Ttc number 3 :)

[spunky84]

Gypsy: That's awesome that you saw such positive changes so quickly! I had considered taking EPO for cm, but decided against it. I had read somewhere that it can also soften a c section scar. I'm not sure how true that is or if that would make a difference at this point, but I figured it'd be best not to if there was even the slightest chance. Hopefully the ewcm is a good sign, even if early, that this weekend is definitely it for you!

cns: I have a love hate relationship with IC... I love that they are so cheap, but I hate that it makes me think I can just pee away lol I think I've gone through close to 100 in this cycle I ordered more too

I'm honestly not sure about the control line. I don't have wondfo... I think... I only say that because I have Accumed brand, but they look exactly like wondfo, and I had read somewhere about there being knock offs or something. So not totally sure. I know that last weekend when my opks were very positive (darker than the control line) I could tell pretty much immediately before it even hit the control line because of how dark the test line was just from the initial saturation. I'm planning on doing an opk this afternoon. I'll take a pic at different times for comparison to see if that helps any.

Keeping fx on tomorrow's temps! It definitely sounds like you've O'd though based on everything else! That's strange about the same bbt reading. I was just checking FF and it was saying that a flat bbt could be your thermometer and may need a new one. How old is yours? I'd say if you get a few more of the same, especially if your thermometer is older, to try and get a new one. Either way, really hoping that you already O'd!



AFM, bbt this morning was 97.70 I'm trying to be cautiously optimistic. I'm the type that likes to be pessimistic just because I feel like that helps with disappointment if there is any lol I'd rather think the worst and be ecstatic when I get good news. If it's what I was expecting, I'm still disappointed, but it's not crushing disappointment. If I get too hopeful, then I just end up crushed, so it's easier emotionally to keep thinking the worst until I have something to confirm otherwise.

When I put it into FF this morning, it gave me solid cross hairs at CD 37 (last Friday) which was the day of my first positive opk. When I went back just a bit ago, it changed to dotted cross hairs same day, which I think dotted is more accurate especially given the 'detailed interpretation' which goes on about how my opk and other symptoms don't match the temp shift. I agree.

I think if I did, like actually did, it wasn't until Monday, possibly even yesterday. I'm more inclined to say Monday based on the other signs, including temp. But in keeping in spirit with what I know works best for me mentally and emotionally, I'm ignoring that and will keep doing opks since I now have another 40 I'd rather be wasting opks than pregnancy tests right now (I have about 15 IC which I need to save for when I hopefully really need them as I will be testing like crazy even with a bfp lol I tested 6 days in a row with DD. DH finally had to put his foot down lol).

With dotted cross hairs at CD 37 it says I'm 6 dpo which I don't believe is accurate. If I did O, which I really think would've been Monday or Tuesday, I'm only 1 or 3 dpo. Regardless, in my mind I'm ignoring the whole dpo stuff, will continue to happily use IC opks.

If I really did O, I really want to wait until the 14th to test (12 or 14 DPO). I'll probably get a frer too to be safe as I don't know how an IC would do then (I had a faint bfp with DD at 13 dpo on frer - so that's why). That's my birthday, so it'd an awesome birthday present (though deflating if it were negative). DH keeps asking what I want for my birthday and all I say is a baby in there I have my make up clinical that afternoon / evening, so I'll be gone when he gets home from work and with the kids. Sooo if by some miracle it is a bfp, after my clinical I'm thinking of going to the store and getting a gift bag or box. Then when I get home I can "open" it and tell him that way. I didn't get to tell him in any fun way with our first two, so I'm praying it all works out as I think this would be fun.

ETA: CP is high soft and closed??? Not sure what that's about, but not going to look too much into it. Aaaand I just added CP and CM into FF, which then changed it back to solid cross hairs???

 

[spunky84]

I went through and pull all of my cycle information into a bbt chart on count down to pregnancy. It showing ovulation not detected, but possible ovulation on CD 40 (Oct 31). I'm thinking it should update if my temps stay up. I'm thinking the 31st is more likely than the 28th (unless my temps are from what's gong on now which I'm sure is possible).

 

[Gypsy99]

Temp dip!!!! And ovulation pain. I'll be getting into it tonight

 

[spunky84]

Have fun Gypsy! Fx!



AFM, my opks have been obviously negative M-W. I expected the same very faint test line as I usually get. Now I'm wondering if temps really were from being sick and my body is trying to give it another go?

 

[cnsweeney]

Spunky - seems like you may def . Be gearing up again ! I say just keep on bd'ing to cover all your bases ! Lol
I think my thermometer is fine because I'm crazy and temp throughout the day just for fun lol . & it's been different . I think it's just one of them coincidental things ! We shall see tmw if the temp stays up !

 

[cnsweeney]

Temp stayed up today . Rose to 97.77 from 97.52 actually so it's getting higher this confirms I O'd Tuesday which officially puts me in the tww! 3dpo & I'm already getting impatient ! Lol

 

[spunky84]

Yay cns! When do you think you'll test? I noticed the cross hairs in your sig before I even got to your post lol


AFM, Temp today was 97.63. Only that one positive opk yesterday which was weird. Did it a couple of more times later and both were negative. BD this morning just in case. I wish I'd just get over this so I knew if my bbt rise was from illness or actual ovulation. I don't have a fever, but I know that illness in itself can cause inaccurate temps.

