"too posh to push"

[LittleMinx]

Its really good to hear from people that have done it! I personally would feel cheated if I had to have a cesarian, because Im going through pregnancy and want to experience giving birth if that makes any sense! I suppose its each to their own really buthearing from the other side gives perspective, still I want a natural birth x

I cannot give birth naturally due to several factors, and it took 32 hours of labour and my 1st baby nearly dying to find this out! Just because i didn't have her naturally does not mean i didn't give birth!!! I certainly do not feel cheated, without a c-section i wouldn't be able to have children.

 

[mysteriouseye]

I hate this term, I had my baby by C-section because she was breech, and I was not allowed to try for a breech birth as it was my first baby, I certainly didn’t want my C-section and for me it was not easy to recover from and the first night in hospital I could not even lift my baby from her cot because I was in so much pain. My C-Section was definitely not wanted and it certainly wasn’t an easy way out that everyone makes it to be xx

 

[leahtaba]

Its really good to hear from people that have done it! I personally would feel cheated if I had to have a cesarian, because Im going through pregnancy and want to experience giving birth if that makes any sense! I suppose its each to their own really buthearing from the other side gives perspective, still I want a natural birth x

I cannot give birth naturally due to several factors, and it took 32 hours of labour and my 1st baby nearly dying to find this out! Just because i didn't have her naturally does not mean i didn't give birth!!! I certainly do not feel cheated, without a c-section i wouldn't be able to have children.

I knew what OP said there would hit a nerve with a few people.

I personally think no matter how your baby came into this world ypu have still experienced delivery of a baby, and I think the recovery off a c section must be awful, I ended up with stitches and they alone were no joke!

id never opt for a c section without reason but if I ended up needing one I would feel cheated at all x

 

[RaspberryK]

No I don't agree with having c section without medical reason on the nhs.
If you want one so badly you should pay for it yourself.
Obviously I agree that anyone who needs one medically then that's an entirely different matter and they should have the service available to them.
Xx

 

[greenpear]

C-section? No thanks (unless necessary). I had natural birth first time around with no drugs or nothing and even though I tore up, my vagina healed up in several weeks and honestly, after doing some kegels when time came to "hit the sack" hubs couldn't tell the difference and I couldn't either, so no, I don't consider my vagina ruined in any way

(although right after birth that thought did cross my mind - will it ever be the same? Also big chunk of advice to 1st time ladies - don't look down there for the first month or so as things may not look the same but I promise you, they will all go back to normal )

 

[Starry Night]

What I don't appreciate is people after the fact telling me if they thought my section was necessary or not. They aren't my doctor and they weren't there. Personally, I think if someone says they are having a section it really isn't anyone's business as to the reason. I don't need a lay person's approval for my medical treatments. And I don't need to answer for the medical system that is set up to make sections more common.

Sections are major surgery so they are not an "easy way out" in terms of recovery. No, you don't have to work hard at the pushing part (I only pushed a very, very short while) but it's still tough on the body. They've become common so maybe people get the impression that they're easy or "no big deal". It's not something I would have wanted to do for no reason other than convenience.

But I will say that going through a tough labour only to end in section is frustrating. My doctor wants me to VBAC but our hospital's vBAC rate is low so that makes me feel that another emergency section is in the cards. I would much rather choose an elective over another emergency. Labour really hurts and if I can't see it through anyways, why not avoid of having the pain of both labour AND surgery?

And can we get rid of the phrase "too posh to push"? It's far too provoking. A woman can't be told she's too posh to push and then get told about how hard sections are on the body in the same breath. Sections can't be both an easy way out and harder on the body than a regular birth. And for the record, I don't feel cheated in the slightest. My son is here and he's happy and healthy. I got pregnant to have a baby and child to raise.

 

[mysteriouseye]

The thing is you literally NEVER know if your birth is going to end up in C-section any of us ladies on this very post could end up with a C-section, I spent up until 38 weeks in my last pregnancy with the absolute 100% perfect pregnancy and was very Anti C-section and did not want one, but it was the safest way and the only way I was allowed to deliver my baby xx

 

[mysteriouseye]

I like to remind my friend this who managed to give birth naturally with her first and try and rub it in my face and tell me that I got the easy way out and I was lazy… that I would never rub in someone’s face about having a C-section because you never know your next one could end up in C-section and you would be eating your own words xx

 

[Tigerlilyb]

The thing is you literally NEVER know if your birth is going to end up in C-section any of us ladies on this very post could end up with a C-section, I spent up until 38 weeks in my last pregnancy with the absolute 100% perfect pregnancy and was very Anti C-section and did not want one, but it was the safest way and the only way I was allowed to deliver my baby xx

I don't think anyone here is belittling people who have to have one - we're talking about the people who choose to have one in spite of being perfectly able to have a vaginal birth.

I'm scared of one personally but if it would endanger me or the baby I'd go through with it in a heartbeat.

 

[Angelbaby_01]

When I was pregnant with DD we had a thread here that had a study. A very low percentage of ladies with elective c-sections had problems, ladies with normal birth more and ladies ending up in emcs had many problems even death in some cases. we were shocked to read that and wish I can find it.

That said, one side says it's getting the easier side out yet confirmed it's major surgery. On the other hand some say it takes longer to heal, but most ladies would agree that within 2 weeks they were fine where as I personally now some ladies that went normal and had major problems 6 months after.

