"too posh to push"

[Angelbaby_01]

I don't even think it should be a choice ? People obviously don't realise that ac section. Is a major major operation. !!!!

Iam going to do everything in my power too try and have a successful vbac !

Sections. Are they're for medical reasons and should not be there becoz someone is scared or can't be arsed too give birth! X

The way you say it is quite rude. I had an elective c-section and it's no-ones business why I did decide for it. Because someone else is scared of an operation doesn't mean we are, but you might not be scared of vaginal birth, but I might be. It's not for someone else to judge. A birth is a birth no matter the way it happened.

 

[Angelbaby_01]

Besides, where I am c-sections are considred safer by the most doctors. They are still for normal birth, but prefer c-sections because there is less risks involved.

 

[miraclebaba]

the way people talk about c section is like the worst sin one can ever commit. Women are so judgmental really. On the 26 th of March i will delivering my son by c section. i chose this way, i am comfortable with it. I don't want to push, not now not in the future. It is a personal choice for me and i don't think i am letting my son down or i will feel cheated. C section is another way of delivering and without it many babies an their mothers wouldn't have happy endings.

 

[My_First]

I don't even think it should be a choice ? People obviously don't realise that ac section. Is a major major operation. !!!!

Iam going to do everything in my power too try and have a successful vbac !

Sections. Are they're for medical reasons and should not be there becoz someone is scared or can't be arsed too give birth! X

Why do people "Obviously dont know its major surgery"? I have already been through an EMCS, and I know exactly what it is thanks, yet I am certainly considering having an elective section with my second. I was recovered from my first within two weeks, it really wasn't a big deal for me.

Also, how do you know how much someone is scared. Someone relly may have serious PTSD from thier first birth, or a phobia, which is going to make them really unwell. Does that justify it enough for you??? I don't think anyone has aid they cant be arsed, isn't it wonderful that we have the choice?

 

[Angelbaby_01]

I don't even think it should be a choice ? People obviously don't realise that ac section. Is a major major operation. !!!!

Iam going to do everything in my power too try and have a successful vbac !

Sections. Are they're for medical reasons and should not be there becoz someone is scared or can't be arsed too give birth! X

Why do people "Obviously dont know its major surgery"? I have already been through an EMCS, and I know exactly what it is thanks, yet I am certainly considering having an elective section with my second. I was recovered from my first within two weeks, it really wasn't a big deal for me.

Also, how do you know how much someone is scared. Someone relly may have serious PTSD from thier first birth, or a phobia, which is going to make them really unwell. Does that justify it enough for you??? I don't think anyone has aid they cant be arsed, isn't it wonderful that we have the choice?

Agreed with this.

 

[Celesse]

I do think you'd have to be completely nuts to choose to have someone slice through your abdomen unless it was to save the life or prevent trauma to you or baby. But I also think that the vast majority of women who have a c-section do so because there isn't any choice. And being at peace with your birth plan following a traumatic delivery has got to be a good thing right?

C-section versus natural is one of those almost pointless arguments. Women opting for vanity c-sections are few and far between. Everyone else has a psychological or physical reason for having a c-section.

I do think sometimes women don't have faith in their bodies to deliver naturally, but how can they when the medical professionals don't have faith in women either?!

 

[Jaycrew]

I personally have had 3 vaginal births and my vaja-ja is great LOL - And i agree with PP's that its better than before - my hubby can confirm as well

I also had 3 sections following those as well. First one was fetal distress (firmly believe because of the pitocin and forcing my labor since I wasnt producing contractions fast enough) second was a repeat with twins and the last was just because I had 2. so with that being said- Out of both experiences equal amount of times - I prefer vaginal and would never do a c section because of fear that my vagina would be ruined which is bs- and I would not do it to fit my life- its a baby. If it is medically necessary then fine - but to elect to have major surgery with NO medical justification is to me- ridiculous. My opinion and everyone has one- I personally would not do it - but to each their own.

