30 something and TTC #1 for a year

[aleja]

Mk oh wow your brother in law has done well for himself !!
3 months is a good plan and I am sure it won't take that long

MrsP ok I now understand the 'unexplained' thing that is more beneficial for you to have a diagnosis of annovulation rather than 'unexplained' . It's still weird what he said about IUI being for sperm issues.My FS said the opposite- that IUI needs a pretty good number of capable sperm because they do a post -wash to leave the best and then inseminate these .. Anyways the main thing is that you are feeling less enraged today . And who are well to contradict your FS as I am sure the man knows what he is doing
No offence taken about IVF .. It is definately the last resort and you are not st that point because all your results are normal . No one wants to end up doing IvF but unfortunately for some of us it's the only way .

The EPU wasn't keyhole I think they collect the eggies through some long needle thingy that goes up the vajajay

 

[mk8]

Hi girls

Brown tinged cm hath arrived. Balls.

Called hsg people who said they only do it on tues mornings! When I will be bleeding so no can do. I'm only v v light spotting, af will prob arrive sun or mon. The test has to be done with 10 days but day 1 counts as day 1 of sight of blood so includes tinged cm! I typically spot for a day or two then bleed 3 days then spot 2. so 7 days of some sort of bleed. So given I need to ring them in day 1 to book my hsg, which must happen within the first 10 days, I need to make sure the three days I have of no bleeding falls on a tues, otherwise I'm screwed!

 

[mk8]

Hello ladies

Sitting on my sofa with trashy TV to nurse me through my AF cramps- what a kick in the teeth! Anyway, let's keep positive eh?

I want to pick your brains ladies. Really hope you can help me.

I need to schedule my HSG on day 1 of my period. I called the NHS hospital and they said day 1 is when I start to spot. I typically spot 1 or 2 days then AF comes properly. GP told me day 1 of a period is day 1 of full flow, as do all the usual fertility websites. II called a private hospital to find out about a private HSG and they said the same thing- spotting = day 1. I have to do the HSG within the first 10 days. I spot for 2 days, properly bleed for 3, spot another 2. So I have a 3 day window for this damn thing! And I need to make sure that one of those 3 days falls on a Tuesday (only time I can do an HSG at my hospital on the NHS!) Crazy! So girls who have done the HSG, what did you count as day 1 and what cycle day did you do your HSG?

 

[GettingBroody]

Hi girls!! Sorry I've been a bit absent. Have been reading everything but just haven't had a chance to reply.

MrsP - so sorry about Dr Knob (although I love the name! ) I kind of understand the reasoning behind annovulation vs unexplained though and as you said he is the top dog in area and he does get results, which after all is the main thing right?

Mk8 - glad your FS experience was so different to MrsP's! As regards the HSG I can't offer any real advice cos I haven't had one but I agree it's very strange that they're calling spotting cd1 when everyone else seems to say otherwise?! Sorry af is on her way hon

Aleja, sorry to hear you're not feeling positive but try and keep thinking happy baby thoughts!! I am feeling very very positive for you! I know what you mean about testing early... Won't be long now til you know! I'm sure it'll be !!!

I went and had my cd22 bloods done on Thurs so that's one job out of the way. Need to go in for cd2-4 bloods next week but my dates are kind of falling at the wrong times too. Cd1 will probably be on Friday (unless we're calling spotting cd1?! - if so Thurs) but the dr isn't open at the weekends and Monday will be a bank holiday here so closed that day too - so that'd mean waiting til cd5 on the Tues. suppose it'll have to do Or ideally af could arrive a day early and I could get it done on Fri then... (never thought I'd be wishing for af to arrive!) Got my information package from the FS this morning, need to have a proper look through it but did look at the price list - €4150 for Icsi + €200 for first consultation + €900 for freezing eggs and first year of storage if needed. There goes the kid's college fund!!!

Hope everyone else is well! Have a great weekend!

 

[MrsPTTC]

Hi MK, it’s funny isn’t it how FS opinions differ, yours saying no to more than 6 months, mine saying keep at it. I might not take the full 6 months I’ll see how it goes..

How ridiculous they can only do it one day a week! Not sure why they’d class spotting as bleeding when CD1 is always full flow! Don’t know why they can’t do it when you’re bleeding, what problems this would cause other than mess….I can’t remember exactly but I’m sure it was on day 10. I had to ring up when I got AF.

Aleja, ouch not sure how on earth they would reach your ovaries like that! They must go up your cervix and past the fallopian tubes, but then our tubes are so skinny and long from what I remember from the HSG Weird!

Thanks gettingbroody, your ICSI is actually slightly cheaper than I thought, though it is still ridiculously expensive just because you want to be a mother (the most natural thing in the bloody world!) Are you in Ireland hun? Do they have anything like the NHS over there and if why are you not getting it free?

Happy weekend everyone, I'm feeling on top of the world now, sooo looking forward to my holiday and much more relaxed about TTC!

x

 

[GettingBroody]

Great to see you so positive MrsP!

Yeah, I'm in Ireland. We have the HSE here but it doesn't cover IVF etc although it will cover any meds/injections I'll have to take so at least there's that. We just pay a maximum of 130 per couple/month for any prescription medications and anything over that is free...

 

[MrsPTTC]

Ah I see so you pay health insurance but it doesn't cover certain aspects of fertility? x

 

[GettingBroody]

We pay health insurance but it doesn't cover any aspects of fertility treatments. They will let us claim a certain amount back on the consultancy fees though. The government covers the medications and also we can claim 20% of the ICSI cost back as tax... So not so bad overall I suppose!