There is no win win situation. No easy way out wether it is surgery or being in labour. In the end we all have to suffer some sort of discomfort or pain to have our little ones and the route to take is up to each individual.

I understand why the op posted this and don't think it is wrong to get opinions from the other side, but it's no easy way out for anyone.

If I didn't opt for an elective c-section then I might have not had my darling girl today and that is confirmed by medical staff. Every birth is special no matter the type of birth. In the end we all cry with happiness and an overwelming love when we hear that first cry. We want healthy babies and that is what matter most.

Also with ff or bf. Not everyone can bf for many reasons and it's not up to us to judge another persons situation.

 

[mysteriouseye]

Sorry I was probably coming across a bit stern in my response, I know nobody personally on here is trying to get at C-section Women, I was generally saying that I hate the term and C-section is certainly not the easy way out that everyone thinks it is… some women are up and about in 2 weeks but for me I really struggled. xx

 

[Angelbaby_01]

Sorry I was probably coming across a bit stern in my response, I know nobody personally on here is trying to get at C-section Women, I was generally saying that I hate the term and C-section is certainly not the easy way out that everyone thinks it is… some women are up and about in 2 weeks but for me I really struggled. xx

I didn't see you as stern, but more someone that obviously had a hard time, but doesn't mean it would have been easier other way around. And yes, some of did get better in 2 weeks time, but doesn't mean it will be the same for everyone. It hurt like hell when I had to get up and that I will never forget. Xxx

 

[MommyJogger]

I think the phrase "too posh to push" is intended to refer to those who choose to schedule the surgical delivery of their first child in a low-risk pregnancy situation or successive low-risk pregnancies in the absence of a prior section. Most of us are used to doctors who won't perform electa-sections, but forget that there are niches who can pay doctors to fabricate reasons to do it. It's not intended to refer to those who needed a section or even previous section mommies who opt not to vbac. The whole idea about something like this being personal choice is strange to me. I would hope at that point that all doctors would have the ethics not to do it just based on evidence that it might not be best for the child (referring to vaginal delivery innoculation of the microbiome).
I definitely hear it used incorrectly way too often to refer to emergency sections and 2+ sections.

 

[Angelbaby_01]

Which ever way, I am then one of those posh mommies that can afford it since I have personal health insurance and asked for one and chose my date. But my birth would have ended in emcs anyway if I went normal. I see no problem with anyone that can afford it. Besides it's a way of giving birth, many emcs would be avoided had everyone the option to elect. I will have another c-section since vbac is not an option where I live.

 

[florence_]

you can opt for a c section on the nhs wether high risk or low risk, u can demand it, I think its personal choice, I myself want to try and experience natural labour but at the end of the day ill do whatevers necessary to bring my boy into this world and wont feel bad either way, I don't disagree at all with ppl having elective c sections, everyones lives are different and if pp chose to have a c section or vaginal birth everyone has the right, I see csection as going through labour just the same to be honest. id feel more cheated opting out of a c section and causing my baby damage when he could just pop through the sun roof as my hubby keeps referring it to lol x

 

[Angelbaby_01]

when he could just pop through the sun roof as my hubby keeps referring it to lol x

Cute way to see it

 

[addy1]

I have had both a c-section with a v-bac to follow. I do not consider one delivery more special them the other. Both my girls are here....happy and healthy. I remember both their births not for the way they came, but what I got in the end.

 

[snickersbar]

When we started ttc I was very very scared of giving birth and the whole process of labour and was very sure I wanted a cs. This was partly due to a number of friends having bad birth experiences and ending up with emcs.

The reasons for wanting a cs were that I wanted the control of having an elective cs rather than having to go through the panic of an emcs due to the reason posted above - it is so much safer than having a labour which has problems. I also had very bad ibs problems which caused a number of other problems and I was so scared of the pain involved in pushing, etc, and the tears and future problems that I could end up with.

However...ttc took a lot longer than I thought, and time and desperation were a wonderful tonic to my worry. I ended up so desperate to have a baby that the fear of giving birth receded. I now don't want an elective cs and will be doing hynobirthing and hopefully having a doula in a bid to have the calmest 'natural' birth I can, with hopefully no need for intervention. Obviously this may not be the case, I may end up having an emcs but I am now more worried of surgery than the birth.

But had this been two years ago, then I may well have ended up with an elective cs. I would never criticise women who choose this option for fear of giving birth, people have different fears and different pain thresholds, and I really don't like bashing people when I haven't experienced their thoughts and feelings.
x

 

[KatyKat]

I hate this term, I had my baby by C-section because she was breech, and I was not allowed to try for a breech birth as it was my first baby, I certainly didn’t want my C-section and for me it was not easy to recover from and the first night in hospital I could not even lift my baby from her cot because I was in so much pain. My C-Section was definitely not wanted and it certainly wasn’t an easy way out that everyone makes it to be xx

I had a section for exactly the same reason, and I hated it too. It was heartbreaking not even being able to pick my daughter out of her cot and having to call for help from the nurses every time she cried. I will do anything to avoid another section this time around.

Sometimes a section is going to be unavoidable, but anyone who thinks it's the easy option is kidding themselves.........

 

[bettybee1]

I don't even think it should be a choice ? People obviously don't realise that ac section. Is a major major operation. !!!!

Iam going to do everything in my power too try and have a successful vbac !

Sections. Are they're for medical reasons and should not be there becoz someone is scared or can't be arsed too give birth! X