Spouses with low sperm count.

[redcolabottle]

Hi Ladies

I just wanted to drop in as it's been a while since I last posted here but I've had some good news and I hope that it'll give all of you girls with OH / DH's with male fertility issues some hope.

We just got a on Monday for the 1st time ever after 2 years of TTC. Hoping against hopes that this little bean sticks.

Anyhow when we started having DH investigated we got really bad results back in January of this year:
1.1 ml volume
17m concentration
18.7 total number
0% progressive
24% non progressive
76% immotile
2% normal forms
Incomplete liquefaction
Abnormal viscosity

We were totally shocked and didn't quite know what to do but DH started taking 'Fertility Support for Men' and we both started eating a lot less red meat (once a week), chicken (twice a week) and instead eating lots of fish and vegetables, exercising and cutting down sweets and alcohol.

The improvements showed on his next SA results just two months later (March this year)
3.2 ml volume
28.48m total sperm count
2/4 progression
5% normal forms - morphology
41% motility
Viscocity normal

I'd been tested and all seemed to be fine on my side but then this month I had a HSG to check my tubes.... and then in the same month we got a BFP. So maybe it was me all along or maybe the improvements we've been making have finally paid off.

Some other stuff I was trying this month were: pomegranate juice, eating pineapple (and its core), having hot drinks and food only, soaking my feet in hot water at night!

Anyhow I just wanted to share because a few months ago this group was a great help to me when I didn't know what to do to make things better for DH. I hope you all get positives soon and thanks again for all the support.

 

[ikmju4]

Congrats, just been put on 50mg of clomid to help ovulate and told to keep hubby doing what hes doing vitamins etc

 

[Prayingforno1]

Wow that's fantastic news. Congrats on your

 

[MrsHamstra]

I can't seem to find any threads about men taking clomid!
So here goes
I ovulate on my own now and some what on time got it to CD22 thanks to acupuncture HOWEVER its time to do something about my husbands low sperm count 6mil. Motility, morphology, everything is excellent all but count.
In aug my OB filled me a prescription of 150MG for 5 days that 750MG total!! I don't need it but thought now to give clomid to my husband to boost his count. His co worker took clomid to get his wife pregnant and his count was 6mil also after 30 days of just clomid it went up to 12mil and then he started taking testosterone pills from GNC and in 2 weeks his count spiked again.

My question is how many 25MG a day should my husband take? Should he take 25MG for 30 days or 25MG for 6 days every month?

 

[Briss]

MrsHamstra, I do not know about clomid, but I read that testosterone when taken directly is in facts decreases sperm count and has a negative effect on their fertility overall. My hubby has count of below 3 mil and probably caused by low testosterone so it was recommended that we take tribulis and horny goat weed that help his body to produce testosterone (rather than injecting him with testosterone directly). I cant say yet whether this worked because it seems that the main reason for my hubby's low testosterone is his love for beer beer has this effect on T level going down so unless he stops beer all together we may have to resort to IVF.

Also, I recently decided to give chinese medicine a try and my acu doctor recommended this chinese medicine for improving sperm count https://www.chineseherb.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=429

 

[MrsHamstra]

And ya know I can just picture your hubby saying this to you "well all my guy friends drinl beer and they have kids!"

My husband says that all the time! He loved his booze back in the day along with pot and look at him now he's paying for it OUT OF POCKET LITERALLY! TO FATHER A CHILD =(

 

[Maddy40]

Hi ladies. I'm confused We have just recently started TTC. We had SA done a few years ago when my proactive doctor insisted DH have SA done at the same time as I had some gyno surgery "just in case you want to TTC in future". Great doc!

However because we weren't TTC at the time, the doc just gave us the results, said the numbers were "low" but he didn't really tell us anything else. Does anyone have any particular feeling about these numbers? Or can recommend a good website where I can research more?

Many thanks in advance

Count 65 million/ml
Viscosity abnormal (high) pH 8

Motile 46 million/ml
Motility 70% (34% rapid, 10 % medium, 26% slow, 30% static)
Morphology
Normal 6%, Abnormal 95% (Slight amorph 16%, abnormal 79%)

Got new test results today. Good news was an increase in numbers & quality but still at the low end of normal under Australian standards. The bad news was significant agglutination was noted & it's not clear what type of immunology response is causing this. The test notes the level detected greatly reduces fertility Doc said they will repeat the test in 1 week and then take a closer look at any further diagnostics they need to do...

Third (more detailed) tests came back last week. After washing, DH's sample came back with only 10% motility. We are now starting IUI this month.

