30 something and TTC #1 for a year

[MrsG2010]

Today is 14 and 15 dpiui.

 

[MrsPTTC]

so sorry MrsG x

 

[snowflakes120]

Sorry for the BFN Mrs G. Thinking of you!

 

[mk8]

Morning girls

Mrsg- hope you're doing ok hun. I'm really hoping that this is just a shy bfp waiting to happen. Stay hopeful.

How is everybody else?

Just a quick update from me following my fs appt. he said we are unexplained but the lowish Amh may be the cause. I'm 15.14 pmol/l and they like to see over 20. So docs suggested IUI with meds (final f and ovitrelle). We are turning into quite an iui club here.

 

[GettingBroody]

MrsG - so so sorry hon Any sign of af yet? Fx'd she stays away...

Snowflake - your FS apt is nearly here! Good luck!

Mk8 - will they be starting you on meds soon? Are you relieved to have a plan of action?! Fx'd this is the little boost you need!

MrsP - sorry you're feeling a bit sick Hope it passes soon!

Cupcake - how are you these days?

Aleja -

 

[MrsPTTC]

Thanks broody, I'm starting to feel better though not quite 100% How's you broody? x

 

[GettingBroody]

I'm fine thanks MrsP! Not long to go til af and then I can start bcp and get this show on the road!

Also, have my first acu apt next Thurs. This might seem like a strange question girls but I've never had acu before - what should I wear to the apt or does it matter?! I presume they don't put the needles in through your clothes?! What's the general routine?

 

[mk8]

Hi broody, you generally take off the item of clothing if it obstructs where they will put the needles so just wear whatever. How many treatments you getting hun and when in the cycle?

 

[MrsG2010]

hey girls.

broody, I was googling yesterday about acupuncture. I'm interested. Did you ask your doctor about it and what did he/she say?

I hope everyone else is well. AF still has not shown. And honestly I'm kind of pissed about it. It's given me new hope. I looked at my fertility friend account. Back when I was charting, my LP had an average and max of 16 days. 16 days is likely today. (If I ovulated within 48 hours of my trigger shot.) So if by some miracle AF doesn't come today.... I'll use my last test tomorrow morning.

But that also means if AF does come today or it's BFN tomorrow, I'm just going to be horribly disappointed all over again.

 

[MrsPTTC]

Ah MrsG, its a great long LP but means you've got ages to wait, I only had max of 12 days until the last couple of months so it wasnt to bad.

GL with the accupuncture broody! Hope you get the show on the road soon!

x

 

[mk8]

Hang in there mrs g, I know what you mean about getting hope but worrying it might be dashed. The only suggestion I can make is to watch a hilarious movie, take a bubble bath and go to do something fun this weekend with hubster. I'm wishing you lots of luck. Stay hopeful.

As for acupuncture, I tried it 3-4 times at a zita west clinic (for you Londoners I think u know who she is- top fertility midwife). Pricey and stressful as it was a pain to make my appointments. Chg was £80 per session! Ive found a more local one that costs £30 who specialises in fertility acup and she is kinda on my way home. So will try that. I spoke to my fs for his views and he's ok with it. Don't think he believes it works and mentioned the placebo effect. But he said no harm. Where he draws the line is herbal meds.

 

[GettingBroody]

Hi broody, you generally take off the item of clothing if it obstructs where they will put the needles so just wear whatever. How many treatments you getting hun and when in the cycle?

Thanks! Dunno how many sessions yet. Will see what he says! There's been a few studies done on the benefits of getting acupuncture done twice on the day of embryo transfer with ivf - just before the eggs are put back and just after - so that's what I'm really interested in.

broody, I was googling yesterday about acupuncture. I'm interested. Did you ask your doctor about it and what did he/she say?

How are you doing hon? Has af showed or are you still in limbo? If you're interested in acu etc you should definitely have a look at the book The Infertilty Cure. There is so much in it! I'm still only about halfway through! Theres a big questionnaire at the start of it to help you figure out what parts of your cycle might be out of balance/sync and then there's loads of different tips and stuff that you can do yourself at home to help. For example my period is very light so they recommend a hot water bottle during the first two weeks of cycle to improve circulation and blood flow to the uterus. I'm finding it very interesting...
Edit: forgot to say I didn't ask my doctor about it. Didn't occur to me

 

[GettingBroody]

Totally forgot to say spotting started today so I'm guessing af will be here tomor and I can start my bcp! My cycles seem to be getting shorter though - normally I'm about 29 days but last month and probably this month it seems have been a few days short of that. Not sure what's going on Hopefully nothing to worry about!

 

[mk8]

Hey Broody

Yay to starting the treatment soon! I started spotting too- bah. Kinda not disappointed anymore. Accepted that we prob need some kinda medical intervention.