Oh and BTW- Im having a VBA3C -knowing the risks of both options, I'm taking back my body- i'd rather vaginal delivery. Dont get me wrong I have endured both and giving birth is giving birth either way you do it. VBAC is not an option for everyone- but for me , Im doing it- after consulting with midwives and dr's before this pregnancy - they all agreed that I should not have been given pitocin and more than likely thats what triggered the distress and the twins could have been delivered VBAC and so could my last son. Its nice to now have a Dr that listens to me and has as much faith in my body as I do.

 

[Jaycrew]

Which ever way, I am then one of those posh mommies that can afford it since I have personal health insurance and asked for one and chose my date. But my birth would have ended in emcs anyway if I went normal. I see no problem with anyone that can afford it. Besides it's a way of giving birth, many emcs would be avoided had everyone the option to elect. I will have another c-section since vbac is not an option where I live.

Its not "elective" if you don't have an option to VBAC, it would be a repeat. And I get what you mean as having a previous c section and having another - I have been there 3 times. And I would not consider you to be "to posh to push." Totally get the fears that women have with regards to vbac and also the need to have c sections due to medical reasons/risks.

The question here is women who out right choose c sections based on convienience and vaginal "pride" NOT those who have it done out of medical necessity. Lots of women I know have had c sections and repeat c sections and c sections are no joke- having gone through it myself. Anyone who has one done- to me and endured through it -is the same as anyone who gave birth vaginally and is far greater than she knows. In fact maybe more because the recovery- whew! I give it to any mom!!!!! Hands down! birth in itself no matter which way the baby comes out- is a test of strength and endurance.

 

[SillyMoo1983]

Hmm I'm having to make the hard decision at the moment whether to VBAC or elective c section. My first labour was traumatic I have to admit. 12 hours in I had horrible pressure in my bum but was only 5cm, then they found baby was breech so off I went for an EMCS. Babys heartbeat dropped to 60bpm and was not happy.

I also suffer from ulcerative colitis, which means that when I need to go, I need to go! I will have seconds to get to the bathroom when I'm in a flare. I had my worst flare yet post birth and I'm expecting a repeat this time round. I couldn't leave the house for fear of accidents. My gastro dr has said that I have good reason for an elective, to cut the risk of damage to my pelvic floor. Basically, I don't want to be fecally incontinent for the rest of my life if something goes wrong with a VBAC. I need all the help I can get down there. I don't want to be going 10x a day with stitches down there to worry about either.

So, I would have my reasons for another section but it is not a decision I will take lightly. It's a bloody hard recovery! I still haven't made up my mind and I've been worrying about it since I got my BFP. I don't want to be judged for "wimping out" of a natural birth but I don't want to do it just to be brave either. As long as baby and me come out happy at the end of it I'll be happy. It's still giving birth, baby just takes a different route.

 

[toffee87]

I think the original poster was questioning non medical reasons, a lot of other posters had medical reasons.

I'm not against people choosing to have a c section for non medical reasons. I personally want to give birth naturally, but respect other peoples views. I do wonder though, are they significantly more common in the US? If so, could the fact that Dr's get more money from them be why it's more easily available? X

 

[mara16jade]

Its a personal choice, and no one should tell you you're wrong for choosing one over the other. Some people deal with surgical recovery just fine, while others don't. The fear of the unknown (for either a vaginal or csection) is nothing to gawk at. Fear is fear. And if you feel one way is better for you...then go for it. Who cares if someone else thinks you're crazy. You probably think they're crazy. Our body, our decision. I'm going to go into childbirth thinking I'm having a vaginal delivery. But if something happens, I'll be at peace with a csection. I've had surgeries before, I know my pain tolerance for surgeries well. I do not know my pain tolerance for a small football coming out of my va-jay-jay though. But whatever. I'm going in open minded. (And there are epidurals for a reason)

 

[edthedog]

Personally I don't give a monkey's how anyone else's baby makes it in to the world (but obviously hope they arrive safely) - your baby, your body, your choice; just that mine comes out whichever way is best at the time and is happy and healthy!

xxxx

 

[wookie130]

Each to her own. If we really want to "claim" our own bodies, than let's birth as we please, as long as baby and mother come out of it safely. There are lots of reasons to have c-sections, and honestly, not ONE of them are "wrong." Perhaps we ourselves don't understand the choice of someone else, or we'd do it differently, but that doesn't mean their choice is a mistake. And we shouldn't have to justify these choices to anyone, nor is it really anyone's business.

