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[twotogo]

Okay, Baby, here is a good article I found on a short LP. Hope this helps!
https://natural-fertility-info.com/luteal-phase-defect.html

Thank you!! That was very informative and helpful! If I don't get my bfp this cycle I will add B6, EPO and maybe something else. Right now I am using baby aspirin, preseed, prenatals, a B complex with folate but only 10mg of B6, and have done 5 rounds of acupuncture for fertility and thyroid. I suffer from malabsorption due to food allergies so I don't absorb vitamins and nutrients like normal people do. I used to get weekly B and D shots when I was sick w/ Lyme. Damn antibiotics have ruined my system!

I so understand. I also have multiple food allergies, and it really stinks.
How long were you sick with Lyme?

They don't know exactly since I never found the tick or a bulls-eye mark. Now they are thinking it can be transferred by mosquitoes. Great.

Since they found it in my brain I probably had it a long time as it takes years to get into the brain. My guess is 5+years. I had severe cognitive impairment, and my brain scan looked like that of a stroke victim...dark colors showing little blood flow. I couldn't remember how to get home 8 blocks from my apt. It was bad. It's such a common disease in the Northeast as deer are becoming a serious problem.
They multiply like rabbits!

Oh, my! So sorry you had to go through that!

 

[Babywhisperer]

Okay, Baby, here is a good article I found on a short LP. Hope this helps!
https://natural-fertility-info.com/luteal-phase-defect.html

Thank you!! That was very informative and helpful! If I don't get my bfp this cycle I will add B6, EPO and maybe something else. Right now I am using baby aspirin, preseed, prenatals, a B complex with folate but only 10mg of B6, and have done 5 rounds of acupuncture for fertility and thyroid. I suffer from malabsorption due to food allergies so I don't absorb vitamins and nutrients like normal people do. I used to get weekly B and D shots when I was sick w/ Lyme. Damn antibiotics have ruined my system!

I so understand. I also have multiple food allergies, and it really stinks.
How long were you sick with Lyme?

They don't know exactly since I never found the tick or a bulls-eye mark. Now they are thinking it can be transferred by mosquitoes. Great.

Since they found it in my brain I probably had it a long time as it takes years to get into the brain. My guess is 5+years. I had severe cognitive impairment, and my brain scan looked like that of a stroke victim...dark colors showing little blood flow. I couldn't remember how to get home 8 blocks from my apt. It was bad. It's such a common disease in the Northeast as deer are becoming a serious problem.
They multiply like rabbits!

Oh, my! So sorry you had to go through that!

Aww thanks girl. It could always have been worse, ya know. If that is my cross to carry I'll take it. Btw, true dreary Fall day in NY today. Grey, rainy, and coldish. Dh wants to go shopping for a ski jacket....and the award for jumping the season goes toooooo At least he's awake now!

Where is everyone? Coy? Ali? Jess?

 

[alicatt]

I was going to say good morning, but I just realized it is afternoon here! I've been up for a while, but just not doing much of anything.

Baby.. so sorry about your ordeal with Lyme that sounds horrible and very scary. I am glad you are over the worst of it. Have you done any research on whether it can effect your fertility? I was curious if there were any studies done about it. Might be worth looking into, as you just never know! I'm hoping that there isn't but I am always one that wants to research everything! Bad Ali I know!

As for your DH wanting you to be friends with his ex, that is just ridiculous! When he married you part of that was giving up his relationships be it platonic or otherwise with other women! That is the bottom line, there are not if's ands or butts. It is just how it goes, it doesn't matter if she is still friendly with his brothers or his parents, she is now part of his past. Now if they end up at the same party or his brother tells him how she is doing, thats fine! These things are going to happen, but as for him maintaining any relationship with her that is just wrong and to ask you to be part of it is disrespectful to you! When he got married, he pledged to be yours, and only yours, you are supposed to be his best friend and is wife, he should not need to have other female friends. I don't know how you can get out of it, but I think it is a terrible idea, and him making you feel guilty for it is just wrong. You made vows to be together forsaking all others, that is what marriage is. Sorry if I sound harsh, but I've just seen too many relationships get wounded over things like this, and I don't want to see you get hurt.

I also meant to say it days ago, but I was sorry to hear about your lost pregnancy when you were younger. You shouldn't feel guilty about it, as you did the right thing at the time. Don't think that because you did this you are somehow not allowed to have a child. One of my best friends did the same thing when she was 18 and went on to have 3 very healthy boys in her mid-30s. Don't you stress about it, or feel guilty for it. Just think of it as a past loss, and look towards the future being bright!

 

[jm1355]

Good afternoon ladies!

Just a quick post...I have a lot of work to finish today on my thesis.

Ali...are you testing tomorrow? I'm so excited for you!!

Coy...how are you feeling?

TwoToGo and Baby...yall certainly have been the chatty ones today!
I understand about the weepy and emotional bit. I usually get that way when I am feeling insecure about something in my life...including my relationship.
But as soon as I refocus my energies on improving ME and helping ME, well, then I begin to feel better. But it is definitely an effort to get there...
Very irritating that BF thinks it is a choice to be that way...like I would actually choose to be miserable, sad, emotional, and weepy.
Why doesn't he understand that if he were a little more helpful around the house, a bit more comforting too, that it would make a world of difference? Probably because he really believes it is a choice to feel that way...
Today when I got home from the gym, I put a list of chores on the grease bored on the fridge. I completed two of the ten and started one...then I left a note on next to the list that says "Feel free to complete ANY of the chores..." I wonder what my son and BF will do with the list...

 

[alicatt]

Coy - that priest or clergyman is a total dingbat! He is making something intimate and family oriented and trying to make it formal and rigid. Tell him to take a hike and have your Grandpa over without him knowing to have your prayer group. He is nuts if he thinks that you have to dress up to be seen by the eyes of God. Wasn't Jess quoting verses from the Bible just the other day that told us not to worry about the clothes we wear? That my is small minded and not worth your time. I do think it is nice to get dressed up to go to church on Sundays, there is just something about seeing a family dressed up and on their way to church, little girls in their dresses and boys in dress pants and little ties. I know, its probably overkill, but I like the image. My point is that while it is nice to dress up for Sunday church, it is not a necessity to worship. You know? BAA.. you were right he is a dingbat, and I quite like how it rolls of the tongue too!