 

[tryn4]

I need help. just got the results back from hubby SA. I'm really upset.
volume: normal
count: normal (32)
MOTILITY: TERRIBLE
rapid progression 16%
slow 4%
non progressive 23%
immotile 57%
and his viability is 49% just under normal.
Is there any hope for us? I don't have any issues myself. 4 children from previous relationship. I'm freaking out cuz I'm reading there is nothing you can do for immotile sperm

 

[Maddy40]

I need help. just got the results back from hubby SA. I'm really upset.
volume: normal
count: normal (32)
MOTILITY: TERRIBLE
rapid progression 16%
slow 4%
non progressive 23%
immotile 57%
and his viability is 49% just under normal.
Is there any hope for us? I don't have any issues myself. 4 children from previous relationship. I'm freaking out cuz I'm reading there is nothing you can do for immotile sperm

Hi Tryn, our motility is 10% and we are doing IUI for that reason. Even with that count we have had one natural BFP that ended in MC, so all is not lost. Are you seeing a Fertility Specialist that can advise you?

 

[tryn4]

Well in 6 years and 5 years of not using protection I never got one bfp. We won't ever be able to afford ivf/iui/icsi type treatments unfortunately. The Dr referred him to a urologist. I'm just overwhelmingly sad.

 

[Maddy40]

Well in 6 years and 5 years of not using protection I never got one bfp. We won't ever be able to afford ivf/iui/icsi type treatments unfortunately. The Dr referred him to a urologist. I'm just overwhelmingly sad.

I'm so sorry...have you tried some of the try-at-home suggestions like Softcups (to keep the sperm high up in the right area after sex) and Preseed (Sperm friendly lubricant to help them swim up easier)? I do know the financial difficulties well - at this point we could not afford IVF even if it was offered, so we basically have 3 IUI sessions and then we're done, unless something changes

 

[tryn4]

Haven't tried either of those yet. Since we literally just found out, my hubby was in no mood to bd last night which was my 1dpo. I don't even kno what to say to him. Right now he hasn't said a word to me since the news. He just Hung out with my kids then came to bed and went right to sleep. I need to research more options. There is no way absolutly none that we can do expensive treatments and from what I have read there isn't much to treat immotiliy. Frustrating!

 

[Briss]

try asking Rich on https://www.fertilichat.com/forumdisplay.php?13-Male-Infertility he is a sperm guru and really helpful. Although it may take a few weeks for him to respond but he always provides a very comprehensive answer.

 

[tryn4]

Thank you I surely will!

 

[lisap2008]

I can't seem to find any threads about men taking clomid!
So here goes
I ovulate on my own now and some what on time got it to CD22 thanks to acupuncture HOWEVER its time to do something about my husbands low sperm count 6mil. Motility, morphology, everything is excellent all but count.
In aug my OB filled me a prescription of 150MG for 5 days that 750MG total!! I don't need it but thought now to give clomid to my husband to boost his count. His co worker took clomid to get his wife pregnant and his count was 6mil also after 30 days of just clomid it went up to 12mil and then he started taking testosterone pills from GNC and in 2 weeks his count spiked again.

My question is how many 25MG a day should my husband take? Should he take 25MG for 30 days or 25MG for 6 days every month?

Clomid works if his testosterone is low ,but it can take months to see a good improvement so he would need to take 25 mg for months then go in for a SA and see if there is any improvement .also keep in mind that there can be serious side effects with the clomid so its best that he gets his own prescription verses taking yours so a doctor can monitor his results.

the only time we conceived in the past 3 years was when my husband had taken HCG shots which also increases testosterone natually and increases sperm count. my husband has been on the HCG again for a month now so thats giving me hope.

from what I read anything that increases testosterone natually will also increase sperm production , straight testosterone is not a good idea though because it makes his body stop producing his own and also stop sperm production this does not happen over night but over months of taking it.

A great natural treament to have him try is Maca it balances the hormones and increases sperm count and motility.

 

[lisap2008]

I need help. just got the results back from hubby SA. I'm really upset.
volume: normal
count: normal (32)
MOTILITY: TERRIBLE
rapid progression 16%
slow 4%
non progressive 23%
immotile 57%
and his viability is 49% just under normal.
Is there any hope for us? I don't have any issues myself. 4 children from previous relationship. I'm freaking out cuz I'm reading there is nothing you can do for immotile sperm

How long did he abstain before his SA?.
for some men the motility will drop after abstaining for too long , also too much heat down there slows them down. also keep in mind that once sperm hit the cold air they start to die especially if the sample was let to sit for more then 30 min .
I believe motility can be improved also with supplements here is a link for one https://www.fairhavenhealth.com/motilityboost.html

