Soya Isoflavones Cycle Buddies! <3

[GoldenRatio]

This is my first cycle taking SI. We were prescribed clomid but decided to try the natural course first. I'm taking 120mg cd5-9. Currently cd6. Hopeful this works for us!

Hey junemomma! didnt expect yo see u here as ur symptoms were great last cycle. Symptoms can be tricky ha. Oh welll im sure this cycle is gonna be great for us.

Did u get any side effects?

Yesterday was my first time taking, i felt tired in the morning and horrible ulcer kinda pains, then last night i took hour before bed and as soon as i took it, pain started. Its definitly giving my stomach a hard time as i had serious ulcer issues couple yrs ago. 3 more days to go!!! I hope its all worth it at the end

 

[GoldenRatio]

Im bit confused now, am i taking the wrong SI?

https://naturalfactors.com/product/soy-isoflavone-complex/

For me to get 200 iso, i need like 15 pills a day

 

[squirrel.]

Golden, unfortunately yes, those capsules haven't got much SI in them. I'm taking a similarly low amount in mine at 23mg. I had to take 8 my last day of taking them!! Blurgh! I did have a 100mg one the last three cycles, but it didn't really work as it should, so even though the one I'm taking has a lot less, I feel it will do a lot more!! I'm kind of counting this my first SI cycle (proper SI cycle).

 

[GoldenRatio]

Golden, unfortunately yes, those capsules haven't got much SI in them. I'm taking a similarly low amount in mine at 23mg. I had to take 8 my last day of taking them!! Blurgh! I did have a 100mg one the last three cycles, but it didn't really work as it should, so even though the one I'm taking has a lot less, I feel it will do a lot more!! I'm kind of counting this my first SI cycle (proper SI cycle).

ugh thats sucks, what should i do now? i have 2 more days left, should i take like 15 to get 200mg or couple more days?

 

[squirrel.]

How many have you taken so far?

 

[GoldenRatio]

How many have you taken so far?

CD3 2pills=27.6mg
CD4 3pills=41.4mg
CD5 3pills=41.4mg

and today is CD6. I think taking 15 is bit much so im planning to get an other brand tonight and take 200mg and up to CD9.

Im not sure if this is a good plan

 

[junemomma09]

This is my first cycle taking SI. We were prescribed clomid but decided to try the natural course first. I'm taking 120mg cd5-9. Currently cd6. Hopeful this works for us!

Hey junemomma! didnt expect yo see u here as ur symptoms were great last cycle. Symptoms can be tricky ha. Oh welll im sure this cycle is gonna be great for us.

Did u get any side effects?

Yesterday was my first time taking, i felt tired in the morning and horrible ulcer kinda pains, then last night i took hour before bed and as soon as i took it, pain started. Its definitly giving my stomach a hard time as i had serious ulcer issues couple yrs ago. 3 more days to go!!! I hope its all worth it at the end

Hey golden! Yeah i was hoping last cycle was going to be the one but unfortunately it didn't happen. I was hopeful my lengthened LP was due to a possible pregnancy but alas it wasn't. Fortunately though i know the progesterone did what it was suppose to do.

My side effects have been hot flashes, queasy feeling, and been emotional the last couple days. Tomorrow is my last dose thank god!

 

[GoldenRatio]

okey so i decided not to give up and this is my plan

I already took
CD3 2pills=27.6mg
CD4 3pills=41.4mg
CD5 3pills=41.4mg

so today i will get the correct SI pills and continue

CD6 200mg
CD7 200mg
CD8 200mg

Since CD3 was only 27.6mg, im gonna not count that day and take up to Cd8.

So we can say i took, CD4-8 40mg, 40mg, 200mg, 200mg, 200mg


What do you ladies think??

 

[corgankidd]

I took a test this morning and then had to run out the door to work within a few minutes after taking it. When I got home I looked at it again and there was a line! Does it look like an evap to you?? I've never had one so I don't know what they look like! I wanted to take another tonight but can't seem to hold my pee for longer than an hour
I got a digi to try in the morning but I'm so anxious!! Thoughts?

(Don't mind the dirty fingernails, I was crafting with the kiddo, lol)

 

[55comet555]

I took a test this morning and then had to run out the door to work within a few minutes after taking it. When I got home I looked at it again and there was a line! Does it look like an evap to you?? I've never had one so I don't know what they look like! I wanted to take another tonight but can't seem to hold my pee for longer than an hour
I got a digi to try in the morning but I'm so anxious!! Thoughts?

(Don't mind the dirty fingernails, I was crafting with the kiddo, lol)

try dipping it in water for like 5 seconds, should get rid of an evap if it is one! good luck!

 

[corgankidd]

I've never heard of that! I'm going to try it now

 

[55comet555]

goodluck!

 

[junemomma09]

Cd9 and last dose SI today. My temps have stayed low so I'm guessing it's doing what it's suppose to?

 

[Lost7]

Corgan, It's difficult to say as you're holding it up to the light. Next time try to photograph a test on a flat surface. It's easier for us to see then.

Have you re-tested? Good luck.

Good luck June.

 

[GoldenRatio]

corgan, all my opks give me line like that after 3mins waiting period. You might be getting close to ovulation too, just keep testing twice a day.



Seems like noone cares but i will still write down what i did with my SI problem, incase it helps someone in the future.