How are you feeling? Is babes going to pop out soon? Can't wait until she does!

 

[jm1355]

Oh, and Baby, I agree with Ali...she is part of his past and needs to remain there. My BF has an ex that keeps in touch with him. The don't see each other. I have made it very clear to him that is unacceptable. The good thing is, he feels the same way. There are two in my life who would love to keep in touch with me. So he knows if he does it, I will too! What's good for the goose is good for the gander... He knows how it would make him feel and he says he doesn't want to risk "us" for the sake of her...or anyone else. Whew!

 

[alicatt]

AFM - well I don't have good news. The cramping and lower back pain is with me like you wouldn't believe. I stupidly took another HPT this morning and it was stark white (FRER) not even a hint of a positive. I am currently 10dp5dt or 15dpo, AF would be coming today or tomorrow if I weren't on the progesterone supplements. I was reading that there are some women that don't excrete hCG in their urine until they are 6-8 weeks along or sometimes even later. That could be me, as I barely had a positive the day after I did the hCG shot which was 10,000 iu! I mean that should have registered as a mega positive, and it was just barely there. So I am hoping that is what is going on here. I am still getting all the other signs... headache, cramping low and in those to areas, night sweats, sore boobs, etc. Plus my temp keeps rising, but it only really started to do so yesterday. So IDK, maybe it just too my embryos a really long time to implant? Is that even possible? I have no idea what to think at this point, I'm gearing for the worst but hoping for a miracle. If it doesn't work it is just going to be so devastating as I literally have no other options. I can't afford another IVF cycle and I don't have a man to try the 'natural' way. So this is my last chance.

 

[jm1355]

AFM - well I don't have good news. The cramping and lower back pain is with me like you wouldn't believe. I stupidly took another HPT this morning and it was stark white (FRER) not even a hint of a positive. I am currently 10dp5dt or 15dpo, AF would be coming today or tomorrow if I weren't on the progesterone supplements. I was reading that there are some women that don't excrete hCG in their urine until they are 6-8 weeks along or sometimes even later. That could be me, as I barely had a positive the day after I did the hCG shot which was 10,000 iu! I mean that should have registered as a mega positive, and it was just barely there. So I am hoping that is what is going on here. I am still getting all the other signs... headache, cramping low and in those to areas, night sweats, sore boobs, etc. Plus my temp keeps rising, but it only really started to do so yesterday. So IDK, maybe it just too my embryos a really long time to implant? Is that even possible? I have no idea what to think at this point, I'm gearing for the worst but hoping for a miracle. If it doesn't work it is just going to be so devastating as I literally have no other options. I can't afford another IVF cycle and I don't have a man to try the 'natural' way. So this is my last chance.

Ali...stay positive girl! You're gonna make me cry! ...I know...we can set up a website for you to find the perfect sperm donor for "natural conception." We can conduct online interviews, require pics, health history, a bio...the whole nine yards!!

 

[alicatt]

AFM - well I don't have good news. The cramping and lower back pain is with me like you wouldn't believe. I stupidly took another HPT this morning and it was stark white (FRER) not even a hint of a positive. I am currently 10dp5dt or 15dpo, AF would be coming today or tomorrow if I weren't on the progesterone supplements. I was reading that there are some women that don't excrete hCG in their urine until they are 6-8 weeks along or sometimes even later. That could be me, as I barely had a positive the day after I did the hCG shot which was 10,000 iu! I mean that should have registered as a mega positive, and it was just barely there. So I am hoping that is what is going on here. I am still getting all the other signs... headache, cramping low and in those to areas, night sweats, sore boobs, etc. Plus my temp keeps rising, but it only really started to do so yesterday. So IDK, maybe it just too my embryos a really long time to implant? Is that even possible? I have no idea what to think at this point, I'm gearing for the worst but hoping for a miracle. If it doesn't work it is just going to be so devastating as I literally have no other options. I can't afford another IVF cycle and I don't have a man to try the 'natural' way. So this is my last chance.

Ali...stay positive girl! You're gonna make me cry! ...I know...we can set up a website for you to find the perfect sperm donor for "natural conception." We can conduct online interviews, require pics, health history, a bio...the whole nine yards!!

thanks for making me laugh! I'm sitting here trying to scheme on how to get another chance.. if only I'd had some embryos to feeze! Or maybe I have to use a donor egg? IDK. It is just disheartening sitting here knowing that it probably didn't work, and having to wait to hear the official results on Monday (while at work). GROAN.

 

[Babywhisperer]

I was going to say good morning, but I just realized it is afternoon here! I've been up for a while, but just not doing much of anything.

Baby.. so sorry about your ordeal with Lyme that sounds horrible and very scary. I am glad you are over the worst of it. Have you done any research on whether it can effect your fertility? I was curious if there were any studies done about it. Might be worth looking into, as you just never know! I'm hoping that there isn't but I am always one that wants to research everything! Bad Ali I know!

As for your DH wanting you to be friends with his ex, that is just ridiculous! When he married you part of that was giving up his relationships be it platonic or otherwise with other women! That is the bottom line, there are not if's ands or butts. It is just how it goes, it doesn't matter if she is still friendly with his brothers or his parents, she is now part of his past. Now if they end up at the same party or his brother tells him how she is doing, thats fine! These things are going to happen, but as for him maintaining any relationship with her that is just wrong and to ask you to be part of it is disrespectful to you! When he got married, he pledged to be yours, and only yours, you are supposed to be his best friend and is wife, he should not need to have other female friends. I don't know how you can get out of it, but I think it is a terrible idea, and him making you feel guilty for it is just wrong. You made vows to be together forsaking all others, that is what marriage is. Sorry if I sound harsh, but I've just seen too many relationships get wounded over things like this, and I don't want to see you get hurt.

I also meant to say it days ago, but I was sorry to hear about your lost pregnancy when you were younger. You shouldn't feel guilty about it, as you did the right thing at the time. Don't think that because you did this you are somehow not allowed to have a child. One of my best friends did the same thing when she was 18 and went on to have 3 very healthy boys in her mid-30s. Don't you stress about it, or feel guilty for it. Just think of it as a past loss, and look towards the future being bright!

