35 and over and ltttc for baby #2 for over 2.5yrs!

[Cookie1979]

Orchid - Good news about the femara. Whats the difference between femara and clomid? I'm sure I was told they don't prescribe femara in the UK, not sure if thats right. x

Awww Wish - I know its extremely hard, and the frustration and anger you feel is sometimes overwhelming. Try not to give up on hope, I know it's not easy, I struggle myself and feel like it's never going to happen but I know if I truly believed that I wouldn't still be trying. x

Good luck for cycle 16 Mooshie - my af got me last week too grrrrr. Now I'm onto cycle 21 but actually can't try again until cycle 23 so it sucks big time. x

Erggghhhhhh all the women from my postnatal group are meeting up today, all with their 2 kids, except one who is pregnant...thank goodness I'm working otherwise I would have had to have made up a lame excuse. It's bad that I'm now avoiding people, but I can't deal with it, its a stark reminder of what EVERYONE else has and I what I can't have. I saw one of them yesterday, which is fine, she's the only one out of them that I'd really consider a friend, but I cannot take meeting a big group of them who have all so easily got what I can't have!!! The friend I saw is abit of a gossip, so it wouldn't surprise me if she tells them I'm avoiding them...I don't care though. I'm a working mum anyway so to be honest they wouldn't even notice if I'm avoiding them as I never see them. Just hard, as I'm sure you all appreciate and I'm sure you all have similar issues.

xxx

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Cookie I found this article explaining the difference between Clomid & Femara (if you are interested).

https://community.babycenter.com/post/a21779273/facts_re_clomid_and_femara

It seemed easier to share that than me try to explain it!!

How is everyone today? I woke up feeling very nauseous for some reason but thankfully it passed quickly. I have to start using OPKs today and of course I have none so went to my local dollar store (have been using them for a while as they are $1.25 each and work really well). So typical but they had NONE (neither did the store that I stopped off at yesterday on the way up the road!) so I had to go and spend $40 on them instead... Did as he requested - nothing to drink after finishing breakfast and going to the bathroom and testing around noon.... the test was totally negative but even the test strip seemed pretty faint... I mean it was there but just not as strong as I would have expected - totally frustrating and just my luck. I would have thought these tests would have been better since so blooming expensive but I guess not... Or perhaps I am just used to the ones I have been using! Hoping it's better tomorrow....

Cookie - I'm sorry you are missing out on your prenatal get together but I do understand. DS is the only kid at his preschool that is an only child and so twice a week every week I have to drop him off and be surrounded by the double pram/ or babies strapped to mums while the older ones trudge along... It really sucks but I just try to ignore it as much as possible... Some days it's easier than others...

 

[tommyg]

Wish how are you doing? I'm sorry you are feeling angry about things. I really pray you get that BFP. You deserve it lady. I take it DH has had no second thoughts on IVF?

Cookie femara (letrozole) is available in the UK but clomid is much cheaper so they tend to try it first. I was given letrozole because the month before my appointment I'd had a suspected chemical, if I remember rightly it was very unusual spotting and weird cramps. So she opted for letrozole rather than clomid as clomid can thin your lining.

Orchard fingers cross, 6 hours round trip is no walk in the park, yip all this stuff puts you onto an emotional roller coaster. Save journey on Thursday.

Hello to everybody else.

 

[Mooshie]

Hi ladies i'm just popping on for a moment as i'm going into a meeting but I need some advice.

I'm still bleeding from AF (started on Friday) and it's still as heavy as day 1. This is really out of the ordinary for me as i'm usually heavy for 2 days and she's gone by day 5. This is now day 6 and i'm still really heavy. Normally I wouldn't bother and just put it down to a weird period but I have clots which I never have. They're not big but about the size of a 5p piece.

I'm loathe to call my GP as she will just do her usual of "sometimes that can happen" and fob me off.

Should i be worried or just put it down to a weird month?

I should say i'm not in any pain today, although yesterday I was pretty sore.

 

[tommyg]

I'd put it down to a weird month, is it a longer cycle than normal for you? The longer the cycle the heavier the period for me.

 

[Mooshie]

No, it was a "normal" 28 day cycle. You're probably right, its probably just a weird month. They all seem to be weird months these days, it's so god dam frustrating!

 

[Srbjbex]

It definitely does sound like a weird month to me. Maybe give it a couple more days then if it's still the same I would try and get to your GP on Friday if no better. I know you are loathe to go to her but that would be a very long time losing a lot of blood so I think is worth getting checked out.

