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[magicalmom2be]

Are you hoping for twins, Tesh23? Do those days and dosages help with conceiving twins?

 

[southernbound]

Hiya,

Hope it's ok to pop in here with a few questions!

I've been reading about soy isoflavones in here and on other websites, and was wondering if it might be worth giving it a go.

Everywhere it's said you shouldn't use it if your cycle is regular. My cycle has been 29-31 most of the time since I came off the pill in December, but I do get the odd longer cycles. Currently I'm on CD 34 and not pregnant (getting BFN and also failed to DTD enough) and with no AF, I wasn't temping so don't know if I ovulated late or if this is an anovulatory cycle. The last time this happened was in April when my cycle was 36 days.
Would my cycle still be classified as regular, or would it be ok to give SI a go from this perspective? I usually ovulate around CD 18 but would be great if that happened earlier.

I've also read the soy can enhance egg quality. At 38 this is certainly something I'd like to improve if possible, but then again I've also read that if you are over 35 you shouldn't try SI without consulting a doctor. Is this really the case? I mentioned to my GP that we are TTC but she was quite dismissive about the whole thing, just said I should give it a year before talking to a doctor about it. So I'm quite reluctant to go to doc's with this.

Anything else I should consider?

Thanks!!

Welcome! I have always read the same about not using soy if you're regular but personally my lp and periods were so short that I decided it was worth it and it has done wonders for my cycle. I don't know if that would be the case for everyone but personally it only helped my cycle. My doctor was also very dismissive about my poor luteal phase and so I just did it . Good luck with whatever your choice!

Welcome Chelseasmum! My first month I took 80, 80, 80, 80, 120 mgs days 2-6 and my cycle was tremendously improved but unfortunately we didn't get to BD on timd. This cycle, similar to tesh I did 160, 160, 200, 200, 240 days 2-6 and now waiting to ovulate so well see what happens!

 

[chelsealynnb]

Does it matter what time of the day you take them?

 

[southernbound]

Oh I got your screen name wrong! I'm so sorry. No not from a hormonal standpoint. Most people take them before bed just in case there is any side effects but I took them right before work and never had a problem

 

[Tesh23]

Are you hoping for twins, Tesh23? Do those days and dosages help with conceiving twins?

Hi magicalmom! Definitely not hoping for twins, but if that's what I get I will still be super happy. It's my first baby so I'm hoping for a singleton!

With si there are cases of multiples that have been recorded. But there are more singletons I think. It really is still a lucky draw I'm afraid. Will know when I go for my first scan, will keep u update!

 

[Dolphinleigh]

So after soy only taking it for three days at 120, I o,ed cd 11, much better then not ovulating, ( I forgot the last two days with other personal shit going on) we did the deed two days before and day after crosshairs appeared in fertility friend, fingers crossed, currently at 3 dpo, will 4 since after midnight, lol, will see temperature in the morning, congrats to the BFPs and hello to the rest.

 

[squirrel.]

Tesh, I had such a similar soy schedule to you. I did CD2-6 150, 150, 200, 200, 200. I really hope that means good news for me too, but my temps are being stubbornly low, so I worry I might not have good progesterone levels (in general) so might not be building up a good lining for a fertilised egg to implant in. Still feeling good this cycle, but not as confident anymore. Hoping to see my temp go up properly to my normal post-o range of between 36.5 and 36.6. It has been colder in my bedroom lately, but I don't know how much that makes a difference.

 

[Tesh23]

Tesh, I had such a similar soy schedule to you. I did CD2-6 150, 150, 200, 200, 200. I really hope that means good news for me too, but my temps are being stubbornly low, so I worry I might not have good progesterone levels (in general) so might not be building up a good lining for a fertilised egg to implant in. Still feeling good this cycle, but not as confident anymore. Hoping to see my temp go up properly to my normal post-o range of between 36.5 and 36.6. It has been colder in my bedroom lately, but I don't know how much that makes a difference.

Squirrel I hope it's lucky for u this cycle too!!! Fx!

You know, since the si I hav had the lowest pre and post O temps. Even now that I'm pregnant, my temps are way lower than my previous non pregnant charts! I really think that all that matters is that the temps stay above the cover line and continue to do so.