I haven't researched Lyme and fertility, mostly b/c I'm afraid to put negative things in my head. I'm hoping acupuncture restores the natural rhythm and energy, basically balance things. If I don't get a bfp this year I will see a RE as Lyme has ruined my thyroid.

As far as DH goes, you know when you want something and you can't have it and it only makes you want it more? You also know how we can sometimes romanticize the past, well I plan to give him the chance for all of us to meet, they can catch up, I can see how she is towards him and me, so he won't resent me by thinking I'm preventing them from being friends. If she is rude towards me, he'll see I am right. If she crosses boundaries, he'll see that I am right. I am sure being around her will remind him of why they broke up, and how he is better off with me. She is a town bar fly, doesn't want to go to college or improve herself. She is unsophisticated and 1-dimensional to say the least. All of his friends have told me they used to get upset when they'd get back together after breaking up. And they have all told him how good I am for him. He was never going to marry her, he never felt that way about her...which is why when we got engaged in 8mos she flipped out.

As far as spouses having friends of the opposite gender, I see no issue. I have guy friends and he's fine with that. Dh has tons of friends that are girls, his ex is the only ex he is still friends with though. He has a big heart and feels badly for her. They share a deep common bond of their Father's passing tragically. I can't force him to choose, and I don't want her to create a wedge. There has to be boundaries, but I will support him as long as it is respectful of me and our marriage. I think if we meet it won't be so strange when she does come around the family. I'm basically giving her every opportunity of proving my reasons for being cautious to be well founded. If she's harmless then no harm no foul. I mean, how much is she going to want to be around us when we are affectionate towards each other and I remind her of what she doesn't have? I do think though, that she thinks they are hanging out alone and that I'm not coming. When he said let's hang out Friday the 12th, he was including me obvi it's a weekend night, but I sincerely doubt she assumes I'm coming along. If she acts weird and uncomfortable, then it will be hard for him to deny that she hasn't moved on.
This was bound to happen at some point, at least I won't be caught off guard.

Thanks for your kind words. We have all been through a lot in our short lives and we deserve happiness & bfp's!! Dh and I went to brunch and there was our town's homecoming parade tying up traffic. He turned to me and said "I can't wait to take our kids to this parade and then pumpkin picking." Then he let out a deep sigh of gratitude and apologized for upsetting me last night. I am under a lot of stress and he is being helpful by marking up my new employment offer with comments and protective clauses. This job will be a lot of stress but it will afford us more options as to where to live. He knows I could leave my job in the city and join a firm out here and take a significant pay cut and not have to commute 2hrs a day, but that puts more of the financial stress on him. This means I will be the breadwinner until he makes partner. That's how I see us as a team. I hope we are blessed with 2 children, then maybe I will take a job out of the city.

Ok funny/not so funny thing...at brunch dh wanted and ordered "the runniest eggs on my eggs benedict please" and I warned him he could get sick. He insisted people eat raw eggs and cookie dough. 5min after he was finished his stomach started hurting and he ended up getting sick. Someone has to learn for himself...and he will on Friday, Oct 12th.

 

[Babywhisperer]

AFM - well I don't have good news. The cramping and lower back pain is with me like you wouldn't believe. I stupidly took another HPT this morning and it was stark white (FRER) not even a hint of a positive. I am currently 10dp5dt or 15dpo, AF would be coming today or tomorrow if I weren't on the progesterone supplements. I was reading that there are some women that don't excrete hCG in their urine until they are 6-8 weeks along or sometimes even later. That could be me, as I barely had a positive the day after I did the hCG shot which was 10,000 iu! I mean that should have registered as a mega positive, and it was just barely there. So I am hoping that is what is going on here. I am still getting all the other signs... headache, cramping low and in those to areas, night sweats, sore boobs, etc. Plus my temp keeps rising, but it only really started to do so yesterday. So IDK, maybe it just too my embryos a really long time to implant? Is that even possible? I have no idea what to think at this point, I'm gearing for the worst but hoping for a miracle. If it doesn't work it is just going to be so devastating as I literally have no other options. I can't afford another IVF cycle and I don't have a man to try the 'natural' way. So this is my last chance.

Ok please no more testing until your Beta, it's driving you crazy and making you spiral. Rising temps is a good sign! So is the sweats, cramps, lower back pain, and sore bbs! Don't think of the worst possible scenario yet. Wait until Monday to see what the Dr says. I will start a fundraiser or help you find a dr to do this pro bono if it comes down to it. My coworker's sister was renting a house with her 2 autistic sons and there was an electrical fire and they lost everything. We started an online fundraiser and they have raised 12k so far!! But don't despair, it is still early for some people. Try and enjoy the weekend and stay positive. Big gigantic from NY. Praying for you.

 

[Grey Eyes]

Babywhisperer- I am sorry you are going through this with your dh...I am glad you trust him but it's something I couldn't let my dh do- and something he's never asked. I let him know right up front (good lord he had women stalking him for crying out loud when we got married!) women friends were a no-no...To be friendly- yes, that's fine, but friends? Like hang-out buddies? That'd be tough, and definitely an individual choice. As long as you are comfortable and confident with what you choose Re: your chart. Looks awesome! Nice high temp! I am wondering if this is your bfp month...no guarantees of course, but when I got my bfp it spiked up into the 98's right after. Hmmm Looks positive! And temps don't just keep rising they generally get high and stay there after a bfp Let's see what ff says about it in a few days--have you been putting all your info in there? Oh and about the Lyme...what do you mean bulls-eye mark? Because both of my girls have had (over the last few months) at least one little red scab looking circle on their hip- it fades from the center out and becomes a red ring that hurts when you rub ointment on it. I am frustrated! Because the little one also is getting these unexplainable rashes...it looks like a skin-color welt that raises up and is itchy. I put Benadryl crème and it goes away but in a few days can come back...It's driving me crazy. dh and I have worried about ticks, ringworm- you name it. I'll just have to take them to the doctor and see... The Eggs Benedict had me rolling btw! Serves him right! Ugh, I haven't been able to eat Sunnyside up for years--my brother grossed me out once by poking a straw into each egg and sucking the yolks out

TwoToGo- your chart has me wondering! Still nice and high, a small dip, but seems to go in line with this jiggy pattern you got going...Still waaaay above your cover line though and in the 98's! 8 dpo today...do you plan on testing at all the next few days? Hmmm...weepy? Fat? Ugly? You sure sound prego! Wow, I hope you get your part time job, that'd be awesome for you! Aaargh I would love to go back to work, financially we are always strained it seems a miracle happens every month to see us through! But 1) no one will hire a pregnant lady (even if it's against the law to say no because of that) 2) this town sucks and has no jobs available and I can't afford to commute! Nuts!

