Ttc number 3 :)

I will probably not do another blood test . I only did the one yesterday because I had to go to the doctors anyways for something else .
But I probably will test in the morning since it will be 9dpo then compared to 7dpo win the blood test :)
 
Gypsy - im so sorry things are like that with you and dh right now :( I'm sure I speak for everyone though when I say don't worry , we all struggle with things in our marriages and relationships . Maybe just lay it all out there for him and say you feel depressed and think he doesn't want you and for you it's not just about sex it's about the passion . See what he says and ask what he wants from you and tell him what you need from him . Maybe have a date night ? Dh and I try to have one once a month and it helps tons !
 
Thanks Sweeney. We have tried date nights but they always fall short and we have had such a rough couple of months. I know we need one though. I've already tried that, but he is super stubborn and everything is my problem not his. I always think why are we even trying for another baby as he will never change or adapt.

I'm worried today I am cramping to the left side and my cervix is lightly open / really yucky smelly brown discharge. Like a mix of old blood and creamy CM. It's like a follicle has burst or something.

I'm going to go see some of the old co-workers this afternoon and then onto a shower i think. Too early for implantation. So yuck :-(
 
Aw well fingers crossed for you ! It does seem too early for implantation but you never know !
As for you and your DH I really have you in my prayers !
 
I tested AGAIN this morning . BFN :(
I keep telling myself it could happen 10-13 dpo it's just discouraging because with both of my girls I got bfp's 8-9 dpo.but I know every pregnancy is different and I also heard boy fetuses get bfps later than girls so maybe there's something there too.. whatever I can tell myself to not feel completely out yet lol .
 
Gypsy: Don't apologize, really! Those kinds of issues are very real and can be hard to deal with. I speak as someone that has thought the same things with my DH. It impacts you in many ways, so please let it out here if you need to. Even if there's nothing we can do to help, I hope that it at least helps by getting it out and knowing that you're not alone in those feelings.

I'm sorry that he's not being receptive about how it's making you feel. I don't know if this is an option, but could counseling maybe help a bit? I get that if he doesn't think that there's an issue, but I think that there's an issue when he says it's your issue, not his, but really it is his issue because you're telling him how he's making you feel, and he's ignoring that. I'm only thinking counseling as maybe someone removed from the situation could help put things in perspective and maybe even get him to be more open about it and accepting of how it's making you feel. Maybe they can even help with some ideas to get you two back on track with everything.

I wish I could give you a big :hugs: because it truly feels like I'm looking into a distorted mirror. Only distorted because everything you're saying hits home so hard for me, but only with some slight differences. Please do come in here to talk about it if you need to. It's very hard and can feel lonely. We're here for you :hugs:


cns: Keep us posted on testing! Keeping fx!


AFM, temp stayed the same at 97.43 today with new thermometer. Old thermometer was up to 97.33 from 97.25. I'm wondering if getting the new thermometer was absolutely pointless lol

I'm not sure if I should just go back to the old one at this point (I have my temps from the last 2 days with the old as well so can change the info). I feel like it'll be inaccurate either way because of switching thermometers, so I feel like I have nothing to lose at this point.

I'm thinking of just going back to the old for the rest of this cycle. DH said he'd give me one more cycle, so I think I'll just switch to the new at the start of the new cycle which could theoretically be any day now (CD 50 today, last cycle CD 55) unless I'm actually still annovulatory and any temp shifts were illness or hormonal imbalance and it's just going to keep dragging on and on. So yeah, probably switching back to the old to finish out this cycle at the very least as that'll at least keep up with my old temps.

I'm really not hopeful about this cycle. I think my hormones are too screwed up. But all opks have been absolutely 100% without a question negative. If I did ovulation, I'm not sold on it being CD 37, but I'm guessing if I did it was anywhere from CD 37 - CD 42 (with dry cm starting CD 40 but with a blaring positive opk)

Today CP is high, soft, closed with dry cm. I removed all positive opks other than a couple as I feel like that could possibly be throwing FF off. I removed the one from CD 37. While I think it was positive, it wasn't blaringly so. CD 38 - 40 were without question. I removed the one from CD 40 though to hopefully eliminate any FF confusion. I figured especially since CB advanced digital opk had me at peak on CD 38. Most charts only show 2 +opk, so I figured it'd be best.

With removing +opk from, it put solid cross hairs at CD 38 -- put it back in out of curiosity and it stayed at CD 38.