 

[mel28nicole]

As long as everything is safe, I feel like it shouldn't matter. My friend's sister wanted a home birth and everything that could possible go wrong did, and her son wasn't breathing and had to be life flighted to the hospital. Not that that has anything to do with an elective c-section, but if some people feel a c-section is the better option, then let them have it. My mom didn't have the best labor for me, and choose a c-section with my sister no questions asked. Her issue with me was that I was too big and she wasn't dilating, so she had a c-section. I personally would try for a vaginal birth the second time, but she didn't want to. Doesn't make her less of a woman because of it, and she never got down on herself for never trying for a vaginal birth.

Plus I think it is nice to have c-section, just for the fact that you know exactly when your baby is coming. Go in, get prepped, and within an hour you have your baby. Some have a good recovery, some have bad. I think if doctors didn't want people to have c-sections, they wouldn't offer them. My OB does not offer them unless you had an emergency one before.

 

[wookie130]

Something else that just entered my mind, is how irritated I get with the "too posh to push" catchphrase. If that meme is used to describe women who get c-sections for vanity reasons, than perhaps women who choose to deliver vaginally are "too posh for the big purple unglamorous scar that a c-section often leaves behind for years."

I'm just sayin'.

I mean, when you get down to it, are either types of birth particularly "posh"? I mean, if women are getting cut to preserve their vaginas, perhaps there are women who vaginally deliver to preserve the flawlessness of their skin on their bikini line!

Sounds ludicrous, doesn't it? Well, that's because it is.

 

[patchey]

I asked my doctor if I could have one, and he said no. It's only offered if there's a reason. Not fair.

 

[EarthMama]

It's up to the mother for how she wants to birth in our day and age, really. I agree that if a woman has huge amounts of anxiety and fear around vaginal delivery, then a csection is probably best because that fear and anxiety will only impede the vaginal birth process and possibly cause complications. Vaginal birth CAN be traumatizing for some women.

I had a successful homebirth with my son and aim to do the same this time. I personally would be disappointed and in fear if I had a csection with my birth. I would do it if medically necessary but a part of me would be sad and even traumatized. That's because I am way more comfortable with the idea of birthing naturally but not every woman is, and that's okay. In the end the most important thing is that mom and baby are safe.

 

[Foogirl]

Something else that just entered my mind, is how irritated I get with the "too posh to push" catchphrase. If that meme is used to describe women who get c-sections for vanity reasons, than perhaps women who choose to deliver vaginally are "too posh for the big purple unglamorous scar that a c-section often leaves behind for years."

I'm just sayin'.

I mean, when you get down to it, are either types of birth particularly "posh"? I mean, if women are getting cut to preserve their vaginas, perhaps there are women who vaginally deliver to preserve the flawlessness of their skin on their bikini line!

Sounds ludicrous, doesn't it? Well, that's because it is.

Quite right. Anyone who says a section is taking the easy way out obviously hasn't had one. The "Too posh to push" phrase is ridiculous. There is nothing glamorous about abdominal surgery. 12 Weeks before you are healed enough to do even light lifting? That's not so convenient. And is scheduling a section for a certain time and different to trying all those crackpot methods to bring on labour? The reality is many people like to try and control the uncontrollable and do it for many different reasons.

Why must we always want to cast judgement on other mums?

 

[mysteriouseye]

Exactly I explain this to my friend all the time it is not easy

 

[Jaycrew]

c section is not glamourous and im envious of women who dont have the "kangaroo pouch" from it - I have had 3 and a nice pouch and 3 scars to flaunt- but I still thank God my babies where born healthy. But I cant help but play with the pouch - It jiggles when I walk. Im petite to begin with and im very self conscious about my pouch. It looks like a complete seperation between my pubic bone and above my bikini line. I really hate it though- I wont lie. I know that sounds vain but- im sorry i dont like the aftermath of how I look after the c section. So long low rise jeans and bikini cut panties and thongs- hello anything that pulls up over my pouch.