Jess- I LOVE your list idea! I've been thinking of doing that with T as she is almost 8 and really needs to start taking her responsibilities seriously. I need to do something so I am not reminding her 4-5 times a day Wow, I hope you get your thesis finished so you get some relax time! How are you feeling?

Ali- I know you are trying hard to stay positive and I understand you're feeling frustrated! Yes, some women just don't register hcg as highly and that could def be the factor in your case. I know you are feeling keyed up and nervous about your Beta Monday- I would too. You have invested everything in this cycle and you want the absolute best and positive answer- a !! I personally think that is the answer you will get! But try not to look negatively at anything...if this isn't a bfp then the future will bring one I am sure. The future's just gotta bring sperm and money with it Honestly because IVF brings such different symptoms with it is so hard to tell what is happening. So best to rely on hat your doc is telling you and get the Beta From what I have read that is what they recommend during IVF -- try not to stress out over symptoms because they can be so different and just do the Beta's as blood testing is so much more accurate Oh, and I agree with Jess on the sperm donor. There is a young lady (her thread is Young, Single, and Mummy to Phoebe) on bnb that did this very successfully! And Babywhisperer has a great idea for the fund raising! (Crap, I may have to do that - My dh all disabled, and me prego, Aaargh!!!) Took a few tries but she has a beautiful little girl now Can you work Monday from home

 

[Grey Eyes]

AFM- what a crazy day so far. I get up and everyone is sitting around in their pj's watching cartoons lol (Saturday morning- of course! ) So I hustle through my shower, morning rituals, and bang out breakfast for everyone, lay the girls clothes out, get them dressed..dh walks over and uncovers his breakfast, covers it back up and turns to me. Then he says sourly "OH. Well this isn't what I wanted. If I don't ask for this- and I didn't- don't cook it" and he walks out. Pardon me? Excuse me mister? Ooo I got so mad! Son*&^!!@#!@ O my hell I was upset. He knew it too I told him if he wants sopmething specific to damned well ask and quit expecting me to be a mind-reader! And if he doesn't ask, eat what I cook or go hungry...or fend for himself! Anyway, then I got the girls set down to eat and Grampa comes knocking with his mechanic wanting to look at our Suburban again so we all go out...(and breakfast get's ditched anyway). After Grampa leaves T starts yelling that she's hungry but doesn't want to finish her food They're driving me bonkers! She always asks for something like ice cream or chocolate cake. Yeah. Right. Like a good mom would do that in lieu of a healthy breakfast Anyway, by noon I was starving so I had something I hadn't had in years - A PB&J! Mmmm....Oh and yeah- dh and I canceled the meeting. He called this bishop guy back and told him no last night- so the creep better not show up today! Every time he does dh tells him "you need to call before you come over" and he never does and has started showing up in the night time! Weird-O.

Symptom update.____________________________________________.
Yep. There it is. Seriously though- I am exhausted and achy and get an occasional sharp twanging pain that starts at my back and wraps around to the front. Classic contraction that lasts for about a minute or two minutes then fades and doesn't come back. I am watching it but it doesn't come back regularly so all I can do is wait. Cervix/pelvic heaviness and discomfort, babes kicking the beejeesus out of me- the usual

I think it is going to be a surprise attack

.

 

[Babywhisperer]

AFM- what a crazy day so far. I get up and everyone is sitting around in their pj's watching cartoons lol (Saturday morning- of course! ) So I hustle through my shower, morning rituals, and bang out breakfast for everyone, lay the girls clothes out, get them dressed..dh walks over and uncovers his breakfast, covers it back up and turns to me. Then he says sourly "OH. Well this isn't what I wanted. If I don't ask for this- and I didn't- don't cook it" and he walks out. Pardon me? Excuse me mister? Ooo I got so mad! Son*&^!!@#!@ O my hell I was upset. He knew it too I told him if he wants sopmething specific to damned well ask and quit expecting me to be a mind-reader! And if he doesn't ask, eat what I cook or go hungry...or fend for himself! Anyway, then I got the girls set down to eat and Grampa comes knocking with his mechanic wanting to look at our Suburban again so we all go out...(and breakfast get's ditched anyway). After Grampa leaves T starts yelling that she's hungry but doesn't want to finish her food They're driving me bonkers! She always asks for something like ice cream or chocolate cake. Yeah. Right. Like a good mom would do that in lieu of a healthy breakfast Anyway, by noon I was starving so I had something I hadn't had in years - A PB&J! Mmmm....Oh and yeah- dh and I canceled the meeting. He called this bishop guy back and told him no last night- so the creep better not show up today! Every time he does dh tells him "you need to call before you come over" and he never does and has started showing up in the night time! Weird-O.

Symptom update.____________________________________________.
Yep. There it is. Seriously though- I am exhausted and achy and get an occasional sharp twanging pain that starts at my back and wraps around to the front. Classic contraction that lasts for about a minute or two minutes then fades and doesn't come back. I am watching it but it doesn't come back regularly so all I can do is wait. Cervix/pelvic heaviness and discomfort, babes kicking the beejeesus out of me- the usual

I think it is going to be a surprise attack

.

Tell dh this isn't a diner and I'm no line cook! There is no menu, be happy you get food cooked for you!

A bulls-eye mark is the red ring you get after being bit by a tick. I never found one and 50% don't. For all I know I could have been bitten on my scalp.

The best way to know for sure if it is Lyme is to have a Western Blot blood test. I tested positive for all 5 bands. Sounds like you are ready to go any minute! I say Monday when Ali gets her awesome Beta!!

I am new to charting, but I can't imagine my temps staying in the 98s indefinitely as they have been as low as 96s in the morning. This mornings temp was the same exact temp as yesterday and at 6:30am whereas yesterday I temped at 4am-ish. CM is looking like a mix of creamy/clumpy, but little clumps...reminds me of paper mache. What's that all about?

