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You would think she would have tried where you suggested - after all mum knows best.
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16 week midwife appointment: heartbeat!!?!
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You would think she would have tried where you suggested - after all mum knows best.
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You would think she would have tried where you suggested - after all mum knows best.
Lol, she didnt seem too happy that I suggested the baby might be higher up...
xI am very happy with my Hi Bebe doppler, and infact, they were saying themselves today how useless their dopplers were...
"Fetal Dopplers (often called Fetal Heartbeat Monitors or Doppler Fetoscopes) have been used worldwide for over 40 years. To date there are no known health concerns or risks associated with fetal doppler use. Our Hi Bebe doppler is FDA and Health Canada certified and can detect a fetal heart rate as early as 10-12 weeks gestation. You can also pick up other sounds from within the womb such as placental noises, hiccups and fetal kicks (long before you are able to feel them!).
The Hi Bebe device is a medical grade fetal doppler suitable for Physicians and Midwives in a clinical setting as well as for pregnant women who want to monitor their baby's heartbeat. All of our fetal dopplers come complete with everything you need so that you can begin monitoring as soon you open the box!"
"Fetal Dopplers (often called Fetal Heartbeat Monitors or Doppler Fetoscopes) have been used worldwide for over 40 years. To date there are no known health concerns or risks associated with fetal doppler use. Our Hi Bebe doppler is FDA and Health Canada certified and can detect a fetal heart rate as early as 10-12 weeks gestation. You can also pick up other sounds from within the womb such as placental noises, hiccups and fetal kicks (long before you are able to feel them!).
The Hi Bebe device is a medical grade fetal doppler suitable for Physicians and Midwives in a clinical setting as well as for pregnant women who want to monitor their baby's heartbeat. All of our fetal dopplers come complete with everything you need so that you can begin monitoring as soon you open the box!"
Midwifes and sonographers can be wrong, in my experience. At my 20 week scan she said 'placenta is low, oh hang on no, it's high' and then the next thing was 'baby is breach, oh no, it's transverse'. How many mistakes can one woman make?! She was supposedly an 'advanced practitioner', so what does that tell you? She then referred me to Kings College because of a 'borderline measurement' in the baby's brain. Well, by the afternoon Kings told me the measurement was completely normal and they said straight away that the baby was transverse and the placenta high. I was so traumatised by this. I know the equipment at the Fetal Medicine Centre is much better, but getting the position of the placenta and baby is quite basic.
So, yes, they can get things wrong even with lots of experience. After all, they are only human. But they have to realise how this can have such an awful effect on the mum-to-be and maybe they should keep their mouths shut and listen more in future. We are all individuals and do know something about our own bodies, after all. I know this sounds harsh but to them it may be a conveyor belt of mums coming through but to us it is the most important time of our life. They could do well to remember that. Some of the professionals are amazing (the people at Kings were absolutely excellent) but others need additional training both technically and with their 'bed-side manner'. I am now dreading giving birth in my local hospital.
So, yes, ignore the 'professional' telling you the baby is hiding in your pubic bone. My baby's heartbeat was found by my midwife where you found yours (below the belly button and slightly to the left).
So, yes, they can get things wrong even with lots of experience. After all, they are only human. But they have to realise how this can have such an awful effect on the mum-to-be and maybe they should keep their mouths shut and listen more in future. We are all individuals and do know something about our own bodies, after all. I know this sounds harsh but to them it may be a conveyor belt of mums coming through but to us it is the most important time of our life. They could do well to remember that. Some of the professionals are amazing (the people at Kings were absolutely excellent) but others need additional training both technically and with their 'bed-side manner'. I am now dreading giving birth in my local hospital.
So, yes, ignore the 'professional' telling you the baby is hiding in your pubic bone. My baby's heartbeat was found by my midwife where you found yours (below the belly button and slightly to the left).
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i said myself that midwives arent always right and as you said we are only human and make mistakes, but im not sure what you are expecting us to do. keep our mouths shut, just in case we do make a mistake? we wouldnt get very far!!
there are some midwives who might be lacking a bit of tact and unfortuently some that practice bad midwifery practice.
however, im spending a lot of money and working VERY hard to get my midwifery degree and i dont like myself or my co workers tarnished with the same brush as one bad midwife, or made to feel like we dont know anything.
you wouldnt insult other people on here like that (i hope so anyway) so please dont insult me and maybe try and show some understanding for what it is like the other side.
btw, im not just aiming this at the person who i quoted, so please dont feel like im having a big rant at you!!!
