Whooping cough and stillbirth?

This might be helpful if you are able to understand the analysis of their findings.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2016-06/tdap-01-moro.pdf

Basically, it's a report on the CDC's monitoring of tdap vaccine safety. You can see on slide 8 their synopsis of previous findings on tdap in pregnancy (from other researcher's studies) which shows no increased risk of stillbirth.

Then they report on their findings from their own analysis of the vaccine safety reporting data (basically, when there is a concern by mother, her doctor or a manufacturer they can make a report to this sort of national system which logs adverse events). There were 464 adverse tdap events reported in pregnancy (out of likely thousands and thousands, I can't find their sample size, but it's likely include a significant percentage of pregnant women in the U.S. between 2012 and 2015/2016, so that's a huge sample). Of these 464 adverse events, most of which probably have nothing to do with tdap (some of them are pre-eclampsia or very common pregnancy complications). There were 13 stillbirths (one a known trisomy 12, so that explains that case). 13 out of probably 100,000 (I'm just making a guess on this number) is a very, very small percentage.

In contrast to that, the CDC says about whooping cough: "From 2000 through 2014, there were 277 deaths from whooping cough reported in the United States. Almost all of the deaths (241 of the 277) were babies younger than 3 months of age, who are too young to be protected against whooping cough by getting the shots." So that's on average 17 deaths a year, mostly in babies under 3 months from whooping cough. Even if all those stillbirths were totally and completely attributable to the vaccine (which is near impossible from a statistical standpoint), 4 stillbirths versus 17 whooping cough deaths per year, it's still much safer on average to get the vaccine than to risk your LO getting whooping cough.

Sorry, had to put my research scientist hat on for a second (I'm a health researcher). But yes, I got it with my daughter 4 years ago and will get it again this time too.
 
Research is important to make informed parenting choices but I'd be reluctant to base decisions on parenting websites etc... as these are often sensaltionalised to get traffic.

Talk through your options with your dr and read the advice leaflet so you are prepared.

Personally I happily got mine, my cousin had whooping cough when we were little and it was horrendous. I am very pro vaccine generally.
 
I never got whooping cough vaccine and i have declined the vaccines for my baby. I may chose a few of them but want them in a single shot.
There is not a huge amount of convincing research IMO and i think that these days we are over-vaccinating.

i agree with this guy -> https://www.babyjabs.co.uk/DrHalvorsen.html
 

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