You could perhaps ask to speak to a nurse rather than a GP? Generally I find nurses a lot more sympathetic with these kind of things, and if they think there is something to worry about they will involve a doctor - I am assuming a doc would take a nurse query a bit more seriously?!

 

[Mooshie]

Sorry I didn't get back to reply today, had such a busy day!

Bleeding is still the same :/ the worst thing is I was at work today and stood up at the end of my meeting and I just felt the blood flood down. It's horrible as I work in an office full of men and there is only one toilet. I'm going to see how it is tomorrow and phone the surgery, this is really abnormal for me. This is day 6 of bleeding and I'm still using super tampons plus pads

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

That does seem odd... I know every now and then I have a super heavy cycle but definitely not 6 days of bleeding that heavily.... Did you take or change anything this cycle that might have upset things? Although the clots are gross the size is small so I don't think you need to worry about that but it does indicate how heavy your bleeding if you don't normally get clots... How often are you having to change your tampons or how long are they lasting before you have blood on the pads? Are you feeling ok with it all... (Ie not lightheaded, dizzy etc). Poor you - I hope it stops as of now!!! Nothing worse

 

[Mooshie]

No I'm not lightheaded or dizzy or that, just feel yuck! I've been super tired this last week too, which isn't really helping how I'm feeling.

I spoke to my best friend about it earlier and she said to phone the docs tomorrow just to get some advice. She has had this a few times and has been sent to a&e for it.

She suggested the same as you ladies, that it could be a one off OR it could be something else but it's always best to get checked if things change dramatically from your norm as it could suggest something underlying. She did ask if I could be pregnant but I don't think I am. I had BFNs up till 10dpo this month when I stopped testing as I figured I was out and AF showed bang on time so I don't think its that. And even if I was, the amount of easing I've had would suggest it's not a happy ending and there isn't anything anyone could do anyway.

She also said it could be an age thing as I'm almost 37 and periods do tend to get heavier as we get older, which mine have, just not this much before.

I'll let you know what my GP says tomorrow. Thank you all xx

 

[Srbjbex]

I'm glad you're going to get it checked out mooshie. Will be interested to hear what they say.

 

[tommyg]

Mooshie my initial though was that it's a maybe a long cycle, but I can tell you even on a 12 weeker I wouldn't still be using super tampons and pads on day 6.
Hope your GP gives some answers tomorrow.

Orchard safe drive hope you get decent results.

AFM Somebody please tell me to get silly ideas out my head?? I seem to have more hope this cycle than I did on either of my IUI's. I know its bonkers and I'm just building myself up for a massive fall.

 

[mk8]

Hello ladies,

Do you mind if I join properly? I'm 34, turning 35 in June. I am blessed with a gorgeous son, who we conceived after almost two years. We had "unexplained infertility" and I got my BFP thanks to injectables and IUI. My son is just over a year and a half and we have been trying since beginning of the year. Will be going through blood tests again and seeing my GP.

Wishing you all lots of luck!

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Hello and welcome mk8! Am I right in thinking you have popped by this thread before? If not I must have seen you somewhere else!! Hopefully your stay here is a short one but it's lovely to have you hear

Tommy - I don't think you are bonkers I think that's great!!! How amazing would that be! I understand the whole being cautious thing but as you have said many times if we didn't have hope why would we still be trying! Is there anything in particular that is making you feel hopeful? Oh I SO hope this is your month!

Mooshie - I'm glad you are contacting your GP. I hope you get some proper answers - don't let them fob you off til you are happy with their explanations!

So today I have randomy had some spotting which then turned to a small amount of bleeding... Has anyone that has taken Femara had that before? I am on CD12... My OPK was definitely negative again but I felt a little nauseous this afternoon (didn't last) and then after the spotting/bleeding my bbs were incredibly sensitive.... Now my sides (tubes areas) and both tender but other than that feel ok... I'm guessing it's just the extra hormones etc but hadn't heard of the spotting before.... I am SO hoping not all 7 follicles have matured... I need everything to work tomorrow so we can carry on... Would be so gutted to have it cancelled!!