I'm going to keep doing opks and then probably move BD back to every other day or every couple of days to be safe.

 

[cnsweeney]

Spunky- I am getting a blood test at the doctors Tuesday ! So I will know Wednesday I have an appt for something else so figured I would get it done at the same time .
As for you , I'm starting to think your FF chart may have it right for your O date . Would that put you at 7dpo now ? With dd2 I was getting positive opks in the morning and negatives at night from 4dpo until 8dpo when I got a bfp on a frer. I heard opks can be positive mainly in the morning in early pregnancy . Kinda like how they tell you to use fmu with a pregnancy test because it is more concentrated . So maybe this is a good sign for you . Maybe you should take a test tomorrow morning ?!

 

[spunky84]

Exciting cns! Will you be able to get the results the same day or will you have to wait a day or two? That's so exciting that you'll know soon!

I'm really praying that FF was right! TTC is kind of an agonizing process. I hate, hate, hate just sitting around and waiting and speculating when only time will tell. It was kind of nice having DS be a surprise as there was none of this waiting and wondering. I was checking CP just so I could get to know my cycles better, but nothing in particular stood out. The only times it ever stood out was right around AF when it'd be low and firm. I thought I wasn't due for AF for a couple of days but knew it should've been low and firm at that point, and when it was very high and closed, I figured something was up. I checked my app and realized I was supposed to start that day. The next day, I finally believed it after an IC, FRER, and then ultimately CB weeks estimator lol

I just don't want to get my hopes up, which I already know that I do.

 

[Gypsy99]

Good looking chart cnsweeney!!

Spunky. Yes the waiting game sucks. i wish there was a way that we didn't have to go through all this horrible process and just had sex and got pregnant when we wanted too!


I would say I ovulated yesterday sometime. I feel quite grotty today. Not right, quite tired and almost nauseous. My temp has gone up .1 of a degree today too so time will tell tomorrow if my progesterone has done it's trick.

We managed to bd yesterday but it wasn't a very eventful one lol

 

[Katy78]

On to cycle 6 for me. I'm okay, all I have to do is look at my two boys and I know how lucky I am. And there's still time for getting pregnant again.

 

[spunky84]

Gypsy: Keep us posted on the temp rise! Fx!

Katy: I'm sorry Are you going to use femara or clomid this cycle again?


AFM, temp this morning 97.56, but I sat up and flopped to my other side, not realizing what time it was before I did it (a few minutes before temp time), so it's probably actually lower. Got up, went to the bathroom and went back to sleep until about 8. Temped again just to see and it was 97.56 again, so by adjusting the temps it would be 97.16 which sounds like it could be accurate for my normal temp time with the sitting up and moving to my other side.

Quite a drop Seems to be trending downwards from my highest. I've been on my antibiotic since Wednesday night, so now that things are probably starting to clear up, I'm guessing I'm starting to get more accurate temps which means I'm not sure if I did ovulate then or if I did, I'm guessing I'll be out either way. I'm not too hopeful.

I'm thinking about asking DH if we can ttc once I'm 4-6 months into working rather than waiting a year into working. Not much sooner, but a little bit sooner, and I can focus on getting my cycles more regular during that time. I feel better at the thought of starting even just starting 6 months earlier if we have to wait.

Neg opk this morning (both IC and CB -- I did wait the appropriate number of days lol testing the fmu yesterday first), attached.

I merged this chart with the one that I was pregnant with DD to see if I can see a comparison (green this cycle; pink preg with DD), but not sure that really matters though.

 

[spunky84]

To further confuse myself I've been charting with different apps.

FF - Did have solid cross hairs on CD 37, Oct 28.... I seriously need to stop playing with it... Counting down to pregnancy website shows possible ovulation on day 46 (Nov 2), but didn't confirm yet. So I did an ovulation override to see what our chances are if I did ovulate on the 2nd. When I removed the override it went back to CD 37, buuuut it went from solid cross hairs to dotted cross hairs. I'm not sure if my opk yesterday was positive or not. I had it as positive, and changed it to negative because I wasn't sure, so then FF changed dotted cross hairs to CD 42, Nov 2 (not solid though). If I put the positive opk back, it gives me solid cross hairs back at CD 37.

Count down to pregnancy website originally was showing possible ovulation day Monday the 31st (CD 40) but with today's temp, it moved me to Nov 2 (CD 42).

Ovia Fertility App - doesn't show definite ovulation and just shows possible ovulation on Sunday the 30th, CD 39.

Before we started ttc, I was using My Calendar to track cycles. I put in all of my temps and opks for the cycle (don't have anything for CP or CM) has ovulation mared down as CD 37, Oct 28.

I just need to stop... seriously. It's interesting though. So I feel like as long as the one app doesn't keep moving it out, then I'm going to say I probably did (as long as temps weren't inaccurate from illness). Even if it didn't happen until the 2nd, we at least BD'd Monday night.