But squirrel I don't think u have anythin to worry about!!! Your chart looks simply amazing!! Beautiful shift and lovely sustained temps. I have high hopes for u this cycle

 

[Powell130]

Tesh, I had such a similar soy schedule to you. I did CD2-6 150, 150, 200, 200, 200. I really hope that means good news for me too, but my temps are being stubbornly low, so I worry I might not have good progesterone levels (in general) so might not be building up a good lining for a fertilised egg to implant in. Still feeling good this cycle, but not as confident anymore. Hoping to see my temp go up properly to my normal post-o range of between 36.5 and 36.6. It has been colder in my bedroom lately, but I don't know how much that makes a difference.

Squirrel I hope it's lucky for u this cycle too!!! Fx!

You know, since the si I hav had the lowest pre and post O temps. Even now that I'm pregnant, my temps are way lower than my previous non pregnant charts! I really think that all that matters is that the temps stay above the cover line and continue to do so.

But squirrel I don't think u have anythin to worry about!!! Your chart looks simply amazing!! Beautiful shift and lovely sustained temps. I have high hopes for u this cycle

What she said! As long as your above your coverline you're fine

 

[dimmu]

Thank you for your response Southernbound, really appreciate it!

Went around London looking for some SI but had no luck, none in the pure form anyway inTesco, Sainburys, boots, superdrug...

I did see some SI + vitamin combination tablets/capsules, but not sure if they are a good idea as they all were for menopause symptoms..? Then there was red clover isoflavones, are these very different or would they do?

I could of course order online but I'd like to try some next cycle and as I'm on cd 35 today don't think they'd would get here in time. Really hoping AF will start tomorrow as my longest cycle so far this year was 36 days.

 

[Lost7]

Thank you for your response Southernbound, really appreciate it!

Went around London looking for some SI but had no luck, none in the pure form anyway inTesco, Sainburys, boots, superdrug...

I did see some SI + vitamin combination tablets/capsules, but not sure if they are a good idea as they all were for menopause symptoms..? Then there was red clover isoflavones, are these very different or would they do?

I could of course order online but I'd like to try some next cycle and as I'm on cd 35 today don't think they'd would get here in time. Really hoping AF will start tomorrow as my longest cycle so far this year was 36 days.

I got mine from a big ish Tesco. The little shop in town here (not a connivence shop) didn't sell it, so I went a little further afield and purchased some. They were on offer too, 3 for 2.

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=260787407

 

[Lost7]

1st page updated ladies!

 

[Powell130]

Do you want my dosage to add to the first page?

 

[Lost7]

Yes please!

 

[Lost7]

I was going to just try reading through the pages!

 

[dimmu]

Thank you for your response Southernbound, really appreciate it!

Went around London looking for some SI but had no luck, none in the pure form anyway inTesco, Sainburys, boots, superdrug...

I did see some SI + vitamin combination tablets/capsules, but not sure if they are a good idea as they all were for menopause symptoms..? Then there was red clover isoflavones, are these very different or would they do?

I could of course order online but I'd like to try some next cycle and as I'm on cd 35 today don't think they'd would get here in time. Really hoping AF will start tomorrow as my longest cycle so far this year was 36 days.

I got mine from a big ish Tesco. The little shop in town here (not a connivence shop) didn't sell it, so I went a little further afield and purchased some. They were on offer too, 3 for 2.

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=260787407

I tried a couple of tesco metros but their selections were poor, so travelled to the nearest superstore that also didn't have any. Don't have a tesco hypermarket near us so not quite sure where else to go.

 

[Lost7]

Mine was just a supermarket, wasn't a megastore or anything like that. How frustrating for you!

 

[squirrel.]

I ordered from justvitamins.co.uk. They do them in 100mg tablets (of actual soy isoflavones, they calculate for how much is in the tablets). They worked in helping me ovulate a little earlier with stronger symptoms, though if they get me a BFP is yet to be seen

 

[southernbound]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think as long as it has a MG amount of SI (or it may say soya) on the back it should be fine. Lots of soy products are marketed for menopause. Red clover has phytoestrogens too I believe but the back should have total isoflavone count so as long as it didn't contain anything unsafe for pregnancy it should be fine

 

[Lost7]

I must admit SI brought my O forward a day or two. Not sure if it was SI or the CoEnzyme Q10 but I actually gained a day or two LP wise too.

Not taking anything now, I'm 11 DPO so fully expect tomorrow or Sunday. My LP's are not really accurate any more. Will be testing Sunday, I do have a LOT of symptoms and have seen some faint lines but not getting my hopes up too much, just in case.