I have started reading the infertility cure too! The first bit kinda annoyed me though as I thought it was kinda scaremongering the readers. However, I cant wait to get onto the other sections. I started acupuncture again this weekend too. This time I went to a more local place. I met with the acupuncturist, spoke about how long I had been trying, my cycle length, how many days bleed, diet. She asked if I chart - I dont anymore but previously, my charts were kinda all over the place, which she said suggested hormonal imbalance. She wanted me to do fertility massage, acupuncture and take herbs. I said not to the herbs though as I want to do IUI next month and I have no idea what is in the concoction she mixes. My regular FS was OK with acupuncture and massage but said he drew the line at herbal teas as it isnt regulated and they can put all sorts in it, which I agree.

In terms of my acupuncture, she put needles in around my tummy, ankles, arm, ears, head. i lay there for half an hr with an infra red lamp on me then another lady gave me a fertility massage (tui na). this involved circling my tummy relatively hard (no pain) in a clockwise motion for around 10 mins, then I turned over and she did my shoulders, back, lower back. It felt v relaxing but I am concerned whether I should have had that done as my period hadnt started yet. I wasnt sure if I should get my tummy massaged just in case I am pregnant next month. I called another clinic today for advice and she said you can do massage and acupuncture at any point in your cycle, but the therapist has to be highly skilled as they would need to work on diff points.

Anyway, the acupuncturist i had treatment with recommends that i go 2x a week as I dont want to do herbs. This other lady I called said she agreed but accepts some people want to go less due to cost. She said in China, people would do it every day.

Anyway, the afternoon after I had my treatment, I had v light spotting (red spotting). That was yesterday. Today AF came properly. Recently, I have found that I spot a day or two of dark brown before AF arrives but this time, its more freely flowing. Will be interesting to know how you get on Broody. Good luck!

Hello to everybody else.

 

[aleja]

Hi girls,
I just got back from a mini-holiday with my two girlfriends. We went to stay in a fancy apartment near the beach. We did a whole lot of eating, relaxing, day trips, and nothing else...it was exactly what I needed!

MrsG, hope you are well hun. Any news on AF? I am used to my AF being very late and it really does get annoying especially when you know there is no BFP to show for it.

Mk, oh geez we have all turned into a IUI/ICSI and Acupuncture thread!!!

I think your AMH results must be in a different measurement to the one I received (yours must be a UK scale) as I remember my FS saying anything over 16 is considered high risk for PCOS and overresponding to fertility meds..that is very different to what you were told.

Broody, I think the other ladies described the acu session pretty well. I do suggest wearing something loose though (just in case) For me they don't remove any clothing they just roll up my sleeves/pants.
Mine they just do the needles and no massage.
I actually have a session today to see if it will help bring on AF (as so far the Provera hasn't work yet). I am going to the pre/post transfer sessions too

 

[MrsPTTC]

MK, I went for a spa day yesterday, was supposed to have a hot stone massage which I had paid upfront for back in Jan, but knew I wouldn't be able to now I am pregnant but expected a normal massage. Nope! she said they can't massage at all until 12 weeks x

 

[mk8]

Still no af Aleja? Naughty provera! Let's hope it hurries soon. You want mine? My af is heavy and exhausting this time!

Good to hear you had a nice break Aleja.

Oh and yes, I'm in the uk so my Amh is on a diff scale. 15pmol/l is around 2.2ng/ml.

 

[mk8]

Hey mrs p. interesting... I guess they don't want to get sued for anything mrsp!

After consulting the "infertility cure" book, it says massage is ok post o as it helps the luteal phase/progesterone. But once I get my bfp, I won't be getting any massages just in case!

 

[aleja]

Hey Mk yep , no AF despite 7 days of Provera . To be honest I feel like the Provera hasn't done anything at all . Because it is progesterone I thought I'd be getting PMS symptoms and headaches etc but I haven't noticed anything . Hopefully the Acu session will help bring it on.

Today I visited a close friend who has a 3 month old baby . She was my real-life TTC buddy .. I told her about our woes and IVF but I didn't tell her that I had already had a cycle. I couldn't help but burst into tears . I was very embarrassed but relieved at the same time . I guess I thought I was okay about this whole ordeal but I still find it hard to talk about it (and accept it too of course) .

 

[mk8]

Hi Aleja, how are you feeling today? I know it's tough but stay strong sweetie. Baby Aleja will be here in no time! I know it. How was your Acu session? Any sign of af? Is it just Acu or are you having cupping/massage too? What did the acupuncturist say? Good luck with cycle 2!

Hows everyone else?

My fs emailed me yest saying that he's written my iui with injectables treatment plan. Expected but scary. Feels so real! I don't know what it entails yet but someone else is drawing up the costs- lots of £££!