How are you today Aleja?

 

[aleja]

Hi ladies
I got some bad news . I started spotting on the weekend and today I got AF
I didn't even make it to my beta test date!!! I am having it done tomorrow but it's safe to say my first cycle failed . Who knows what happened but all I can say is that at least no more hormones or meds for me for now . I cant wait to feel normal again. The progesterone pessaries drove me batty. I can't wait to talk to my FS about what next but probably a natural Frozen egg transfer in June (no meds !)
I can't help to think this IvF thing may also turn out to be a long term solution for me

Mk, my clinic says cd1 is the first day of full red flow . I think I did my HSG around CD 11 or something but I'm sure they said before cd14

Broody good up hear you have been a busy bee with your tests

 

[MrsG2010]

Aleja, sorry!

As for me, 18 months milestone.

 

[GettingBroody]

Aw Aleja I'm so so sorry hon. Sending you buckets of hugs

 

[mk8]

I'm so sorry Aleja. I hope you are feeling OK. Best of luck at your next appointment. Hopefully you will get some answers. In the meantime, enjoy having lots of cuddles with the mister. Hang in there and take care of yourself.

 

[MrsPTTC]

Aleja, so sorry hun Don't really know what to say...

MrsG, 18 month mark is always a toughy

x

 

[mk8]

Mrsg- hang in there. What's your next plan If attack?

Mrsp- question, what was cycle one off clomid like? I'm in it now and wondering if af will be heavier. Hmmmm

I was thinking, quite a lot of unexplained infertility on this thread and I'm wondering what people are doing.

Aleja- for when you are ready to try icsi again... May be worth speaking to a nutritionist and going for acupuncture. Alternatively, head off on holiday.

 

[MrsG2010]

Mk, Plan of action.... ehhhh. As you know DH has been stubborn. However, I just made him a Thursday appointment for his blood work. Cross your fingers he gets his butt there!

I'll remind you ladies that I had my HSG done back then as well as several other tests all in the October-December area. Then our family member died and that caused us to put this on hold.

Anyway, after the blood work is done, then we can go back to FS and review our options. Keeping in mind DH is insisting he doesn't need a second SA. His insurance doesn't cover it. I'll let the dr. talk to him. Maybe the dr. will let us move forward with treatment without a second one. ?! DH feels the doctor is essentially blackmailing him with this second SA by saying he won't help us without it. ?! DH and I both have had a lot of contact with hospitals, doctors, nurses and case workers due to a chronically ill family member. So we are both distrustful of the medical field in general. However, I understand the reasons for the second SA even if DH doesn't. So maybe if the dr. talks to him.....

 

[mk8]

Mrsg- obvious question but just in case you are more carefree than me, do you:
- use opks to check for o?
- have regular bd? Every other day betw days 10-21
- have regular cycles?

I think a second sa couldn't hurt at all. That said, me fs just wants to test me after hubby's sa turned out normal. He had a great count but below average motility and mOrphology.

Best if luck with dh's appointment!

 

[GettingBroody]

I guess the reason for doing the SA twice is to make sure the first one was a true reflection and not just a once off? In order for us to start our treatment with the FS our bloodwork and dh's SA had to be within the last six months so I'm guessing your dh's might also be out of date? I suppose a lot can change in 6 months so they need to have the clearest picture possible of what they're dealing with...

I hope all your drs and FS find you some answers soon. While dh's diagnosis certainly wasn't good news it was a huge relief to have an explanation for the lack of a bfp so far. Gives me something concrete to focus on rather than just generally questioning every single thing!

 

[MrsPTTC]

MK, well I’m still in my clomid break, AF due around Sunday! Slightly later ovulation, +OPK on CD18 but this is still earlier than my pre-clomid cycles. Expecting spotting any day now as it usually happens around CD26-28. I’m CD 27 today.

My plan of action is relaxing, no OPK’s/temping/checking CP/for spotting etc… BD’ing every 2-3 days maybe more around ovulation. And taking clomid obviously! (Let the mood swings begin! )

MrsG – got my fingers tightly crossed for your DH to keep his promise! My FS wanted DH to do a second test but DH said no as they wanted him to do it there rather than bring it to the clinic like we did for the first one (used a different hospital.) DH results were fine so FS didn’t push it. But I suggested to DH we take a sample back to the first clinic and just take the results to our last appointment. So we did that. Both results were fine. My FS told me sperm count/quality can go down as easy as it can go up…

Where are you in your cycle/plans Gettingbroody?

x

 

[GettingBroody]

Where are you in your cycle/plans Gettingbroody?

Well, spotting just started this evening so I presume af will be here tomor which is good news cos it means I'll be able to get my bloods done on cd3 instead of having to wait over the weekend for dr to reopen and then it'd be cd5... After that I'll just be passing time waiting for FS appointment on May 15th . I'll be getting a trans-vaginal ultrasound done that day too as part of the first consultation. Have any of you ladies had that done? Is it uncomfortable/sore?

 

[MrsPTTC]

Yay, see the can be kind after all! Still sorry AF is coming though

Yep had the dildo cam lots of times for my follicle tracking 6 months ago, doesn't hurt a bit. It really is like a dildo with a condom on the end. BD hurts me but I still found it painless so don't worry x