Uk election

I am so undecided. If i am honest i dont feel like there is a stand out party at the moment.

I sort of feel like Corbyn is trying to be Robin Hood, you cant keep taking from the Rich to feed the poor. I know their 30 free nursery hours sounds great as well as the free school meals but i dont expect things like that. I am happy to pay for my childrens lunch and part of me would rather they put that money into the nhs or resources to reduce school class sizes. I just cant see how his figures all add up.

I really liked the lady from the green party but am definitely not 'green' so feel hypocritical.

I have always quite liked the tories, yes i figure i will be blasted for this. I hate fox hunting etc but also like their philosophy of 'the best way out of poverty is to work' thats how we lived as children, my mum and dad is everything 2/3 jobs if necessary to provide for us and i respect them no end for it. I just worry about the privitisation of the nhs. I have private medical through my employer but to add my OH and DD on is so expensive it does worry me slightly how much all this will cost.

After all this i suppose i will vote labour but its definitely not without worry.

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Working your way out of poverty is all well and good if you have the means to do that, some people simply cannot. Again, you might be willing and able to pay for your children's school lunches but for some children that's the only decent meal they get because their parents may not be able to afford much for a whole host of reasons.
 
Jessy you're definitely not the only one worrying! I'm voting labour and always have done with conviction but I'm definitely not as sure this time. Weirdly, I am more happy with Jeremy Corbin since the tv debates and more unsure about where the money is coming from. I also don't expect free childcare from age 2. But then again non means tested policies are the only way to help the squeezed middle I guess.
I feel the responsibility of it weighing down on my shoulders sometimes, what kind of world are we leaving to our kids... maybe our parents felt like this too
 
Is it not true that the tories have made the national debt worse anyway? So they're all about the economy but they can't even sort that out. I was talking about this to hubby and he says there is a strong argument for needing to spend money to get ourselves out of this recession. I don't know enough about it
 
I dont know enough about it either and definitely feel like one of the squeezed middle. Not rich enough for the high tax band but not 'poor' enough to qualify for tax credits or benefits at all. We are not high earners by any means but we both work and scrimp and save for everything we own. So where do people like us stand i dunno. I am at a loss.

I totally agree Char but i thought free school meals were always available for those on benefits?
 
I agree that you should work your way out of poverty.

In theory it's great. Why not work?

In reality it doesn't work like that. Why should you have to work 3 jobs? Why is full time on minimum wage not enough to live?

Yeah our parents generation worked damn hard. But so do we. OH and I don't work opposite hours for the fun of it.

People don't want to stand for being told we're poor because we're lazy. We want to work. We want to have a family life. We want to pay for childcare and have money left afterwards. We're not snowflakes, we're not being bratty or sulky. We know the government aren't being fair. The working poor always suffer. You say children on benefits get free meals anyway. But working parents dont get help and they're often worse off. A working wage sounds good. But what's left after bills, tax, etc?

I for one am sick of it all. I work an important job thats seen as low. We can't afford for OH and I to work full time. And how can it be that 2 adults can't afford to both work full time jobs? Something has gone wrong. The tories haven't made mistakes. They know exactly what they're doing. And it's never them that suffer the effects.
 
I agree that you should work your way out of poverty.

In theory it's great. Why not work?

In reality it doesn't work like that. Why should you have to work 3 jobs? Why is full time on minimum wage not enough to live?

Yeah our parents generation worked damn hard. But so do we. OH and I don't work opposite hours for the fun of it.

People don't want to stand for being told we're poor because we're lazy. We want to work. We want to have a family life. We want to pay for childcare and have money left afterwards. We're not snowflakes, we're not being bratty or sulky. We know the government aren't being fair. The working poor always suffer. You say children on benefits get free meals anyway. But working parents dont get help and they're often worse off. A working wage sounds good. But what's left after bills, tax, etc?

I for one am sick of it all. I work an important job thats seen as low. We can't afford for OH and I to work full time. And how can it be that 2 adults can't afford to both work full time jobs? Something has gone wrong. The tories haven't made mistakes. They know exactly what they're doing. And it's never them that suffer the effects.

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Not forgetting the generation before us had it easier, they could get full time jobs and buy their own houses :shrug:

The tories are for people with money, end of story. If you're not a rich you're going to be screwed by a Tory government.
 
