Semen Analysis results

[LLbean]

ok results are back and MORPHOLOGY WENT UP SIGNIFICANTLY!!!! everything else is pretty much the same but morphology went from 8.0 to 70.0!!!!!!!!

yes I do believe it was all the crap he was taking pre-work out that affected his numbers, and I am sure the Fertility Blend helped a TON too!!!!

The ultrasound showed two Varicoceles but apparently that is not enough to affect the sperm. So lets hope for July!

 

[luvmydoggies]

LLbean- those are awesome results!!! Wishing you a bfp- very soon!!!!

 

[LLbean]

I hope so!!!

We will meet with the urologist again on the 5th and see what he has to say...based on that we may go see the fertility specialist

 

[velo]

ok results are back and MORPHOLOGY WENT UP SIGNIFICANTLY!!!! everything else is pretty much the same but morphology went from 8.0 to 70.0!!!!!!!!

yes I do believe it was all the crap he was taking pre-work out that affected his numbers, and I am sure the Fertility Blend helped a TON too!!!!

The ultrasound showed two Varicoceles but apparently that is not enough to affect the sperm. So lets hope for July!

Awesome news!! for a BFP to come your way soon!

 

[Indigo77]

DH's morphology is 2%....

Now what?

 

[LLbean]

Indigo...don't give up My husband was at 8.0 and went up to 70.0

here is what I did...I took him off all those pre/post work out supplements, no caffeine, no alcohol, and made him take
Vitamin E (twice a day)
Vitamin C (twice a day)
Fertility Blend for men(GNC) (4 a day for the first month and then 2 per day)
Maca (twice a day)
Vitamin B complex (once per day)
Also Mucinex twice per day to help his Viscosity but that apparently did nothing as that remains the same

It took about 3 months BTW

 

[Macwooly]

Indigo

My DH was on the same mix to LLBean's - the only difference was mine didn't take mucinex but he did take co enzyme Q10 and royal jelly.

We didn't get given figures for my DH's morphology but his first SA was poor and his most recent was normal/good.

 

[Indigo77]

Ok....can you tell me the dosage of each? Thanks.
His motility was just below average, as well....47%....
i imagine you researched the hell out of this already?

These results really came as a shock...
He is very healthy....eats well....exercises....etc...

 

[Macwooly]

Ok....can you tell me the dosage of each? Thanks.
His motility was just below average, as well....47%....
i imagine you researched the hell out of this already?

These results really came as a shock...
He is very healthy....eats well....exercises....etc...

I'm just heading to bed but I'll update in the morning with dosages of each

 

[Indigo77]

SEMEN ANALYSIS

WHO 2010 CRITERIA

pH: 7.2 or higher
White Blood Cells: Less than 1 x 106/mL

Volume: 1.5 mL
Concentration: 15M/mL
Count: 40 million
Motility: 40%
Vitality: 58%
Morphology: - This is a very controversial test which is quickly becoming outdated as a test. Please touch base with your male infertility specialist before taking this test too seriously
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WHO 2009 CRITERIA

Volume: 1.5 ml
Concentration: 15 million/ml
Count: 39 million
Motility: 40%
Vitality: 58%
Morphology: 4%
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RESULTS

