of not trying again versus the pain of it going wrong again is in some way wrote if that makes sense..So will take what ever can help and resume on my weightloss plan to get that further down too (though I am lighter now than in my 3 successful pregnancies so I don't think that'd what's causing them) x

 

[Hope39]

Floralaura - you can take 2000iui vit D and Omega 3 fish oils . There is no harm in trying the progesterone from the shops either

Good luck x

 

[pinkpassion]

Bab, you can vent here or in the miscarriage threads.. there is a lot of support here!! I would suggest though that if you have a close friend at home you tell them how important this is and that you need someone to listen! So many people keep quiet or ignore it because it makes them uncomfortable and they'd rather not deal with it, I think a lot of it has to do with not wanting to face that's an option especially if they are at child bearing age /trying or whatever!!!! But I'm so sorry that you are dealing with that.. I've dealt with it at every loss.. and life goes on for everyone else while you are stuck in your grief.. that's the way it goes!! I have found that hobbies help me focus on things to keep my mind busy!!

 

[BABTTC123]

Squid - thank you for the motivation I do know that it is possible for women with pcos, it is often just harder. One thing I need to get checked out as well, especially now that I have good insurance, is for autoimmune disorders since it is hereditary in my family. My obgyn did a basic blood panel but my sister said that she had to find a specialist to finally find out what was wrong with her. Hopefully whatever is wrong can be solved soon enough.

Floral aura - I'm so sorry to hear about your losses
I take prescribed progesterone and any progesterone during your cycle, after ovulation, will certainly help a baby along and help it become a sticky bean!
I've heard that taking too much folic acid can actually be counter productive, so unless your doctor determines that you need more then I would just stick to the amount that comes in prenatal vitamins.
I've also heard that baby aspirin is pretty common to take and help thin the uterine lining if it is too thick

Pink passion - thank you and I had tried talking to my two closest friends but they don't seem to be comfortable talking about it or they will try to brush it off as not being that big of a deal. So I haven't really brought it up since.
I try to focus on work to keep me distracted as much as possible. Otherwise it's been hard for me stay focused on any projects I try to start at home lol just today I think I found a bit of an out, as crappy as it may be xD my husband just lost his job, I'm not too sad because I used to work for the company as well and found out how crooked they are and have loads of dirt on them that l&i will love. Anyways, I am helping him job hunt and build a perfect resume and cover letter. He already has an interview tomorrow! So that is a promising start to his job hunt ^_^

 

[Curlymikes]

Babttc123 i wanted to encourage you! I have PCOS, had 2 miscarriages and 1 CP but now i have 4 month old twins! I was wondering if it would ever happen too. I took a baby aspirin, 1000mg meformin and a prenatal throughout my pregnancy. Oh and i took 50mg of clomid to get pregnant. I was told when i was diagnosed at 16 with PCOS that i probably would never even get pregnant. I feel so blessed with my babies. I hope you get your rainbow soon!

 

[dairymomma]

BAB-I'm sorry for your losses. I know how hard it is to go through rmc and have everyone and their sister suddenly expecting. (I've had 10 losses total and am still undiagnosed.)

As for your questions, I don't have PCOS but it took me 1.5 years (and 3 losses) before I had my first rainbow, 2 years (1 blighted ovum between) to have my second rainbow, and 3 years (4 losses in that time) to have my 3rd rainbow. I've had 2 more losses since LO was born and since she just turned one and I'm not currently pg, it'll be at least 2 years (most likely longer as I'm waiting on test results and need to look into more testing after this) til my next rainbow.

 

[Dana_Scully]

Hi girls! Can I join you? I just had my second MC in a row this summer. I also had an MMC before having my son. I'm now trying to find a specialist to know what's going on with me. I get pregnant really quickly, like one or two cycles but I lose my babies early on. I don't know if it's genetic problems or maybe my lining? I know I have a tilted uterus but the doctors say it doesn't matter.