 

[twotogo]

Babywhisperer- I am sorry you are going through this with your dh...I am glad you trust him but it's something I couldn't let my dh do- and something he's never asked. I let him know right up front (good lord he had women stalking him for crying out loud when we got married!) women friends were a no-no...To be friendly- yes, that's fine, but friends? Like hang-out buddies? That'd be tough, and definitely an individual choice. As long as you are comfortable and confident with what you choose Re: your chart. Looks awesome! Nice high temp! I am wondering if this is your bfp month...no guarantees of course, but when I got my bfp it spiked up into the 98's right after. Hmmm Looks positive! And temps don't just keep rising they generally get high and stay there after a bfp Let's see what ff says about it in a few days--have you been putting all your info in there? Oh and about the Lyme...what do you mean bulls-eye mark? Because both of my girls have had (over the last few months) at least one little red scab looking circle on their hip- it fades from the center out and becomes a red ring that hurts when you rub ointment on it. I am frustrated! Because the little one also is getting these unexplainable rashes...it looks like a skin-color welt that raises up and is itchy. I put Benadryl crème and it goes away but in a few days can come back...It's driving me crazy. dh and I have worried about ticks, ringworm- you name it. I'll just have to take them to the doctor and see... The Eggs Benedict had me rolling btw! Serves him right! Ugh, I haven't been able to eat Sunnyside up for years--my brother grossed me out once by poking a straw into each egg and sucking the yolks out

TwoToGo- your chart has me wondering! Still nice and high, a small dip, but seems to go in line with this jiggy pattern you got going...Still waaaay above your cover line though and in the 98's! 8 dpo today...do you plan on testing at all the next few days? Hmmm...weepy? Fat? Ugly? You sure sound prego! Wow, I hope you get your part time job, that'd be awesome for you! Aaargh I would love to go back to work, financially we are always strained it seems a miracle happens every month to see us through! But 1) no one will hire a pregnant lady (even if it's against the law to say no because of that) 2) this town sucks and has no jobs available and I can't afford to commute! Nuts!

Jess- I LOVE your list idea! I've been thinking of doing that with T as she is almost 8 and really needs to start taking her responsibilities seriously. I need to do something so I am not reminding her 4-5 times a day Wow, I hope you get your thesis finished so you get some relax time! How are you feeling?

Ali- I know you are trying hard to stay positive and I understand you're feeling frustrated! Yes, some women just don't register hcg as highly and that could def be the factor in your case. I know you are feeling keyed up and nervous about your Beta Monday- I would too. You have invested everything in this cycle and you want the absolute best and positive answer- a !! I personally think that is the answer you will get! But try not to look negatively at anything...if this isn't a bfp then the future will bring one I am sure. The future's just gotta bring sperm and money with it Honestly because IVF brings such different symptoms with it is so hard to tell what is happening. So best to rely on hat your doc is telling you and get the Beta From what I have read that is what they recommend during IVF -- try not to stress out over symptoms because they can be so different and just do the Beta's as blood testing is so much more accurate Oh, and I agree with Jess on the sperm donor. There is a young lady (her thread is Young, Single, and Mummy to Phoebe) on bnb that did this very successfully! And Babywhisperer has a great idea for the fund raising! (Crap, I may have to do that - My dh all disabled, and me prego, Aaargh!!!) Took a few tries but she has a beautiful little girl now Can you work Monday from home

I'm not going to test until next week. I only have 1 FRER, so I want to make sure that I am late before I test. I am having pains in my lower abdomen, don't know if that's a good sign or not, but it's not typical.
I hope I get the part time job as well. It is a little bit of a commute, as there are no jobs in our village. I have to go to the next county over, so I would be driving about 55 mile a day if I do get it. Not too worried about it until winter. I hate driving in horrible weather.

 

[alicatt]

Babywhisperer- I am sorry you are going through this with your dh...I am glad you trust him but it's something I couldn't let my dh do- and something he's never asked. I let him know right up front (good lord he had women stalking him for crying out loud when we got married!) women friends were a no-no...To be friendly- yes, that's fine, but friends? Like hang-out buddies? That'd be tough, and definitely an individual choice. As long as you are comfortable and confident with what you choose Re: your chart. Looks awesome! Nice high temp! I am wondering if this is your bfp month...no guarantees of course, but when I got my bfp it spiked up into the 98's right after. Hmmm Looks positive! And temps don't just keep rising they generally get high and stay there after a bfp Let's see what ff says about it in a few days--have you been putting all your info in there? Oh and about the Lyme...what do you mean bulls-eye mark? Because both of my girls have had (over the last few months) at least one little red scab looking circle on their hip- it fades from the center out and becomes a red ring that hurts when you rub ointment on it. I am frustrated! Because the little one also is getting these unexplainable rashes...it looks like a skin-color welt that raises up and is itchy. I put Benadryl crème and it goes away but in a few days can come back...It's driving me crazy. dh and I have worried about ticks, ringworm- you name it. I'll just have to take them to the doctor and see... The Eggs Benedict had me rolling btw! Serves him right! Ugh, I haven't been able to eat Sunnyside up for years--my brother grossed me out once by poking a straw into each egg and sucking the yolks out

TwoToGo- your chart has me wondering! Still nice and high, a small dip, but seems to go in line with this jiggy pattern you got going...Still waaaay above your cover line though and in the 98's! 8 dpo today...do you plan on testing at all the next few days? Hmmm...weepy? Fat? Ugly? You sure sound prego! Wow, I hope you get your part time job, that'd be awesome for you! Aaargh I would love to go back to work, financially we are always strained it seems a miracle happens every month to see us through! But 1) no one will hire a pregnant lady (even if it's against the law to say no because of that) 2) this town sucks and has no jobs available and I can't afford to commute! Nuts!

Jess- I LOVE your list idea! I've been thinking of doing that with T as she is almost 8 and really needs to start taking her responsibilities seriously. I need to do something so I am not reminding her 4-5 times a day Wow, I hope you get your thesis finished so you get some relax time! How are you feeling?

