Soya Isoflavones Cycle Buddies! <3

[krissie328]

First page looks good.

I am sorry. I just cannot imagine going through that.

We tried for 8 years before getting pregnant. But I had no losses. I have PCOS and DH has low motility. But he didn't get his diagnosis until we were six years in so that was probably a huge factor. We got around his fertility problems with supplements the first time. So he has continued with that routine and I am just trying to ovulate.

 

[dimmu]

Lost could you add me on the first page as well? It's my first soya cycle, took it cd3-7; 100,150,150,200 & 200.
I'm 4/5 dpo today so not testing until November.

 

[squirrel.]

Do you know I think some soy tablets work better than others as well. I think it's too complicated an issue for us to wade in and say this one works better than that one with helping conception. I don't think we need to let it worry us too much. Soy Isoflavones can help many women ovulate. This is all we know for a fact. I think we should maybe stop debating whether consistent or increasing dosages work better as I really don't want anyone to feel upset with what they're doing or just feel upset in general. TTC is a stressful enough time as it is.

For me it looks like I'm out. I have the faintest shadow lines when tweaking on 11dpo, but don't believe them (even though they're in the time limit) as I had that one yesterday morning too, so they should have darkened today if they really were BFPs. Also, on my past four pregnancies I've always had a clear BFP on 11dpo. Oh and my temp dropped today, so I'm pretty sure I'm out (there's a chance it's just because I woke up an hour earlier than normal and it was cold in my room). I have no symptoms of AF or pregnancy. I feel totally normal!

Going to try Holland and Barret SI next cycle and try the same dosages I did the cycle we conceived our daughter. I don't think these ones that I'm taking are doing anything to be honest, as they don't make me ovulate early, I haven't had side effects on them (like I did before with my daughter's cycle) and my temp stays the same when I take them (with my daughter my temp dropped like a stone the more I took them). I think these ones are rubbish to be honest, so I'm going to try the ones that I know work for the next cycle. Hopefully it will be my lucky cycle!

 

[krissie328]

I bought my soy off Amazon without really looking and noticed after I got it that it had red clover in it as well. I was super annoyed with that. So because of that I didn't take quite as high of a dose as I would have liked. I live in a smaller area so I just don't have access to much and cannot find just soy. Hopefully we catch this cycle and it will be a moot point.

 

[Lost7]

Do you know I think some soy tablets work better than others as well. I think it's too complicated an issue for us to wade in and say this one works better than that one with helping conception. I don't think we need to let it worry us too much. Soy Isoflavones can help many women ovulate. This is all we know for a fact. I think we should maybe stop debating whether consistent or increasing dosages work better as I really don't want anyone to feel upset with what they're doing or just feel upset in general. TTC is a stressful enough time as it is.

For me it looks like I'm out. I have the faintest shadow lines when tweaking on 11dpo, but don't believe them (even though they're in the time limit) as I had that one yesterday morning too, so they should have darkened today if they really were BFPs. Also, on my past four pregnancies I've always had a clear BFP on 11dpo. Oh and my temp dropped today, so I'm pretty sure I'm out (there's a chance it's just because I woke up an hour earlier than normal and it was cold in my room). I have no symptoms of AF or pregnancy. I feel totally normal!

Going to try Holland and Barret SI next cycle and try the same dosages I did the cycle we conceived our daughter. I don't think these ones that I'm taking are doing anything to be honest, as they don't make me ovulate early, I haven't had side effects on them (like I did before with my daughter's cycle) and my temp stays the same when I take them (with my daughter my temp dropped like a stone the more I took them). I think these ones are rubbish to be honest, so I'm going to try the ones that I know work for the next cycle. Hopefully it will be my lucky cycle!

I had a friend look in H&B yesterday and she said they only did around 750mg. This thread is and continues to be a TTC with SI thread, no matter how, when or what dosages you take.

Sorry you're feeling out, you're never out. Keep the faith.

 

[Lost7]

I bought my soy off Amazon without really looking and noticed after I got it that it had red clover in it as well. I was super annoyed with that. So because of that I didn't take quite as high of a dose as I would have liked. I live in a smaller area so I just don't have access to much and cannot find just soy. Hopefully we catch this cycle and it will be a moot point.

Ah - really sorry hun. I have no advice for red clover. I hope you manage to source an alternative SI.

 

[squirrel.]

That's right Lost - the tablets are 750mg, but the actual SI part is only 23mg (label on the back lays out contents). They're the ones I took with Isla (started with 3 tablets, then 4 the next day, then 5 etc.). They really did work for me before. These ones I'm taking now just don't seem to be working in the same way they did before.

 

[krissie328]

Are sore bbs a pre-o sign? I usually only have them after but they are killing me today!! Along with some cramping. OPK was negative.

 

[squirrel.]