I'm seriously moody and irritable today and just want to go back to bed. I've been very snippy today :/

 

[Gypsy99]

Lol sounds like me Spunky. I lost it yesterday after the kids were nagging me and the DH was cross with me for sorting a movies out for the kids on his computer. So I lost it and calmed down in the shower lol.

Fingers crossed 31st is your day.

Afm - took temp this morning and slowly building up. - slow riser. My CM has dried up a bit. I started drinking a coffee a day again and it's a really yummy caramel flavored one. need to stop again lol.

My CP is weird though. Im confused as its still high and slightly open. Can it take a while back completely close?

 

[cnsweeney]

Gypsy - mine is still high too and feels slightly open but they say women who have had vaginal deliveries always feel somewhat open compared to women who have not so I don't know ! Lol

 

[cnsweeney]

Sorry spunky - forgot to answer your question . I will get a phone call Wednesday . How nerve wrecking ! Lol. I thought of letting them call dh instead of me because I can't handle it haha

 

[spunky84]

I'll respond when I'm "officially" up for the day ... but temps are tremding down 97.48 this morning a steady decline over the last few days 97.70. I honestly just want to give up at this point and hope that dh still wants to do this on a couple years. I'm guessing my Temps either mean AF will be here shortly or that my Temps have been from being sick and i haven't even ovulated yet. Today is CD 46.

 

[cnsweeney]

Aw Spunky - you aren't out until AF shows ! Temps can get whacky for all kinds of reasons . Just keep tracking and stay positive fingers crossed for you !

AFM - I had a huge dip this morning as you guys can see on my chart . I'm only 5dpo. Def. isn't AF coming . & I think I had some cramps last night . Sometimes I wonder if it's in my head though haha . With dd2 I got a bfp 8dpo so I had to of implanted around 6dpo. So I'm wondering if this dip is implantation dip ?! Guess we will see if it shoots back up tmw !

 

[spunky84]

Gypsy: It's awful. I'm still pretty cranky even with another full nights sleep. I want to go back to bed, but I just can't seem to fall asleep. I'm hoping once the day goes on I'll start getting into a better mood. I think today is partially because DH told me last night that he took care of himself Friday night instead of getting me, and then last night wasn't able to get there last night. Plus the fact that was like the 5th pre-seed applicator that went wasted because of the same thing happening over the last week - we're all out now. We still have 1/4 tube of pre-seed left, but not anymore applicators. I'm still worried about it just in case my temps are inaccurate from being sick.

I'm not sure about CP, to be honest. Mine seemed open for like 5 days. It seemed HSO the day following Monday in which I had no other fertile signs other than CP. From what I've heard though, CP changes following O can vary in amount of time for each person. It sounds quite promising though that you O'd yesterday!


cns: I can't wait until you hear back! Hopefully they won't make you wait too long into the day. I'll be at school all day, but most of the afternoon will be waiting for my evening class, and I have a tendency to slack off and screw around during that time, so I'm sure I'll be stalking this thread until you update That dip looks really promising! I was reading that the dip needs to be at least 0.3, so looks great! I just checked out my chart from DD and I had a nice dip at 9 DPO (with a faint positive at 13 dpo). Fx!


AFM, I'm hope I didn't offend anyone with my last post on wanting to give up. i know others have had some hard times themselves, and I hope I didn't make anyone feel like I'm minimizing that for them.

I'm super tired. I couldn't fall back asleep after I got up to temp. I can't stop yawning and just want to go back to bed, but I can't seem to fall back asleep.

Cranky this morning as DH and I tried to BD last night just in case temps are off and inaccurate. He told me last night that he took care of things Friday night which that made it too difficult for him to finish last night. I think I'm more irked about the fact that it was the 5th or so wasted pre-seed applicator (now out) because of the same thing over the last week.

CP very high, firm, and closed. No idea on cm because pre-seed last night which seems to muck up cm the next day making it near impossible to be able to really tell.

I did a chart overlay from the gallery with mine which gives me slight hope as they look pretty similar.

I really have to focus on school work today and then have a clinical tomorrow afternoon and Tuesday morning, so I'm hoping the next 3 days wills be full of distraction and will probably help as I won't have the time to be so focused on ttc that I'll be over analyzing everything and end up disappointed when I have no reason to be at this point as there's nothing definitive either way.

ETA: The funny thing I noticed this morning is that I was comparing this cycle to the one I conceived DD. If am actually 9dpo today, then my temp is exactly the same at 9dpo with DD. 97.48 9dpo with her, and 97.48 9dpo with this cycle, IF I am 9 dpo, but still kind of funny I think. Also on the attachment, the pink line is my chart, the green is the gallery chart.

 

[cnsweeney]

I don't think you offended anyone ! You are entitled to feelings too ! This stuff is hard on all of us with the tracking , the waiting, and for some the disappointment of doing all of that just to get a bfn . So even if it's harder for others it doesn't take away from your stress and emotions . But that shows your character that you care for others

& wow spunky ! I would not get too worried or upset just yet! Your chart still looks great ! It's common to have some downward trends . It's when it drops majorly that it is a clue you're out . So hang in there !
AFM- I will keep everyone updated don't worry! Haha