Ali- I know you are trying hard to stay positive and I understand you're feeling frustrated! Yes, some women just don't register hcg as highly and that could def be the factor in your case. I know you are feeling keyed up and nervous about your Beta Monday- I would too. You have invested everything in this cycle and you want the absolute best and positive answer- a !! I personally think that is the answer you will get! But try not to look negatively at anything...if this isn't a bfp then the future will bring one I am sure. The future's just gotta bring sperm and money with it Honestly because IVF brings such different symptoms with it is so hard to tell what is happening. So best to rely on hat your doc is telling you and get the Beta From what I have read that is what they recommend during IVF -- try not to stress out over symptoms because they can be so different and just do the Beta's as blood testing is so much more accurate Oh, and I agree with Jess on the sperm donor. There is a young lady (her thread is Young, Single, and Mummy to Phoebe) on bnb that did this very successfully! And Babywhisperer has a great idea for the fund raising! (Crap, I may have to do that - My dh all disabled, and me prego, Aaargh!!!) Took a few tries but she has a beautiful little girl now Can you work Monday from home

Thanks Coy! I just don't know how Monday will go. I'm hopeful, but I just don't see it. I mean my BETA is on 17DPO, I don't know of many women that don't have a positive HPT by 15DPO, you know? Granted it was probably TMU by the time I got up the nerve to POAS. First pee was at 5:45am, second around 8:15 and third was about 9:30. So who knows, maybe if I had used FMU it would have been different?
I've been trying to get things done around here, like laundry and I gave the doggies a shower, yep, I figured hey I need a shower so I'll pull the doggies in with me. Well that was a new experience for them. Zach loved it but Zoe hated it. But Zoe needed it, she has been stinky the past few days after she puked, she must have gotten some on her because she was just not smelling like roses if you know what I mean! So after they were done I let them out of the shower and they ran around the bathroom while I did my thing. After I thought, well maybe I should blow them dry? I figured Zoe would hate it because she has always run from me when I turned it on and sure enough she jumped into my tub and hid from me! Then when I kept it on, she jumped up on the little seatwell (its an oval tub in a triangle and has a little seat where you can sit and shave your legs) so she jumped up into that seat and sat there and watched with great interest as I used the blow dryer on Zach. He was hilarious, just lay there and loved the hot air on him. He would look right into the hot air and let it blow over his nose and floppy ears. You should see how fluffy he is now, and now they both smell literally like flowers (since I used my fruity shampoo on them).
I was going to run to the store and buy some ingredients to make some really cool appetizers, but with my raging headache and mopiness, I am just going to run to the store and get a bag of pot stickers and cook them up. They are good and cook in 10-15 mins and that will suffice for the appetizer I will bring to the Bunco tonight. Honestly I just want to curl up into a ball and cry and cry instead of going to bunco. Thing is that I haven't seen some of these girls in months and they are all so nice. So I figure I should go and get out and maybe it will make me feel a little better. IDK, curling up in bed and crying and watching sad movies is probably where I am at.

I wonder if my FS will do a discounted cycle the second time around? Or maybe there are other options? I wonder if I could find someone to give me fresh sperm? I have a friend that is wickedly handsome and he knows I am trying to get pregnant. When he found out how much I paid for donor sperm he just about died! He's like wow, I'd give you some for free, only problem is that he already has 2 kids and he doesn't want to be on the hook to support a 3rd (or 4th). I don't blame him, we are casual friends that sometimes fall into bed together and I while I would never expect him to pay any support, it isn't necessarily what I want that matters. The law in FL is such that if you father a child you are responsible for child support, and the child can advocate for themselves when they are old enough. I'm not sure whether it is the same if you get pregnant by artificial means? I just don't know.

If only my head would stop aching! I am sorry if this was long winded or off the wall.. my brain is just not thinking very clearly due to this miserable headache!

 

[Babywhisperer]

Babywhisperer- I am sorry you are going through this with your dh...I am glad you trust him but it's something I couldn't let my dh do- and something he's never asked. I let him know right up front (good lord he had women stalking him for crying out loud when we got married!) women friends were a no-no...To be friendly- yes, that's fine, but friends? Like hang-out buddies? That'd be tough, and definitely an individual choice. As long as you are comfortable and confident with what you choose Re: your chart. Looks awesome! Nice high temp! I am wondering if this is your bfp month...no guarantees of course, but when I got my bfp it spiked up into the 98's right after. Hmmm Looks positive! And temps don't just keep rising they generally get high and stay there after a bfp Let's see what ff says about it in a few days--have you been putting all your info in there? Oh and about the Lyme...what do you mean bulls-eye mark? Because both of my girls have had (over the last few months) at least one little red scab looking circle on their hip- it fades from the center out and becomes a red ring that hurts when you rub ointment on it. I am frustrated! Because the little one also is getting these unexplainable rashes...it looks like a skin-color welt that raises up and is itchy. I put Benadryl crème and it goes away but in a few days can come back...It's driving me crazy. dh and I have worried about ticks, ringworm- you name it. I'll just have to take them to the doctor and see... The Eggs Benedict had me rolling btw! Serves him right! Ugh, I haven't been able to eat Sunnyside up for years--my brother grossed me out once by poking a straw into each egg and sucking the yolks out

TwoToGo- your chart has me wondering! Still nice and high, a small dip, but seems to go in line with this jiggy pattern you got going...Still waaaay above your cover line though and in the 98's! 8 dpo today...do you plan on testing at all the next few days? Hmmm...weepy? Fat? Ugly? You sure sound prego! Wow, I hope you get your part time job, that'd be awesome for you! Aaargh I would love to go back to work, financially we are always strained it seems a miracle happens every month to see us through! But 1) no one will hire a pregnant lady (even if it's against the law to say no because of that) 2) this town sucks and has no jobs available and I can't afford to commute! Nuts!

Jess- I LOVE your list idea! I've been thinking of doing that with T as she is almost 8 and really needs to start taking her responsibilities seriously. I need to do something so I am not reminding her 4-5 times a day Wow, I hope you get your thesis finished so you get some relax time! How are you feeling?