 

[tryn4]

I need help. just got the results back from hubby SA. I'm really upset.
volume: normal
count: normal (32)
MOTILITY: TERRIBLE
rapid progression 16%
slow 4%
non progressive 23%
immotile 57%
and his viability is 49% just under normal.
Is there any hope for us? I don't have any issues myself. 4 children from previous relationship. I'm freaking out cuz I'm reading there is nothing you can do for immotile sperm

How long did he abstain before his SA?.
for some men the motility will drop after abstaining for too long , also too much heat down there slows them down. also keep in mind that once sperm hit the cold air they start to die especially if the sample was let to sit for more then 30 min .
I believe motility can be improved also with supplements here is a link for one https://www.fairhavenhealth.com/motilityboost.html

ooh thank u! I have him on zinc since this month, cause I read up on it an figured it couldn't hurt. He abstained like 6 days. We bd the Tuesday, then af came Wednesday, then he did the SA following Monday. I told him we should increase sex but we both work full-time, sometimes he is tired n lazy too. I just feel like I'm the only one making a real effort, and this will just discourage him more.

 

[Briss]

I can't seem to find any threads about men taking clomid!
So here goes
I ovulate on my own now and some what on time got it to CD22 thanks to acupuncture HOWEVER its time to do something about my husbands low sperm count 6mil. Motility, morphology, everything is excellent all but count.
In aug my OB filled me a prescription of 150MG for 5 days that 750MG total!! I don't need it but thought now to give clomid to my husband to boost his count. His co worker took clomid to get his wife pregnant and his count was 6mil also after 30 days of just clomid it went up to 12mil and then he started taking testosterone pills from GNC and in 2 weeks his count spiked again.

My question is how many 25MG a day should my husband take? Should he take 25MG for 30 days or 25MG for 6 days every month?

Clomid works if his testosterone is low ,but it can take months to see a good improvement so he would need to take 25 mg for months then go in for a SA and see if there is any improvement .also keep in mind that there can be serious side effects with the clomid so its best that he gets his own prescription verses taking yours so a doctor can monitor his results.

the only time we conceived in the past 3 years was when my husband had taken HCG shots which also increases testosterone natually and increases sperm count. my husband has been on the HCG again for a month now so thats giving me hope.

from what I read anything that increases testosterone natually will also increase sperm production , straight testosterone is not a good idea though because it makes his body stop producing his own and also stop sperm production this does not happen over night but over months of taking it.

A great natural treament to have him try is Maca it balances the hormones and increases sperm count and motility.

I completely agree with that. apart from maca we are also using HornyGoat and Tribulis I am told they have the same effect on T levels

 

[lisap2008]

I need help. just got the results back from hubby SA. I'm really upset.
volume: normal
count: normal (32)
MOTILITY: TERRIBLE
rapid progression 16%
slow 4%
non progressive 23%
immotile 57%
and his viability is 49% just under normal.
Is there any hope for us? I don't have any issues myself. 4 children from previous relationship. I'm freaking out cuz I'm reading there is nothing you can do for immotile sperm

How long did he abstain before his SA?.
for some men the motility will drop after abstaining for too long , also too much heat down there slows them down. also keep in mind that once sperm hit the cold air they start to die especially if the sample was let to sit for more then 30 min .
I believe motility can be improved also with supplements here is a link for one https://www.fairhavenhealth.com/motilityboost.html

ooh thank u! I have him on zinc since this month, cause I read up on it an figured it couldn't hurt. He abstained like 6 days. We bd the Tuesday, then af came Wednesday, then he did the SA following Monday. I told him we should increase sex but we both work full-time, sometimes he is tired n lazy too. I just feel like I'm the only one making a real effort, and this will just discourage him more.

Studys have shown that over 5 days of abstinance causes the sperm quality and motility to be lower so you might have him only abstain for a max of 3 days for his next SA I bet the motility will be higher.

 

[vkv]

Hi,

I am new to this forum and am in desperate need for some help and advice. DH and I started TTC in July 2011, after 1 year of trying we sought medical help and it turns out that DH's has extremely low sperm count and that we need to try ICSI in order to conceive.

We finally got our heads around that, when after further tests on DH we have been told that he has a testicular tumour. All blood and further testing show that it is most likely benign however they would like to remove the testicle to avoid any risks.

We are devasted. Not really sure where to go from here. We would like a second opinion but don't know where to turn. We live in London so would preferably like to see a private Urologist in London. Do any of you ladies have any recommendations? Have any of you and your partners experienced this?

Any help, support and advice that you give will be most appreciated as we are completely distraught and scared.

Thankyou.x