I feel like O could've been CD 38, 40 or 42, but out of those, I feel like CD 38 would be most likely based on everything. That's when sex drive was through the roof and to the moon. CD 39 I felt totally deflated and just felt very different. Temp went from 96.81 to 97.15. I don't know much about fallback rise but I wonder if that's what CD 40 was.

I think CD 40 maybe because of the big dip, but cm was dry. Temp went from 96.37 to 97.21 (but that morning was the whole ear debacle with broken sleep). Possibly CD 42 because last really positive opk was CD 40 (once only around 4:30), but cm and cp don't seem to match up, but had a temp shift from 96.92 to 97.70 (but still with ear issues, both severely infected, so not sure if that played a part in that).

So.... yeah.... that's my overanalyzing for the day. I just wish AF would show already so I can do better with charting next cycle, especially as I feel like this extended cycle has given me more insight into my body (cm, cp, etc).


ETA: first pic is chart with new therm... second pic is chart with old therm. I know, I need to stop messing with it... I just feel like my chart is a little pointless at this point anyway.
 

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cns: I was just coming back in here to look at something from my recent post and noticed that we pretty much posted at the same time. Sorry! Sorry that it was negative again today :( Hopefully you'll be getting her bfp here in a couple of days :hugs:
 
Thank you spunky !
Looking at your charts , I really think you O'd on CD 40! :)
 
:-( my ovulation date has moved on FF. Im 100% out if that's right. I'm taking a break until next year if this ones a bust. I was convinced I Od in the weekend.

Thanks too CNS I've tried to get us to counseling a few times but because it's all my issues he doesn't want to. If I suggest I go by myself he doesn't like it because I'm talking to someone who doesn't know him.

Still no BDing and im cramping after all that gross discharge.
 
I just cheated and changed my temp by a dregree on Tuesday when I had that fall back rise. Its changed it back. I wonder if because this is the first full cycle temping for me it doesn't have the old information to be accurate enough.

Over analysing lol
 
cns: I'm definitely ok with CD 40! lol I think I'm just mainly worried about whether or not I O'd. I mean, I'm pretty sure I did, but I just worry between wonky bbt thermometer and illness. Even if we're not successful, I'll at least feel some comfort in knowing I O'd. Keeping fx for you tomorrow!


Gypsy: I'm sorry about the counseling :( It's not fair, though, about him not wanting you to go. My DH isn't all that into the idea of counseling, but was all for me going if I needed to go. I mean, our marriage hasn't exactly been the topic, but it has come up, and I even had him there for an appointment. But the bottom line is that you should be able to go if you feel that you would benefit from it :hugs:

That's strange about the cm and cramping! Is there any way you think it could be IB? I know it's a bit early, but just kind of reading what cns has said, it sounds like it could be a little earlier. I hope it clears up soon :hugs: And I totally get the over analyzing lol



AFM, nothing much new... I pretty much spent my day going over charts, googling, peeing on sticks, etc. There's a joke about how many people does it take to change a light bulb (or whatever variations...). I used so many tests today that I came up with "how many hpts need to be negative in 1 day to finally get it through your head that they're all going to continue being negative no matter how many times you test today" :haha: Einstein's definition of insanity...doing the same thing over and expecting different results :haha:

But seriously though, I over analyzed a lot... seriously a lot. I took this one this afternoon. I take a pic of every. single. test. Just so I can invert and scrutinize it for the tiniest possibility. I know it's nothing, but line eye is getting to me :nope:
 

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I'm a little crampy. I have ttc stuff on my amazon wish list for next cycle that I'm hoping will help. I'm thinking fertile cm to see if that helps instead of preseed.
 
Guessing my old bbt therm isn't all that off... :blush:

97.71 old bbt; 97.77 new.

I'm keeping all old temps on FF (using the old one first now), but since I have so many charts going, I'm keeping track of the new one too out of curiosity for comparison sake even though I know it won't be totally accurate since I'm doing one temp after the other.

ETA: I know you're not supposed to use the CB advanced opk after O, but I still have just to in case there was that small chance I didn't and temps were illness. They've been negative with blank circles. This morning was flashing smiley. From what I was looking up, it seems like it's just the estrogen surge before AF. IC opk darker than it has been, but negative.

First signal and FRER both negative. Though when I invert it seems like there's like the tiniest hint of something, but not completely, and I know it's just me seeing things :( I have family visiting tomorrow (mom's coming tonight, the rest of the family tomorrow around noon). While I'm just ready to start the next cycle, I want it to either to start today or Sunday. I want time to react to it without having to try and hide it from family.
 