Ali- I know you are trying hard to stay positive and I understand you're feeling frustrated! Yes, some women just don't register hcg as highly and that could def be the factor in your case. I know you are feeling keyed up and nervous about your Beta Monday- I would too. You have invested everything in this cycle and you want the absolute best and positive answer- a !! I personally think that is the answer you will get! But try not to look negatively at anything...if this isn't a bfp then the future will bring one I am sure. The future's just gotta bring sperm and money with it Honestly because IVF brings such different symptoms with it is so hard to tell what is happening. So best to rely on hat your doc is telling you and get the Beta From what I have read that is what they recommend during IVF -- try not to stress out over symptoms because they can be so different and just do the Beta's as blood testing is so much more accurate Oh, and I agree with Jess on the sperm donor. There is a young lady (her thread is Young, Single, and Mummy to Phoebe) on bnb that did this very successfully! And Babywhisperer has a great idea for the fund raising! (Crap, I may have to do that - My dh all disabled, and me prego, Aaargh!!!) Took a few tries but she has a beautiful little girl now Can you work Monday from home

Thanks Coy! I just don't know how Monday will go. I'm hopeful, but I just don't see it. I mean my BETA is on 17DPO, I don't know of many women that don't have a positive HPT by 15DPO, you know? Granted it was probably TMU by the time I got up the nerve to POAS. First pee was at 5:45am, second around 8:15 and third was about 9:30. So who knows, maybe if I had used FMU it would have been different?
I've been trying to get things done around here, like laundry and I gave the doggies a shower, yep, I figured hey I need a shower so I'll pull the doggies in with me. Well that was a new experience for them. Zach loved it but Zoe hated it. But Zoe needed it, she has been stinky the past few days after she puked, she must have gotten some on her because she was just not smelling like roses if you know what I mean! So after they were done I let them out of the shower and they ran around the bathroom while I did my thing. After I thought, well maybe I should blow them dry? I figured Zoe would hate it because she has always run from me when I turned it on and sure enough she jumped into my tub and hid from me! Then when I kept it on, she jumped up on the little seatwell (its an oval tub in a triangle and has a little seat where you can sit and shave your legs) so she jumped up into that seat and sat there and watched with great interest as I used the blow dryer on Zach. He was hilarious, just lay there and loved the hot air on him. He would look right into the hot air and let it blow over his nose and floppy ears. You should see how fluffy he is now, and now they both smell literally like flowers (since I used my fruity shampoo on them).
I was going to run to the store and buy some ingredients to make some really cool appetizers, but with my raging headache and mopiness, I am just going to run to the store and get a bag of pot stickers and cook them up. They are good and cook in 10-15 mins and that will suffice for the appetizer I will bring to the Bunco tonight. Honestly I just want to curl up into a ball and cry and cry instead of going to bunco. Thing is that I haven't seen some of these girls in months and they are all so nice. So I figure I should go and get out and maybe it will make me feel a little better. IDK, curling up in bed and crying and watching sad movies is probably where I am at.

I wonder if my FS will do a discounted cycle the second time around? Or maybe there are other options? I wonder if I could find someone to give me fresh sperm? I have a friend that is wickedly handsome and he knows I am trying to get pregnant. When he found out how much I paid for donor sperm he just about died! He's like wow, I'd give you some for free, only problem is that he already has 2 kids and he doesn't want to be on the hook to support a 3rd (or 4th). I don't blame him, we are casual friends that sometimes fall into bed together and I while I would never expect him to pay any support, it isn't necessarily what I want that matters. The law in FL is such that if you father a child you are responsible for child support, and the child can advocate for themselves when they are old enough. I'm not sure whether it is the same if you get pregnant by artificial means? I just don't know.

If only my head would stop aching! I am sorry if this was long winded or off the wall.. my brain is just not thinking very clearly due to this miserable headache!

Omg I just got a visual of Zach and his ears blowing in the air. I love dogs. You are lucky to have them, and them you!

 

[alicatt]

AFM- what a crazy day so far. I get up and everyone is sitting around in their pj's watching cartoons lol (Saturday morning- of course! ) So I hustle through my shower, morning rituals, and bang out breakfast for everyone, lay the girls clothes out, get them dressed..dh walks over and uncovers his breakfast, covers it back up and turns to me. Then he says sourly "OH. Well this isn't what I wanted. If I don't ask for this- and I didn't- don't cook it" and he walks out. Pardon me? Excuse me mister? Ooo I got so mad! Son*&^!!@#!@ O my hell I was upset. He knew it too I told him if he wants sopmething specific to damned well ask and quit expecting me to be a mind-reader! And if he doesn't ask, eat what I cook or go hungry...or fend for himself! Anyway, then I got the girls set down to eat and Grampa comes knocking with his mechanic wanting to look at our Suburban again so we all go out...(and breakfast get's ditched anyway). After Grampa leaves T starts yelling that she's hungry but doesn't want to finish her food They're driving me bonkers! She always asks for something like ice cream or chocolate cake. Yeah. Right. Like a good mom would do that in lieu of a healthy breakfast Anyway, by noon I was starving so I had something I hadn't had in years - A PB&J! Mmmm....Oh and yeah- dh and I canceled the meeting. He called this bishop guy back and told him no last night- so the creep better not show up today! Every time he does dh tells him "you need to call before you come over" and he never does and has started showing up in the night time! Weird-O.

Symptom update.____________________________________________.
Yep. There it is. Seriously though- I am exhausted and achy and get an occasional sharp twanging pain that starts at my back and wraps around to the front. Classic contraction that lasts for about a minute or two minutes then fades and doesn't come back. I am watching it but it doesn't come back regularly so all I can do is wait. Cervix/pelvic heaviness and discomfort, babes kicking the beejeesus out of me- the usual

I think it is going to be a surprise attack

.

WOW, your DH should be happy you cooked him breakfast this morning. Silly man! Sound like your family would totally starve if you were on bed rest or unable to provide for some reason. Craziness! I wonder if you can make any meals ahead of time? You know, stock up on things that you or DH can just pop in the oven and you have instant meals? Like a big thing of chili? Or mac & cheese? Or spaghetti pie? Things that freeze well, and need little to no work. I am in love with these frozen Jimmy Dean breakfast bowls, and they are $2.50 each which is pretty steep if you are feeding 4, but what if you were to make a huge breakfast bowl, then freeze them? I've been thinking of doing just that. They have potato chunks, scrambled eggs, cheese and one of the following: ham, bacon or sausage in them. I don't see why I couldn't make them myself, and freeze them in individual servings (or in your case in 4 person servings). Then your family could have a yummy and filling breakfast and you don't have to do much to make it that way!