5 days abstinence

Volume..............2.2 ml..................Normal if over 1.5 ml
Concentration.....72 million / ml.....Normal if over 15 million
Count................158 million / ml....Normal over 40 million
Motility..............47.64%................Normal if over 40%
Vitality..............(?)80%.................Normal if over 58%
~~~(Forward progression.....30% rapid....50% moderate)
Morphology.........2%......................Normal is over 4

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"When male infertility is suspected and tests reveal abnormal semen parameters, the couple should be referred to a reproductive endocrinologist and/or urologist for further evaluation. Conditions warranting referral for male infertility are:

- a sperm concentration of less than 20 million per mL,
- motility less than 35%,
- morphology less than 5% (Kruger) or 30% (WHO)."

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Expert here on morphology!!

My dh has very poor morphology - tests back in summer 2003 revealed 2% via the strict kruger method and 10% via the WHO method at two separate clinics. However his motility and count were excellent. Got pregnant naturally the month we had our first tests. Baby born April 2004.

Roll on summer 2006 when we tried for #2. My dh got epidydimitus, which is an infection in some tube that carries the sperm, right when we had just started trying - new tests three months later and after a course of antibiotics revealed same crappy morph but now a low low count (1mil down from his previous 100mil) - his count did not come back after a further 9 months so we did ICSI - failed and then a FET and has success with twins.

Roll on twins first birthday and sure enough, I discovered I got pregnant naturally while breastfeeing them. Had a missed mis and then 6 months later pregnant naturally again. Now close to entering my third trimester.

Since our IVF days in 2007, my dh has been followed by a male infertility specialist since they are intrigued by his "issues, counts etc" and all the time his morph has remained crappy - his count seems to be finally coming back very slowly after 4 years. This has been tracked by SA's every 3 months and then every 6 months.

Anyway, sorry for the ramble but the long and the short of it, is that some Dr's seem quite unconcerned about morphology if all else seems good or fairly good and others see big problems. I don't know why such a difference of opinion.

As regards helping morph - the only thing I ever came accross was a study that showed pycnogenol (french tree bark) was shown to help - but it is fairly pricey.

 

[dachsundmom]

Indigo-

 

[LLbean]

ok so here is the deal with mine ...a picture so you can see them all LOL

I had forgotten but I also have him taking the MegaMan stuff from GNC as you can see

Ok from the ones that are NOT blends we have:

Vitamin E 400 I.U. (one pill twice a day)
Vitamin C 500 mg (one pill twice a day)
Maca 525 mg (one pill twice a day)

I got the Maca through Vitacost, it was cheaper. And as you can see some of the things I got at Costco (Kirkland brand) OH and the B complex also was at Costco

Here were his SA results BEFORE all of it

I don't have the picture of the one now but here are the results. So the 1st SA was done in April...the latest one was done June 23rd

..........................April...../.....June....
Count..................93.0...../.....76.0...
Volume.................4.5...../.......3.0....
PH.......................7.0...../.......7.0.....
Motility.................90....../.......80.....
Viscosity............HIGH...../.......HIGH..
Morphology............8.0..../.....70.0.....
Appearance........NORMAL../.....NORMAL...
Liquefaction ..COMPLETE.../.....COMPLETE.

 

[Macwooly]

Right my DH is on:
a generic multivitamin for men TTC but the ingredients are identical to Wellman
1000mg fish oil omega 3 once daily
500mg maca root once daily
vitamin B complex which provides 100% RDA once daily
30mg co enzyme Q10 once daily
150mg Royal Jelly once daily

He takes all as tablets or capsules.

 

[Indigo77]

Thank you soooooo much, Winnie!
Showed hubby the pic and he said...Holy Shit!
He wrote everything down and is going to GNC tomorrow...

Now I feel like I should get tested sooner rather than later....in case I need to fix something that may take time...

I suddenly feel like this is going to be an uphill battle...
How much MM should he take?

Again....thank you sooooo much!

 

[LLbean]

with the megaman (I got the prostate health one) one pill twice a day

And I did get all my tests done before him... so yes, it would be a good idea in my opinion to have that done

Also already contacted the Fertility Specialist today just in case July was not successful for us...as I do not want to waste time...so it would be an IUI...we are noth with good numbers now ...all except his viscosity so the IUI would fix that...hopefully

 

[Indigo77]

Right my DH is on:
a generic multivitamin for men TTC but the ingredients are identical to Wellman
1000mg fish oil omega 3 once daily
500mg maca root once daily
vitamin B complex which provides 100% RDA once daily
30mg co enzyme Q10 once daily
150mg Royal Jelly once daily

He takes all as tablets or capsules.

Thanks...

Just read an interesting study, but now I can't find it again...

DH abstained for 5 days before doing the SA......

for optimum sperm motility and morphology, sperm should be collected from men with male factor infertility after 1 day of abstinence. While total sperm and motile sperm may increase after four days of abstinence, they continue, further prolonged abstinence will result in worse sperm morphology.

https://www.urotoday.com/44/browse_...reduces_sperm_viability_in_infertile_men.html

He is going to take the supplements and get another SA in late August....this time he will only abstain for 2 days....

So, hopefully it's not the end for us....yet, anyway...

 

[Macwooly]

Right my DH is on:
a generic multivitamin for men TTC but the ingredients are identical to Wellman
1000mg fish oil omega 3 once daily
500mg maca root once daily
vitamin B complex which provides 100% RDA once daily
30mg co enzyme Q10 once daily
150mg Royal Jelly once daily

He takes all as tablets or capsules.

Thanks...

Just read an interesting study, but now I can't find it again...

DH abstained for 5 days before doing the SA......

for optimum sperm motility and morphology, sperm should be collected from men with male factor infertility after 1 day of abstinence. While total sperm and motile sperm may increase after four days of abstinence, they continue, further prolonged abstinence will result in worse sperm morphology.

https://www.urotoday.com/44/browse_...reduces_sperm_viability_in_infertile_men.html

He is going to take the supplements and get another SA in late August....this time he will only abstain for 2 days....

So, hopefully it's not the end for us....yet, anyway...

It's not end

I know how you feel as I felt like that with DH's first results and we were told that due to his diabetes it would never improve!

 

[dachsundmom]

Indigo- my DH and my BFF's DH both abstained for two days, as we were told after too long, the quality goes down. IDK if this is true bc my former co-workers DH was told to abstain for four days.

I was getting ready to ask my DH to do his again bc I thought maybe we didn't abstain long enough.

 

[Indigo77]

with the megaman (I got the prostate health one) one pill twice a day

And I did get all my tests done before him... so yes, it would be a good idea in my opinion to have that done

Also already contacted the Fertility Specialist today just in case July was not successful for us...as I do not want to waste time...so it would be an IUI...we are noth with good numbers now ...all except his viscosity so the IUI would fix that...hopefully

What did you have done?
Should I go to my GP or straight to a FS or go to a RE?

 

[LLbean]

with the megaman (I got the prostate health one) one pill twice a day

And I did get all my tests done before him... so yes, it would be a good idea in my opinion to have that done

Also already contacted the Fertility Specialist today just in case July was not successful for us...as I do not want to waste time...so it would be an IUI...we are noth with good numbers now ...all except his viscosity so the IUI would fix that...hopefully

What did you have done?
Should I go to my GP or straight to a FS or go to a RE?

My Gynecologist did the CD3 and the CD21 blood tests...so it showed I have good reserves etc and progesterone on day 21 showed I was ovulating fine too

ALSO, my hubby abstained for 5 days (as told) on the second one...actually I think the same on the first one