Hi to everyone else! Wish how are you doing? When do you move?! x

 

[tommyg]

Orchard I'm sure on one of my first or second femara cycles I had mid cycle bleeding. Don't think it happened on every cycle but it did happen. Dr Google told me it's something to do with the femara pushing your estrogen levels higher than normal then as it starts to drop you can get "estrogen break through bleeding"

Your right if we didn't have hope we'd have nothing. The reason I have more hope is my boobs who do the talking are quite tender. We all know symptom spotting is pointless. However the last time I gave up caffeine they weren't tender in the least but I need to check back as it may have been a short cycle where this one by the end of the 2ww will be 10 wks.

And just to scare the living daylights out of me I woke up dreaming I was expecting quads, a girl and 3 boys. Lol.

Hello and welcome Mk8

How is everyone doing?

Wish are you feeling any better? Sending my love n hugs.

 

[Cookie1979]

Thank you Orchid, I will have a looK. Good luck xxx

Thank you for the info tommy, I'm planning to write it all down and then get all the information I can so that I'm not fobbed off at my next appointment. By then it will have been 2 years since we started trying and I refuse to be fobbed off with 'it will happen naturally'.

tommy - its a tough one, on one hand you want to feel positive, on the other you don't want to get your hopes up too high incase it doesn't happen. Its really a tough one and hard to find the right balance. Positive attitude goes a long way! Have my fingers and toes crossed for you.

Mooshie - definitely agree, best to get it checked out. Let us know what happens. I've had heavy bleeds in the past but I dont think I've ever had 6 days of heavy bleeding...might have though, hard to remember them all.

Welcome mk8! x

Nothing going on with me, still waiting for my HSG appointment and should probably decide whether I'm going to try opks to work out when ovulation is as need to have a blood test to check my progesterone...its that or I guess as my cycles do vary a fair bit. Weightloss is not going well, feeling frustrated, I have been soooooo good this week, got on the scales and I'll be lucky if I've lost half a lb this week. With having PCOS it makes losing so hard, and I dont eat much carbs and I've been so so good and my weight has barely shifted. Just hard when I go to group and surrounded by people who eat more and eat more carbs and they lose more than me. Need to not focus on them, and hope that next week I have a better loss. I feel so much better about myself now, thats the important thing to remember.

x

 

[Srbjbex]

Welcome mk8! And in the nicest possible way I hope you are not here for long!

Tommy - I completely get the whole hope thing, each month I come up with a different reason why this cycle is more likely to be 'the one' than the last, which is ridiculous. This time I have convinced myself that this should be a good cycle because we did a decent amount of BDing after ov - not just before. but we will always have hope, and we will normally be disappointed but one day that hope will come to fruition - we just don't know when. And maybe quads is on the cards!! haha!

Cookie - sorry to hear you are feeling down about your weight loss. It's so hard when you think you have been good and the scales don't show it? Do you do much exercise as well. I got a fitbit for Christmas and that has really helped me be more active generally. I haven't used the lift at work once since the new year and I work on the 3rd floor so I think even that small change is making a bit of difference.

Orchid - keeping everything crossed for you for tomorrow. I have no experience of Fermera so I can't help there, but it does make sense that all the extra hormones are going to make a massive difference to your body.

AFM nothing to report. 5dpo so another week to go before AF arrives.

 

[Cookie1979]

Bex- that is my downfall...I dont exercise much. I bought a cross trainer and it sits there unused. Hubby says he's going to sell it unless I use it. Won't have time today, but tomorrow I work half day and our boy is staying with his grandparents for a couple of nighst so I think its a good time to get started, I won't be able to find an excuse of no time...hopefully once I start it will steam roll and I'll do it regularly. Last year I was exercising loads as I was training for a 26 mile walk, but since doing it (in September) I've not done much at all. Gonna get myself moving.

Good luck with your 2ww, hope this is the one!! xx

 

[tommyg]

Cookie remember every area is different and everybody is different. My friend who was referred to Fertility clinic 3 weeks after me managed to get her 2nd son (who's now a year) on her first round of clomid. You don't want to get there back up by demanding stuff. That said I did ask that I was added to the Iui waiting list when I was given the femara. Just to save a little time but promised I'd cancel it if the femara worked for me.

 

[Cookie1979]

Well unless she gives me Clomid I pretty much think I'll be told to go away...from what she said at my last appointment that would be my only option and she wasn't keen on giving it me. So its that or I go private. So either I push for Clomid, and if she gets her back up then I dont get it, but if I dont push I don't get it either. Could be a lose lose situation. I'd like to try clomid before going private and trying IUI, but I think IUI would be our only option privately as IVF is too expensive. Not that the hubby has agreed to IUI...hopefully it won't come to that.