As for your symptoms, it sounds like you are right there! I wonder when it will happe, today? Tomorrow? Monday? My bet is that you don't last much longer than Monday.

BTW.. Babywhisperer.. I love your comment about Coy going into labor the day I get my BFP! I really hope you guys are right and I'm just being an idiot.

Here is for me being an idiot!!! And you giving birth to your beautiful baby girl on Monday!

to you and BabyWhisperer and Jess and TwoToGo, you are all so wonderful!!!

 

[Grey Eyes]

BabyWhisperer- cm gets sticky, tacky, and dry after ovulation. Here's the thing about bbt'ing: before ovulation it is really low, e.g., 95's 96's, etc. After ovulation it jumps into the 97-98 range due to hormones rising. A bfp almost always brings a higher temp into the mid to high 98's. If AF is ready to come for certain you will generally see a temp drop the day before or day of, like back into the 97's or 96's.


TwoToGo- there is one small town north of us about 40 miles I have applied also and city about 120 miles north plus one 200 miles south and so forth...nothing seems to be available here and I am seriously trying not to stress out! Especially when kids start complaining about the menu and so on...

Ali- if you feel like crying go ahead- it's the tsress of it all! And stop planning next cycle woman! Wait until you get AF or a def negative one way or the other! Sheesh! I can't wait for awesome news tomorrow! And I saw Zach's pic- he has gorgeous hair! Fluffy pup


K, so I ask the girls if they are hungry and T just looks at me and shakes her head. 2-3 minutes later I hear T asking her dad something and he says "well, do you want some soup or something" and I hear her mumbling. I go into the room and she's vying for treats! This kid has a serious sweet tooth...I tell her if she is hungry I'll get her some healthy food. Or we have grapes, apples, bananas, etc. She says no I'm not hungry. So I tell her it is time for her to brush her hair, teeth, and make her bed. She starts wailing and screaming and saying "but I'm a little kid and I'm huuuunnnngggrrrryyy! " LOL! WHAT am I gonna do with this kid? lol

 

[Grey Eyes]

AFM- what a crazy day so far. I get up and everyone is sitting around in their pj's watching cartoons lol (Saturday morning- of course! ) So I hustle through my shower, morning rituals, and bang out breakfast for everyone, lay the girls clothes out, get them dressed..dh walks over and uncovers his breakfast, covers it back up and turns to me. Then he says sourly "OH. Well this isn't what I wanted. If I don't ask for this- and I didn't- don't cook it" and he walks out. Pardon me? Excuse me mister? Ooo I got so mad! Son*&^!!@#!@ O my hell I was upset. He knew it too I told him if he wants sopmething specific to damned well ask and quit expecting me to be a mind-reader! And if he doesn't ask, eat what I cook or go hungry...or fend for himself! Anyway, then I got the girls set down to eat and Grampa comes knocking with his mechanic wanting to look at our Suburban again so we all go out...(and breakfast get's ditched anyway). After Grampa leaves T starts yelling that she's hungry but doesn't want to finish her food They're driving me bonkers! She always asks for something like ice cream or chocolate cake. Yeah. Right. Like a good mom would do that in lieu of a healthy breakfast Anyway, by noon I was starving so I had something I hadn't had in years - A PB&J! Mmmm....Oh and yeah- dh and I canceled the meeting. He called this bishop guy back and told him no last night- so the creep better not show up today! Every time he does dh tells him "you need to call before you come over" and he never does and has started showing up in the night time! Weird-O.

Symptom update.____________________________________________.
Yep. There it is. Seriously though- I am exhausted and achy and get an occasional sharp twanging pain that starts at my back and wraps around to the front. Classic contraction that lasts for about a minute or two minutes then fades and doesn't come back. I am watching it but it doesn't come back regularly so all I can do is wait. Cervix/pelvic heaviness and discomfort, babes kicking the beejeesus out of me- the usual

I think it is going to be a surprise attack

.

WOW, your DH should be happy you cooked him breakfast this morning. Silly man! Sound like your family would totally starve if you were on bed rest or unable to provide for some reason. Craziness! I wonder if you can make any meals ahead of time? You know, stock up on things that you or DH can just pop in the oven and you have instant meals? Like a big thing of chili? Or mac & cheese? Or spaghetti pie? Things that freeze well, and need little to no work. I am in love with these frozen Jimmy Dean breakfast bowls, and they are $2.50 each which is pretty steep if you are feeding 4, but what if you were to make a huge breakfast bowl, then freeze them? I've been thinking of doing just that. They have potato chunks, scrambled eggs, cheese and one of the following: ham, bacon or sausage in them. I don't see why I couldn't make them myself, and freeze them in individual servings (or in your case in 4 person servings). Then your family could have a yummy and filling breakfast and you don't have to do much to make it that way!

As for your symptoms, it sounds like you are right there! I wonder when it will happe, today? Tomorrow? Monday? My bet is that you don't last much longer than Monday.

BTW.. Babywhisperer.. I love your comment about Coy going into labor the day I get my BFP! I really hope you guys are right and I'm just being an idiot.

Here is for me being an idiot!!! And you giving birth to your beautiful baby girl on Monday!

to you and BabyWhisperer and Jess and TwoToGo, you are all so wonderful!!!

Great ideas, Ali! I will b able to shop in earnest on Moday so if babes doesn't come before then I will try to stock up on a week or more of breakfasts, etc, that I can freeze. The tirck is keeping their hands off them. I make and freeze and they'l think mid-day snack and then wonder what's for breakfast? Aaargh! lol! So yeah, gotta put my foot down. And dh is usually realy good about what I cok he was just persnickety this morning I have to find a more efficient and afofrdable means of keeping full meals ready to go just n case I end up in a position like you mentioned and not able to cook for them right away. I remember after my surgery ( extreme blood loss and a d and c) in November we just got home and the girls said "what's for dinner?" and dh just looks at me! hank goodness I had mac and cheese already made

And I would say "Ali you're being an idiot" but that's not nice nor applicable I think you are just being hormonal, normal, and...what's the word....antsy! Can't wait for MOnday!