'Reins' for a toddler 'cruel' ????!!!

Even if they are used to help safe a tot from falling its better than their arm being yanked, that has been known to dislocate joints.

That's why im not too keen on the strap springy ones that go round the wrist, my nephew had one and hurt his arm as he went to run forward and it pulled his arm barckwards.
 
I think they're great for keeping toddlers safe by the road or in busy places to stop them running off into danger. They saved me a lot of stress as Isla was a terrible one for darting off.

One thing I do dislike though is when they're used as a walking aid for toddlers that only just start walking. FIL kept trying to put them on Isla in the garden to try and would then yank her back up with the reins when she was falling. Toddlers need to learn how to fall safely so reins aren't meant for this purpose and also it just looks horrible and uncomfortable when they're yanked about by reins or held upright by them.

Unless you have a child like mine that thinks this is hilarious and spends most of his time swinging from them shouting weeeee :) one of the main reasons I stoped using them as he kept pulling me other or dropping to his knees pretending to be a mouse.
 
I think it is completely backwards that anyone would ever think them cruel. They can and do save lives. And I say that as someone who isn't that keen on them personally.

I think my aversion comes front the fact they seem so overused here (**disclaimer, I know most mothers use them sensibly and teach road safety with just using the reins as extra security JUST IN CASE... So this this just what I have seen here and not a claim all mothers are like this... At all). Like I will see toddlers Fins age now pulling their parents along by them, not holding hands to cross roads, being held back from constantly running off with them, being held up by them while having a floppy tantrum etc. I've seen children arrive at a play park, be released and literally bolt and run straight away as soon as they are unclipped.

I've been to a farm park, which was completely child safe in the petting fields, and been the ONLY parent there with a toddler walking free. All the others on open grass with no roads or falls or hazards anywhere close by... On reins. Being stopped from running, playing, exploring, experiencing what takes THEIR interest etc in what is probably THE safest place to do so. If you can't let your toddler run free in a field then when the heck can you? Incidentally despite there being big signs up to pet and feed the animals by picking weeds etc from the wildgrass area AND hand washing places signposted AND sanitizer avail regularly... All the children were being prevented from going anywhere near an animal (in pens)... All being told they will bite or give germs. Fin was there in his wellies, tramping about, going up to whatever he wanted to experience at that moment, picking clover flowers and hand feeding the goats with such glee and it just felt so odd that all of these other kids were being kept from experiencing things the same.

I've been at a play park and seen a toddler on the swings... With one parent pushing and the other holding the strap from the little life backpack. That made no sense. The same parents held it when the kid went on EVERYTHING. I get hovering, I really do. But surely holding a rein tight while your toddler goes down a pretty small slide is creating more risk than what it could possibly prevent?

So, to conclude. They are absolutely NOT cruel. We do not use them, but that was a personal choice and as a SAHM I did have the time on every walk to wait while he sniffed every flower and picked up every stick etc and to turn around and go home if he refused to hold my hand or listen etc. If I had places to be, had to get us to nursery etc with a deadline etc, maybe I would have used them too. It could have also have been that we lucked out with Fin and that Amelia is too strong headed to use the same approach with when I need to have my eyes on too. Maybe I will need one for her at she point. I will never rule them out, they absolutely have their place and can be wonderful... But certainly here they seem to be overused. Sometimes it does seem that using reins has been done instead of tackling behaviour issues head on. Sometimes it seems they have been used in a way that the child hasn't learnt boundaries or road safety and when let off them they are at real risk of just running out into a road unaware of the risk as it has never been taught. Sometimes kids seem to be in them when there truly seems no need to be.

Some people mis-use them as they can so many other tools and things and that is a bad thing. But they are still not at all cruel. Xx
 
Are reins a UK thing? I've never seen those here.
 
My LO is 19 months old and has reins, he will sometimes scream if he's stuck in his pushchair but won't hold my hand at the moment so it's the only option really!
 
Even if they are used to help safe a tot from falling its better than their arm being yanked, that has been known to dislocate joints.
 
Honesty? I never yank their arms. If I can catch them, I will... But also at think there is a lot to learn from falling so if I cannot catch them then I will just kiss away any booboos and sing away any ouchies. I don't think pulling (lets me honest though, it can also be the same as a yank) back their shoulders suddenly with reins or yanking their arm is ideal. Neither is better than the other in my view. Learning themselves from the tumble and a grazed knee is what I would prefer every time xxx
 
Run out in street, get run over and killed. Be critized by other parents. I'll take number two.

I've never used them but see why they're useful.
 
Can I just add for those who think their LO will never run onto the road. I as a small child was walking happily with mum. A road worker started up a pneumatic drill. I got a fright and bolted, before mum could do anything, a kind elderly gent in a tweed jacket came and got me.

I must have been 3 possiblely 4 as I can remember the incident. But at the stage of being too old for reins.
 
Well said Kitty! I don't recall seeing them very often back at home. I was a nanny for years and never used them nor did any of the other Mom's we met in baby groups. I think we're lucky that our LO is quite laid back and we don't have huge battles every time we go for a walk to force him to hold our hands. Maybe in a year's time, he'll be a different story. Maybe another child will be a different story. For at the moment, for us, I feel we don't need it and don't choose to use it. For others, I'm sure it's a godsend and to each their own!
 
My 18month old thinks its funny to run everywhere at the minute so he wears a backpack with a strap attached to it that gos around my wrist. It doesn't control his movement much at all but it means that he can't dart off towards the road. It's also in a cute dinosaur design so he's happy to wear it at the minute as he knows it also contains a few snacks for when we are out and about.