I was also with the Tory meritocratic ideal, for 7 years my husband and I have worked our arses off from a flat on benefits to careers and owning our own home, but we have flown straight into the squeezed middle, of course I am proud that we pay our own way, that we don't even need tax credits anymore, happy to pay our taxes, but we are now seeing cuts in so many ways from wage freezes to childcare increases, the Tories are NOT for working people, they are for wealthy people.
 
Again I agree. My OH and I used to work opposite shifts. Never had a day off together for the first 2.5 years of my DDs life because we couldnt afford childcare. Havent been on an abroad holiday in 7 years. I get it trust me.

I am just not sure i can trust all they promise.
 
I always view it as in what's better for all, or future generations. Probably voting labour is best for our family NOW but I don't feel right about it. I hate voting into the system that I feel is unfair. Personally things like free school meals do not affect us but I hate the idea of poverty in our country. We need to help others not just our own. If I have to give something up so a child can eat then so be it. I honestly don't care if the parents are benefit claimers, it's not the kids fault.

School cuts are making me so mad.

I vote green every time. I have to say I currently have not watched tv in 6mths, I do not look at news Web pages and I am not on Facebook so I have little idea of what they are all saying right now!
 
The money put into schools, the NHS and social care will be coming from the top. Companies with millions or billions, companies that may not even be paying any tax at the moment. People shouldn't have to work 2/3 jobs to get by, we all deserve to enjoy life.
I really like the idea of equality at school as well, there was certainly a stigma in our school when presenting a dinner ticket and free school meals for all totally eliminates this.
I really don't understand why people who aren't millionaires would vote Tory. We have Tory posters up in our area 'for a strong and stable future'. WTF does that mean? Lol.
 
I agree that you should work your way out of poverty.

In theory it's great. Why not work?

In reality it doesn't work like that. Why should you have to work 3 jobs? Why is full time on minimum wage not enough to live?

Yeah our parents generation worked damn hard. But so do we. OH and I don't work opposite hours for the fun of it.

People don't want to stand for being told we're poor because we're lazy. We want to work. We want to have a family life. We want to pay for childcare and have money left afterwards. We're not snowflakes, we're not being bratty or sulky. We know the government aren't being fair. The working poor always suffer. You say children on benefits get free meals anyway. But working parents dont get help and they're often worse off. A working wage sounds good. But what's left after bills, tax, etc?

I for one am sick of it all. I work an important job thats seen as low. We can't afford for OH and I to work full time. And how can it be that 2 adults can't afford to both work full time jobs? Something has gone wrong. The tories haven't made mistakes. They know exactly what they're doing. And it's never them that suffer the effects.

All the yes' for this. I'm fed up of hearing our parents and grandparents worked hard for their money as if we don't work hard. We work hard too. We pay our taxes too. We deserve more then running to stand still
 
i'm voting SNP because i'm in scotland. if i lived in england i would be voting labour for the first time ever though!
 
I genuinely don't know who to vote for 😟.

Not conservative!

All the other parties barring UKIP have positives. Conservative scares me as a working mum. May is unable to provide any detail around the costing for her manifesto, the pledges are geared towards the wealthy and are self serving. If we stay conservative I see a time in the very near future where we lose work benefits like paid sick leave and emergency childcare days, where minimum wage continues to not follow cost of living so we'll all be worse off, where the Nhs is disbanded and we go to an American health insurance model and schools are squeezed to the point where they can only operate part time and at low quality due to staff cuts. Not to forget she's trying to remove the 'minimum term' rule so she could elongate her term of rule.

I'm voting labour because the manifesto meets most of my requirements and because while I don't necessarily agree with everything Corbyn says, I respect that he is honest and sticks to his beliefs.

I'm disgusted with the media coverage that keeps harping on about a meeting Corbin had with IRA leaders decades ago (all the other party leaders had the same meetings) but brushes past May signing an arms deal with Saudi Arabia just a couple of weeks ago. And all the Diane abbot maths insults are ludicrous, does anyone really believe that if labour wins abbot would have 100% control over the countries finances with no one checking the working or involved in the process?
 
I won't be voting as my card didn't arrive to new address. First time ever!
 
You can still go and vote even without a polling card. Take Id with you though.
 
You don't actually have to take ID though. I'd feel better if I had it with me.
 
I can't recall being sent out one. Either that or I've misplaced it! I'm just going to take ID with me when I go to vote tomorrow :)
 
It says on my polling card that I don't need it anyway, just go along. Surely trying and succeeding is better than not going at all!
 

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