I went everywhere last night and couldnt find any SI, and i didnt want to take 15 capsules. So i opened the capsules in one cup of orange juice and just had that before bed. I didnt hav any side effects and this morning im feeling fine.

Im gonna do that 2 more nights, which will give me

cd3 27.6
cd4 41.4
cd5 41.4
cd6 207
cd7 207
cd8 207

Im gonna order the right SI today for next cycle, if this doesnt work.

 

[junemomma09]

corgan, all my opks give me line like that after 3mins waiting period. You might be getting close to ovulation too, just keep testing twice a day.



Seems like noone cares but i will still write down what i did with my SI problem, incase it helps someone in the future.

I went everywhere last night and couldnt find any SI, and i didnt want to take 15 capsules. So i opened the capsules in one cup of orange juice and just had that before bed. I didnt hav any side effects and this morning im feeling fine.

Im gonna do that 2 more nights, which will give me

cd3 27.6
cd4 41.4
cd5 41.4
cd6 207
cd7 207
cd8 207

Im gonna order the right SI today for next cycle, if this doesnt work.

Of course we care golden! it may have just been overlooked hun. I think it doesn't hurt to increase to a higher dose. Good luck with it hun! Crossings my fingers you get a good strong O!

 

[Inkedlady88]

The got me today. :Nope: On to SI round 2, month 5 of TTC #1. Instead of starting out at 200mg straight through, I'm going to try easing up to it. Not sure on what dosage yet, but I'm going to do days 3-7 again and hope for a better outcome.

 

[junemomma09]

The got me today. :Nope: On to SI round 2, month 5 of TTC #1. Instead of starting out at 200mg straight through, I'm going to try easing up to it. Not sure on what dosage yet, but I'm going to do days 3-7 again and hope for a better outcome.

Sorry to hear the witch got you! Fx next cycle is the one!

 

[Skywalker]

Going to keep this rather short and sweet.

Soya Isoflavones are a natural alternative to Clomid.

Soya Isoflavones are commonly referred to as SI.

Soya Isoflavones are not for everyone, in fact if you have a regular cycle you should not try SI.

If you have been on Clomid (for example 50mg) you should double the dosage for SI (You'd be taking 100mg)

The maximum dose of Soya Isoflavones you can take per day is 200mg.

You only take Soya Isoflavones for a maximum of 5 days early into your cycle. This might be days 1-5, 2-6, 3-7 etc. The latest you may start taking Soya Isoflavones is CD5. Taking it longer than 5 days will have negative effects on your Fertility.

*Always* consult your doctor before taking any new medications.

When to take SI?

You take Soy Isoflavones, like Clomid, on either CD 1-5 , 2-6, 3-7 , 4-8 or 5-9.
If you take soy Isoflavones during the later time bracket, for example CD5-9, you shall strengthen the egg that has already started growing producing a healthier egg. The earlier in your cycle you take It, the higher your chance of releasing multiple eggs but these eggs will not be as mature as the eggs grown from taking Soya later.
A lot of women will choose the middle cycle (3 -7) allowing time for a strong and healthy egg to develop without erasing the chance of a second egg being developed and released.


Which days are better?

1-5 = you produce more eggs, and ovulate sooner, with a stronger ovulation.

2-6 = you produce more eggs that usual, but not as many as taking it 1-5. Eggs may be more mature, and ovulation will be slightly more strong than 1-5.

3-7 = The best of both worlds, a few more eggs, and all eggs will be strong & mature, and ovulation will be alot stronger than 1-5.

4-8 = No more eggs will be produced, but the ones already there, will be matured alot more than usual, and ovulation will be very strong. Ovulation may only be brought forward a teeny bit.

5-9 = You'll have one very mature strong egg, from the ones you already produced on your own. Ovulation will either happen when it usually does, or a few days later, but your egg will be of great quality.

Whilst there hasn't been any research regarding dosage and whether to keep the dosage consistent (just like you would Clomid), or to increase the dosage daily on this particular thread, women are having more luck with increasing dosages. This is a rather small study, with only minimal amount of data. Obviously any data collected regarding Soya Isoflavones dosages do not take things like Male Factor Infertility into consideration.

Soya helps you Ovulate, it stimulates your ovaries. Therefore if you are struggling with Male Factor Infertility the success rates may well be lower.

Please see your Fertility Specialist and or Doctor for more information.


This is my first cycle on Soya Isoflavones, I took 200mg on Days 3-7, taking 5 x 40mg tablets each day. I have not been on any fertility drugs such as clomid before.
I ovulate normally but want good egg quality for a strong ovulation and a strong sticky bean.

Congratulations:

Powell130 First SI cycle of 2015, Days 3-7 (120, 120, 160, 160, 200mg)

Tesh23 Second Cycle in a row, Days 2-6 (160, 160, 200, 200, 200mg)

SouthernBound Second Cycle in a row, Days 2-6 (160, 160, 200, 200, 240mg)

BostonLover89 Days 2-6 (50, 100, 100, 100, 100mg)

Dolphinleigh (Non SI cycle).

Dimmu Days 3-7 (100, 150, 150, 200, 200mg)


Planning to take:

NZAussie86
55comet555
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What is considered a "regular" cycle? I get my period every 30-32 days and don't yet know when I ovulate within my cycle as I just started TTC'ing.

 

[Lost7]

Your cycle would be considered regular.