33yr ttc#2 - buddies needed!!!

[curiousowl]

Suuuuuper positive OPK tonight! My temps are kind of weirdly high but hopefully I'll still see a jump.

 

[ricschick]

Woohoo great news curious!! Fx

Mine are still negative!! But I'm cd20 so hopefully won't be too long now. 🤔

 

[ricschick]

Woohoo great news curious!! Fx

Mine are still negative!! But I'm cd20 so hopefully won't be too long now. 🤔

 

[curiousowl]

Huh. My OPK was still positive this morning. I never get 2 days of positives. But less positive so hopefully O is today!

 

[ladders]

Ah I'm so jealous of all the positive opks I just hate the run up! Curious you look like you've had great timing this month! Hope you're comes soon rics.
How are you feeling with it all cupcake?

 

[Sander]

That's so funny curious, mine was also less positive (but still positive) today. Last month it went negative the next day. Maybe this is a good sign for us? Haha

Sorry for the negative Rics, hopefully it turns positive soon!

Ladders, yes the run up is terrible. When do you normally O? Is af over yet?

 

[happycupcake]

Does anyone here suffer with diarrhoea and increased anxiety during their lp on and off? Or any of you who have used progesterone, does this do that to you?

 

[curiousowl]

That's so funny curious, mine was also less positive (but still positive) today. Last month it went negative the next day. Maybe this is a good sign for us? Haha

Sorry for the negative Rics, hopefully it turns positive soon!

Ladders, yes the run up is terrible. When do you normally O? Is af over yet?

It's so strange! I got another positive this afternoon. I've never had more than 1! I really really hope today is O though. Fx.

 

[curiousowl]

Does anyone here suffer with diarrhoea and increased anxiety during their lp on and off? Or any of you who have used progesterone, does this do that to you?

I did not have that side effect. Sorry that's no fun.

 

[ricschick]

No cupcake sorry I tend relax more in the tww, I'm more stressed before ov as I'm never sure when it's going to be!
Good luck curious and sander!

Anyone have blood tinged ewcm before ovulation? I've had this this morning! A bit crampy too!!

 

[curiousowl]

Anyone think I O'd based on my chart love it when it's clear!

Rics, I have once or twice.

 

[happycupcake]

No Rics, but I've heard plenty who have

 

[ricschick]

Wow curious that's clear all right!! Lol.
Thanks I hope to get a positive opk later or tomorrow maybe!!

 

[Sander]

I haven't Rics but I haven't been checking cm that long I'm sure it's totally normal.

I didn't get a temp shift this morning and now I don't know what to do Opk's went negative but I really expected to have O'd yesterday. DH and I are getting tired haha, and I'm officially out of pre-seed, I used the last of it yesterday -_-

 

[curiousowl]

I haven't Rics but I haven't been checking cm that long I'm sure it's totally normal.

I didn't get a temp shift this morning and now I don't know what to do Opk's went negative but I really expected to have O'd yesterday. DH and I are getting tired haha, and I'm officially out of pre-seed, I used the last of it yesterday -_-

You might be seeing a slow rise Sander. I often get that. So you might have O'd and your temps are on the way up since today was higher. Wait and see tomorrow before worrying. Maybe BD, if you can, if not don't stress about it, your timing is good.

 

[Sander]

Guys I think I'm going to lay off the temping for the next while. I don't have the right kind of thermometer, and I don't take it at the same time every day (I know, it's cause I don't want to wake up at 5am every morning to take it haha), and it's stressing me out.

Today temps were still 98.0, so not a real 'rise' but last month I had a typical rise and my temps were at 98.0 almost the entire LP. So based on other signs - positive OPK, EWCM, and the cramping and back pain I get every time I O, I'm just gonna assume it's happened and the BBT issues are because I'm not doing it correctly.

I just can't bear to think with all these signs and my ridiculously long cycles that it's going to be anovulatory. What do you guys think?

 

[Sander]

Also I wanted to mention - I did some research and some say that heat can affect BBT? I've thought it strange my LP temps were a lot higher than last month, but this entire week has been a major heat wave in Vancouver - temps have been between 32 and 39 degrees (unheard of here). Now it's starting to cool down the past couple days - is this what might have been making my temp higher than normal during LP?

 

[happycupcake]

Sander, lots things can alter your temps, room temperature being one of many. I would suggest vaginal temping if you don't do it this way already as it's easier to get a more accurate reading I think. If you sleep with your mouth open at some point then it will be lower, for example.

Can I ask advice about progesterone please? I ordered bio-identical progesterone cream which won't arrive for possibly another week and if I ovulate as usual it shouldn't be any later than tomorrow. I have a new prescription for progesterone pessaries (Cyclogest) I can collect, but these seem a much higher dose at 400mg whereas the cream is about 20mg. I think I need a top up of progesterone as I think this may be my problem, but I don't know whether to wait for the cream and try a lower dose, or use the pessaries (they seem like overkill?). I know both can be used to help with recurrent losses amongst other things

 

[curiousowl]

Sander, I agree about the vaginal temping. It made a huge difference in my charts. And yeah, you really need a BBT. Your flat temps mean something's off there.

I would definitely use the progesterone suppositories cupcake. I think they do amazing things and, as far as I know, the side effects of too much are minor. Did your dr prescribe them for after O or after a BFP? I've seen both, after a BFP generally for RPL.

 

[happycupcake]

Sander, I agree about the vaginal temping. It made a huge difference in my charts. And yeah, you really need a BBT. Your flat temps mean something's off there.

I would definitely use the progesterone suppositories cupcake. I think they do amazing things and, as far as I know, the side effects of too much are minor. Did your dr prescribe them for after O or after a BFP? I've seen both, after a BFP generally for RPL.

Omg I just typed out almost my whole reply and my iPad crashed and lost it all. Typical.
My GP prescribed them a while ago for PMDD but I didn't know much about low progesterone at the time. I didn't use them because I was paranoid about potential side effects and my moods seemed to start levelling out. I was trying to sort things out myself and I think things have improved a little but one thing for me that stands out, aside from a fair few early losses, is the severe anxiety which gets worse during my lp and I read that if oestrogen isn't being balanced by enough progesterone this can cause anxiety and panic attacks. Even from that point alone I'm pretty desperate. I'm so tired of relying on Valium and then dealing with the side effects of that - it's like living in a fog. Since I read more about bio-identical progesterone being the calming hormone, more than I have read the opposite, I think it's time to try it. I ordered the cream because it's a much lower dose and I read that we don't actually need the high doses doctors prescribe. I don't know what my levels are so I don't know if it would be too much, which is why I ordered the cream. But then the doctor who isn't my usual doctor surprised me by agreeing to give me a prescription for the Cyclogest, so I'm in two minds.
What's been your experience of it? If I use them I intend on using them vaginally because in the back door can cause diarrhoea so I read, which triggers panic for me.
I digress, I apologise I have a habit of doing that. To answer your question, it was for after ovulation