My temp dropped significantly today :( same as on cd 5 . Has anyone heard of 2 dips like that ? It's not quite time for AF?
 
My temp dropped significantly today :( same as on cd 5 . Has anyone heard of 2 dips like that ? It's not quite time for AF?

I wonder if that could be your implantation dip? What time did you temp on CD 5? With it being an open circle,that temp could be inaccurate and actually may be higher.
 
The one today was a solid circle .. the one yesterday was an open circle because I took it an hour early . I was also wondering if maybe the cd5 was just a fluke thing and this is my implantation dip . Who knows ! Lol . It's official , I'm confused haha . I took an hpt today and to me it's a bfn but I swear I see SOMETHING. Or maybe I'm crazy . Maybe you guys can take a look . It's a real squinted sorry lol
 

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I'm guessing this is your ID now. It looks like CD 5 was the day of daylight savings. Didn't get up an hour earlier or something? If so, I think that can actually give you a lower reading. But I do think this is more likely your ID.

As for the test, not sure! I did an invert and really couldn't tell. I'm horrible with the blue dyes even with inverting. On one had I do think it's negative, but when I invert, I think I might see something, but it's so hard to tell. Like I said, I'm horrible with trying to read blue dyes either way lol


AFM, I'm expecting a temp dip in the next few days with AF starting soon. CP is now medium, soft, and open a bit. Not totally open, but without a doubt not closed. I'm just hoping AF waits at least until Sunday so I can properly sulk. Plus with getting the flashy smiley, if that means estrogen is rising, I'm positive that I'm out for sure.

ETA: I'm also packing away my hpts. If my temps stay up, I might test Monday. I might still do some opks just to fill the void lol but otherwise this is too disappointing.

Do you guys think I'd be okay if I had a drink tonight? I'm not talking full out binge drinking, but like 1 or 2 (tops) mike hard lemonades or something like that? I feel certain that I'm out, but I also don't want to risk compromising anything (even though I don't think there's a little bean to compromise).
 
Spunky - considering I conceived both of my children drinking WAY more than 1 or 2 mikes I say you're good ! Hahaha
Maybe you are right about the cd5 daylight savings ! Guess only time will tell . I understand what you mean about just worrying that you are indeed ovulating even if you aren't pregnant this month . I got pregnant fairly easily with my other children but I get ovarian cysts often that cause me to not ovulate . It's like the egg gets stuck and forms a cyst . I think the Mirena I had in 2010 caused them . :(
 
cns: I actually drank a before I knew with DD and DS. With DD I was 100% certain it was impossible for me to be pregnant so had 1 glass of wine (11 dpo actually). With DS I didn't even know that pregnancy was a chance (he was a lovely surprise!) and had not a ton, but more than I would normally on New Years Eve. I remember almost hitting the floor when I had a positive pregnancy test. I thought I was being silly for even thinking to test (I was 1 day late).

I didn't know that about you with the Mirena! I had the Paragard. I know it's non-hormonal, but I blame that for my irregular cycles. My cycles were just fine until I had that thing in.


Did anyone have ewcm after ovulation? I had zero ewcm this cycle (I can't remember the last time I did, actually... probably not since before conceiving DD). I'm not 100% sure if that's what I have, but it definitely seems like it... (it's been so long lol).

DH and I BD last night, but I'm pretty sure everything was out. I checked CP and CM a few times today, and I was seriously dry. The last 2 times I went to the bathroom I had what looked like ewcm on the toilet paper. The second time I checked and (tmi) it was like a freakin slip n slide... It wasn't totally stretchy like ewcm, but I think if I had checked before I went to the bathroom, I think i would've had enough to do so. So since everything was dry all day until recently, it makes me think it's not left overs... or could it be? It was like 10:30 last night. and cervix seems more closed now, and soft again.

Thoughts?

ETA: some more slight cramping now. Five bucks says my temp will be down tomorrow. Though I guess it makes sense -- Flashing smiley = increase in estrogen which can (or is supposed to) increase cervical fluid. Unless I never actually ovulated, and this is it now??? Not to be more tmi, it kind of feels like it's just leaking out.

My mom is staying over tonight and then family is visiting tomorrow, so I had to hide all of my ttc stuff. I have my last CB advanced opk, IC opk, and a First signal stashed somewhere easy that I can grab it and then hopefully sneak it into the bathroom. I at least want to do the last CB advanced opk. The IC can wait, and I'd really prefer to try and hold off on the First Signal until at least Monday (not that I think I'll make it that far without AF showing).
 

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