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A lot of midwives won't listen until 24'weeks plus as baby is so small at that point. If you have a Doppler I don't see the problem?
My midwife is one of those who still tries to listen at 16 weeks and only caught it for a second. I don't have a Doppler as I don't want to panic if I can't find the hb. I first heard it at 20 weeks as I'd had a lof of problems and they wanted to reassure me. I heard it again today and he has a heart rate of 130 bpm
My midwife is one of those who still tries to listen at 16 weeks and only caught it for a second. I don't have a Doppler as I don't want to panic if I can't find the hb. I first heard it at 20 weeks as I'd had a lof of problems and they wanted to reassure me. I heard it again today and he has a heart rate of 130 bpm
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Thats the reason I dont own a doppler...Its hard enough for the doctors to find it sometimes.Now the nurse that comes out to give me injections,she listens to the heartbeats(today was the first visit)She found the heartbeats right away.
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On Monday I had my 16 week appointment, MW found the heartbeat immedietly, it was on my right, highish up. Today I went to the GP in pain so the GP used the dopler to check for heartbeat, it was eventually located on the left, very low. So babies still move about quite a lot at this stage.
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how annoying!! im so used to doing it myself its gonna be really frustrating if my midwife starts looking in the wrong place for it!
i suggested she tried a bit higher, but she didnt want to know. i didnt want her to feel as if i was telling her what to do...i was a bit between a rock and a hard place..
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My baby's hb was found right away at the 16 week appointment, she was tiny (roughly three weeks behind in growth) and it was found about half way between my pubic bone and belly button.
milf2be, I know it must be frustrating for you to see people complaining about their mw's but try not to take it personally, hopefully no thinks ALL mw's are bad/rubbish/idiots or whatever, but it is normal for women to want to vent their frustrations hun
milf2be, I know it must be frustrating for you to see people complaining about their mw's but try not to take it personally, hopefully no thinks ALL mw's are bad/rubbish/idiots or whatever, but it is normal for women to want to vent their frustrations hun
If you are not having a rant at me, then don't use my quote. I am not wrong to share my experiences as this is a forum and I am entitled to do so. I do think that you should not say the baby is lying breach and placenta is low until you are sure. Rushing the scan and constantly changing your mind IS unprofessional and if I was to do this in my profession I would expect criticism. I don't mind people making mistakes, just asking them to think before they speak and make sure they are accurate first. I don't think this is an unrealistic expectation. I NEVER said don't speak I just said they should think more.
Also, if you read my post correctly you will realise that I was actually saying that many in the profession are excellent but like in all professions there will be people who are not and we need to be wary of these individuals. Hopefully you will be one of the professional ones. I do think that sometimes listening is a skill that some are not practicising.
Please do not posts so personally as my comments were my experiences and opinion.
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Not sure if I'll bother with a birth plan this time, as last time it wasn't referred to at all by the midwives looking after me. Out of the six different midwives who dealt with me during my labour, three were attentive and listened and quite honestly the others gave the impression that they didn't want to be bothered and were condescending. I was examined on arrival, told I was only 3cm dilated and not in active labour. I was given sleeping tablets and told to get some rest, even though on the way to hospital my contractions were 2 mins apart. An hour after taking the sleeping tablets I was in agony, I was examined and told I was 7cm. That's a lot of dilation in one hour! When I later said I thought I wanted stronger pain relief than gas and air I was told I probably didn't need it. I was told to push when I felt like it and DH and I were left alone, he told me it was often for an hour at a time, but they marked on my notes they checked me every 15 mins. So I ended up pushing for 4 hours and DS was born after I was put on a drip to speed things up. Don't get me wrong, I know there are good and less good workers in every profession, maybe I was just unlucky in my experiences, and they could've been worse. One midwife in particular was super and really helped me keep going, the others could learn a lot from her. I don't think you should take our views personally, we are simply sharing our experiences which unfortunately are both bad as well as good.
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Janey I totally agree with your post. 
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It's reassuring to hear bubs isn't it? Same to you and all the other ladies
It's reassuring to hear bubs isn't it? Same to you and all the other ladies
one of the best feelings in the world
I have to agree with hope4bump. I'm 16w3d and find my baby four fingers under bellybutton so did my mw today. It was just above my pubic bone up until last weekend when I was lieing in bed in the morning I went to feel my tiny bump as I do every morning but on the weekend it seemed to had disappeared ! I felt around and weirdly enough the bump seemed to have popped out of pubic bone into my belly how weird it was lol x
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