I honestly don't know how anyone can think keeping control of your child, and for their own safety too, is cruel!
 
I saw the backpack ones today for the first time. They are really cute. If I never needed one in the future, that would be the route I would go down.
 
Jacob has the dinosaur backpack reins too :)
Theyre obviously not cruel.. Theres not much more to say on this subjet really!
 
We use the back packs too. Sorry, but very few 18 month - 3 year olds are going to understand road safety. My LO will nod when I talk to her about road safety, but seconds later she will have forgotten and will attempt to run into the road. If you live in a relatively quiet area with few cars, I can understand taking the risk, but if you live somewhere like London, there are plenty of dangerous obstacles around.
 
I've been at a play park and seen a toddler on the swings... With one parent pushing and the other holding the strap from the little life backpack. That made no sense. The same parents held it when the kid went on EVERYTHING. I get hovering, I really do. But surely holding a rein tight while your toddler goes down a pretty small slide is creating more risk than what it could possibly prevent?

Until you know why those parents are doing those things, it's not really right to judge. There could be any number of reasons why. We used what would look like ordinary reins when Abby was younger to basically keep her straight. Her low muscle tone meant on that "pretty small slide" she would fall backwards and thump her head off the slide. Using a harness we could keep her upright, the same was true when she went on EVERYTHING. (and on our visits to any child's attraction....) To all other parents I'm sure we looked like we were stopping our poor child from running free. These same parents would have thought (and indeed often commented) we were so cruel for having her in the buggy at 3 years old.

Maybe we should just have just kept her home and not subjected her to such cruel behaviour:dohh:
 
i have reins for LO. and i dont care what people think. lol that said, we do live in a small town and the town centre is totally off limits to cars, so i dont worry too much. i also would rather i taught LO how to be safe so if i can trust her (which i usually can) i wont use them.
that said, the last few days she thinks its a big game to try run into the road, and has been tugged back rather violently by me. so i may have to bring the reins back.

basically no. they arent cruel. i rather wouldnt use mine, but i know some toddlers are runners and cant be relied upon to listen and stay close. and if LO is ever like that, i will most definitely use the reins and nobody has the right to judge me on that :)
 
I've been at a play park and seen a toddler on the swings... With one parent pushing and the other holding the strap from the little life backpack. That made no sense. The same parents held it when the kid went on EVERYTHING. I get hovering, I really do. But surely holding a rein tight while your toddler goes down a pretty small slide is creating more risk than what it could possibly prevent?

Until you know why those parents are doing those things, it's not really right to judge. There could be any number of reasons why. We used what would look like ordinary reins when Abby was younger to basically keep her straight. Her low muscle tone meant on that "pretty small slide" she would fall backwards and thump her head off the slide. Using a harness we could keep her upright, the same was true when she went on EVERYTHING. (and on our visits to any child's attraction....) To all other parents I'm sure we looked like we were stopping our poor child from running free. These same parents would have thought (and indeed often commented) we were so cruel for having her in the buggy at 3 years old.

Maybe we should just have just kept her home and not subjected her to such cruel behaviour:dohh:

I did say repeatedly that I do not thing they are cruel at all, and I never intended to offend anyone, especially you Foo. You obviously did what was the absolute best thing for Abby and I take my hat off to you. I must say though that, while I do know that a lot of disabilities, illnesses and impairments won't be obvious... This child certainly appeared to have none. And it was a little life, not reins. I can't imagine a little life could be used as you did as they just don't seem reliable enough but I could be wrong. I didn't judge them, I just didn't get it. This child was running about, climbing, jumping, having full on conversations and seemed to have full mobility and I really just could not see any reason why the reins would be needed. But again, I do appreciate there could have been a lot more than met the eye. Again, I am sorry if I offended you or hit a nerve. It was absolutely not intentional, I was simply using this one of many scenarios here as an example xxx
 
I've got 18 month old twins, try keeping them both with you and safe without reins! Why don't they at least run in the same direction??

Must have for me ;)
 
I've been at a play park and seen a toddler on the swings... With one parent pushing and the other holding the strap from the little life backpack. That made no sense. The same parents held it when the kid went on EVERYTHING. I get hovering, I really do. But surely holding a rein tight while your toddler goes down a pretty small slide is creating more risk than what it could possibly prevent?

Until you know why those parents are doing those things, it's not really right to judge. There could be any number of reasons why. We used what would look like ordinary reins when Abby was younger to basically keep her straight. Her low muscle tone meant on that "pretty small slide" she would fall backwards and thump her head off the slide. Using a harness we could keep her upright, the same was true when she went on EVERYTHING. (and on our visits to any child's attraction....) To all other parents I'm sure we looked like we were stopping our poor child from running free. These same parents would have thought (and indeed often commented) we were so cruel for having her in the buggy at 3 years old.

Maybe we should just have just kept her home and not subjected her to such cruel behaviour:dohh:

I have a similer experience, being born with spina bifida I spent the first 5 years in a specialy adapted disability pushchair but I was stuburn.
I was able to walk but not far and had very weak ankles but was so independent that I refused to stay in the pushchair so my mum had these thick brown leather reins (I can actually still remember wearing them) so as to help me walk and she could take some of the weight of my legs and stop me falling so much.
I really believe if it wasn't for that it would have taken me a lot longer to build up the muscles in my legs and spine to be able to walk normaly because I would have spent most of my time in the buggy.
 

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