Krissie when I take soy I get random sore breasts pre and post o. This cycle is the first cycle where that hasn't happened so much (though they were a bit tender before).

 

[krissie328]

Thanks squirrel. I don't normally get them pre-o. But they are pretty painful today. I was actually having dreams about them last night so obviously they were bothering me then too. I usually break out pre-o but I haven't done that yet either.

Hopefully it is a good sign the soy is working. If I have a "regular" cycle I should o on Saturday.

 

[BostonLover89]

Krissie- I had tender breasts the entire week after taking my soy. They weren't super tender but it was definitely new for me. I also had cramping that week too but it went away right before my positive opk then came back soon after then I got my BFP!

 

[krissie328]

Krissie- I had tender breasts the entire week after taking my soy. They weren't super tender but it was definitely new for me. I also had cramping that week too but it went away right before my positive opk then came back soon after then I got my BFP!

Thanks!! Soy is a new experience. I only took it once before in Oct. 2013 so I don't remember anything.

 

[Powell130]

Thanks Dolphin. Another consistent dosage taker... Interesting.

Happy and healthy 9 months to you sweetie!

First BFP out of the consistent doses.
According to the first page, ya'll are the only ones who have taken consistent doses.
6 girls total have increased doses and 5 have gotten BFPs
2 have taken consistent doses with 1 BFP
1 with unconfirmed doses

And I wonder out of the SI success rates if any of them had Male Factor Infertility too?

The results are not in the least accurate because you've no idea of the fertility status of the couple.

SI helps you ovulate, it however can not cure or improve male factor infertility.

Obviously. I was just making a simple observation that it seems there could be something to increasing doses.
I found a huge SI thread when we were TTC#1 and the majority of the BFPs in it took increasing doses on CD3-7

 

[Powell130]

Do you know I think some soy tablets work better than others as well. I think it's too complicated an issue for us to wade in and say this one works better than that one with helping conception. I don't think we need to let it worry us too much. Soy Isoflavones can help many women ovulate. This is all we know for a fact. I think we should maybe stop debating whether consistent or increasing dosages work better as I really don't want anyone to feel upset with what they're doing or just feel upset in general. TTC is a stressful enough time as it is.

For me it looks like I'm out. I have the faintest shadow lines when tweaking on 11dpo, but don't believe them (even though they're in the time limit) as I had that one yesterday morning too, so they should have darkened today if they really were BFPs. Also, on my past four pregnancies I've always had a clear BFP on 11dpo. Oh and my temp dropped today, so I'm pretty sure I'm out (there's a chance it's just because I woke up an hour earlier than normal and it was cold in my room). I have no symptoms of AF or pregnancy. I feel totally normal!

Going to try Holland and Barret SI next cycle and try the same dosages I did the cycle we conceived our daughter. I don't think these ones that I'm taking are doing anything to be honest, as they don't make me ovulate early, I haven't had side effects on them (like I did before with my daughter's cycle) and my temp stays the same when I take them (with my daughter my temp dropped like a stone the more I took them). I think these ones are rubbish to be honest, so I'm going to try the ones that I know work for the next cycle. Hopefully it will be my lucky cycle!

Oh I know. I wasn't trying to say this one is better than that one. I made an observation and she commented back on it.

Ummm whyy do you think you're out with lines like that?! I can definitely see the line easier on the CB than yesterdays. I didn't have to enlarge any pics just now to see your lines. And remember HCG doubles average 48 hours so you wouldn't expect much progression. Tomorrows would be better to compare to yesterdays for that (even tho "they" say not to compare tests...we all do it lol) I still think this is it for you

 

[squirrel.]

Thanks Powell, it just doesn't feel right... they don't feel real to me I mean I hope I'm wrong, but I do just feel out!

I had quite a few like this. There was this one too... but after staring at the tweaks all day... I ahve to say I think I became numb to the shadow lines, as I don't think I saw this at the time, but now I see it. I took this test a 2pm and took the picture five minutes later... still doesn't feel right though

 

[Momtastic101]

Hey ladies I've been stocking this thread for a while now but haven't commented. I'm on my second soy cycle the first month I took 80mg, 80mg, 80mg, 120mg, 120mg cycle days 3-7 this time I took 120, 120, 160, 160, 200 cycle days 2-6. Yesterday at 9 or 10dpo I took a test and thought I saw a faint line, I took another one today at 10 or 11dpo and i can definitely see it but it's still faint I'm going to try and upload a picture, not sure if it will show on the picture though

 

[krissie328]

Definitely see that line momtastic!

 

[BostonLover89]

I see it too!

 

[Powell130]

I do believe there is going to be two undeniable s in the next few days!

 

[Lost7]

Momtastic, definitely see those lines. Fingers crossed for you!
Squirrel, It's a blue dye test and I'd certainly be wary of those. I've had a few that's looked exactly like that. I hope it's your month mind and that I am wrong.