What info does CSA need?

[sue_88]

Hi All,

My partner and I split up due to his lies about being married with more children for all the years we've been together, and it has since cam out that a lot of what I actually thought I knew about him was lies, like his address (friends house).

I'm now concerned that I don't know enough about him to get the CSA to track him and force him to pay the baby money.....what info do they require?


Also, if I have no plans to put his name on the birth certificate, can I still claim from him?

 

[lemontree12]

do you know where he works? because thats gold in terms of csa? they would be able to track him in a second, because its their national insurance number they go by. but what ever info you know give it to them as anything towards tracking him down is better than nothing.

and yes it doesnt matter if hes on the birth certificate or not, my fob isnt and he still has to pay. if they 'think' the baby isnt theirs or just trying to be awkward then csa arrange a dna but if it comes back positive then they have to pay for it. this basically scares the ones that try get out of it knowing full well they are the dads.

if you need to know anything else message me. i feel like im on first name terms with the csa lately.

x

 

[lemontree12]

just noticed your due date was actually my due date last year

 

[lemontree12]

omg and just noticed milo was my boys name too... too much in commen lol

 

[sue_88]

Oh wow, haha, small world since choosing Milo for my boy (if it's a blue bump) I've heard it a few times, previously I'd never heard it!! I love it though.

Thank you for the info.

I know where he used to work - but he has since told me he has lost that job, but could I still give them that information because they would see he paid NI whilst working there.

I also know his name, and DOB. But other than that, I feel any other minor detail I know could be lies....I really don't know him at all anymore, which breaks my heart as I feel I have wasted years. But still - I'm getting my dream so it's not all a loss.

I am hoping that he will be civil and arrange private payments away from the CSA, he also doesnt want anyone to know about my baby so I have agreed to this because I am fully out of his family now, and social circle - but surely if I go through CSA they will see he is paying for the other children and then alter the money accordingly.....could his other childrens payments change?

I really don't want to go through CSA so anything I can say to him that panics him into arranging privately - the better!

 

[sue_88]

He definitely knows the baby is his too.........we were trying for 30 months. He wouldn't dare dispuit it.

 

[lemontree12]

from what you wrote and my own experiences i would do it all through csa. if he is someone who tells lies all the time, do you really trust that he would pay for your baby for 18years and not piss off. i was also hoping that fob and i could do it between me and him, him more so, but he fell at the first hurdle by paying the wrong amount. now the csa is involved. and if nobody knows of your baby, im guessing hes not going to play an active role in your babies life. you owe him nothing. this is all my opinion and i can only go by my own experiences but i would def not be doing it between you both. also doing it with the csa does not effect any money you may recieve for being a single parent.

yea i loved the name milo, but wont be having it if i was to have a boy, a girl i know who i told the name, used it for her son i was gutted because it was only the boys name i liked

 

[sue_88]

Thanks for everything so far you're really helping!

Baby is due in July and when I know the gender (IN 1 WEEK EEEEKKK) I will message him to let him know what it is, and that everything is ok, and I will mention money again then.

But if I need to go through CSA when should I start the application? I've just read online that it could take 12 weeks, but up to 26 weeks!! That's quite a long time, and I want him to be paying from birth hopefully. Can I contact the CSA say at 20/25 weeks and give them the details? Or does the baby have to be here?

This is like a mind field - it would be so easy just for him not to contribute but I think he should pay something, even if it just sits in the baby's bank account. My parents don't think he should be allowed to get away with it. And no, he doesn't want to be involved.

 

[lemontree12]

no you have to wait until the baby is here before you make the claim. but it may take a number of weeks to be sorted, but as soon as yu make the claim he is made to pay from then, so he puts up a debt to them. 100% go threw the csa, if hes not seeing the baby he will never pay for 18yrs. and as you say he has told alot of lies. this way he will be easier found, because you know his old job etc, 100% dont let him guilt trip you. mine was between me and my ex, but he then changed his number, put less in my account and i couldnt dicuss it with him so i took it with CSA.

i found out i was having girl on the 17th feb i so exciting, and i wish i could step back a year and appreiciate my pregnancy and early days with my daughter xxx

 

[Ceejay123]

Baby has to be here for a CSA application I think his name, previous address or place ofw work.. Parents address.. Anything that can help. My oh received CSA papers, but not to our address and we'd not disclosed our address at that point. They were fine with it, just needed any way of finding out his n.i number ( old place of work should be okay?)

 

[Dezireey]

My ex lied to me tons too. Loads of mental health issues and problems (depression etc ) that I won't go into, the story is too long LOL. So I understand what its like to be with someone and they just lie and lie about everything. My FOB (I believe) was a compulsive liar. For all I know he could have been married with kids!

There is a section in the CSA application form that asks for all contact details. I wrote everything I could think of, even websites he visits everyday and his username, just anything I could think of to get them to contact him. I have sent it off now as he has just lied about some other stuff, so he has had his chances and they are gone, tough.

Good luck with babba, so exciting!

 

[justhoping]

Oh wow, haha, small world since choosing Milo for my boy (if it's a blue bump) I've heard it a few times, previously I'd never heard it!! I love it though.

Thank you for the info.

I know where he used to work - but he has since told me he has lost that job, but could I still give them that information because they would see he paid NI whilst working there.

I also know his name, and DOB. But other than that, I feel any other minor detail I know could be lies....I really don't know him at all anymore, which breaks my heart as I feel I have wasted years. But still - I'm getting my dream so it's not all a loss.

I am hoping that he will be civil and arrange private payments away from the CSA, he also doesnt want anyone to know about my baby so I have agreed to this because I am fully out of his family now, and social circle - but surely if I go through CSA they will see he is paying for the other children and then alter the money accordingly.....could his other childrens payments change?

I really don't want to go through CSA so anything I can say to him that panics him into arranging privately - the better!

i wouldnt do this as he can disapear and then leave you with nothing...its worse then getting alittle less then what the csa would make him give you know...