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[Braven05]

Orchid, sorry about the bfn. Fingers crossed for you anyways!

 

[tommyg]

Orchard has AF showed up? Has the spotting stopped?
I've heard of femara causing mid cycle spotting and delaying ovulation but never a period.
I'm praying you have a wee bean in there. Lanet could be right that it's just implanting and not showing up in the test yet.

My 2nd chemical it was about 18 dpo before I got a BFP.

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Thanks girls.... My head is all over the place. I'm actually glad I took the test cause otherwise by now I would have been convinced I was pregnant.... Spotting has once again stopped - it just seems to happen in the morning on and off pretty much just after going to the loo when I wipe and then nothing in the afternoons/evenings. It's all old blood - nothing red. Around lunchtime today my bbs suddenly got super sensitive but a different feeling from normal, my back hurts on and off and for most of the day I have just felt really off so something is going on.... and if I'm not pregnant my bets are on a cyst....

I had my blood taken so I expect to hear from them tomorrow. I'll take my temp in the morning if I don't start bleeding overnight and just wait but I just want to know what is going on! Tommy - you are so right - I wish I could just look in and find out what is going on!

 

[tommyg]

You've definitely got something going on. Fingers crossed for a sticky bean and not a cyst.
What an emotional roller coaster. How is DH with it all?

 

[Cookie1979]

Awww Orchid, sorry you are in limbo! Not knowing is sometimes worse. I do hope your blood test gives good news. Keeping everything crossed! Let us know if you have any news.

AFM - my boy has tonsillitis, poor boy. Its the temperature he keeps getting that is making him feel so poorly, luckily calpol (paracetamol) is working well and brings his temp right now. He's on antibiotics now, so hoping within a few days he'll be back to normal. I didn't take him yesterday because I thought well he's just got a temp, but today I just thought I better get him checked out, glad I did. Might be able to get my blood test results today, but more likely tomorrow...might call this afternoon just on the off chance.

x

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Well girls whatever was going on is officially over. Night sweats last night, temp drop this morning followed very shortly by bleeding. I'm still getting twinges of sensitive bbs but I assume that is just caused by my hormones....

I'm still waiting for the clinic to call me and in the meantime I have to get my head around things and work out what I want to do this cycle... Part of me feels like lets just get on with IUI #2 but another part is so exhausted and broken from this cycle I just don't know.... I guess the best thing to do is go on the advice of the Dr.

As for today it's so bad but I just feeling like crawling back to bed and staying there all day! Too bad I can't!

I hope you are all well. Anyone in the 2ww? Onto cycle 40 for me.... how ridiculous is that?!?!

 

[maidenkates]

Cookie- thanks, I always get those two confused. sorry your little one is sick, hope he gets better soon. So sad when they're not feeling well

Orchid- fingers crossed for you!! Sounds promising with just spotting and no flow. Sometimes it takes a while after spotting to get a BFP, hoping hoping hoping for you to have your bean!!!

AFM- I have an appointment to discuss IVF with doc at the end of he month. They are telling me they book 4 months out and the total amount has to be given at the time the appointment is made... I think I should try somewhere else. The rushing is making me stress about it more. Hope everyone is well.

 

[maidenkates]

Well girls whatever was going on is officially over. Night sweats last night, temp drop this morning followed very shortly by bleeding. I'm still getting twinges of sensitive bbs but I assume that is just caused by my hormones....

I'm still waiting for the clinic to call me and in the meantime I have to get my head around things and work out what I want to do this cycle... Part of me feels like lets just get on with IUI #2 but another part is so exhausted and broken from this cycle I just don't know.... I guess the best thing to do is go on the advice of the Dr.

As for today it's so bad but I just feeling like crawling back to bed and staying there all day! Too bad I can't!




I hope you are all well. Anyone in the 2ww? Onto cycle 40 for me.... how ridiculous is that?!?!

I am so sorry!!!!

 

[Wish4another1]

Orchid - DAMN... I am sorry... that really sucks big time... I wish you could stay in bed - even if for a little bit - i think it is ok to be sad and mourn what you wanted... and then tomorrow is a new day...
I don't have any other words - I know I can't make it better... Just know I am sad and I am here HOH for you that next time - will be YOUR time - whenever that is...

tommy - where are you at in your cycle? I think I remember that you are not doing IUI this time right? due to holiday?

maybe you and Orchid will be IUI buddies this next time!!

maiden - the dr wants you to pay now but he can't get you in for anything until 4months?? huh?? I atleast had initial appointments and blood draws - although it did take a LONG time to get in for that first appt - I didn't have to pay for anything though because my insurance pays to find out what is wrong - they just dont pay to fix it... (like IVF or IUI)
I think I would call around to other clinics close to you and see what they say - if you have to pay out of pocket - you can shop around!!! Good luck

cookie - sorry to hear about your boy being sick that is always a downer... and yes glad you took him in today! I hope he gets to feeling much better soon! and yes call and bug them for results - squeaky wheel gets the oil!

to all you other lovely ladies!!

AFM: cd60... how awesome is THAT... tomorrow is my OB/GYN appointment.. I am hoping for some kind of answers... and discussion about surgery... other than that - waiting for 15 April for closing and looking forward to moving two houses into one... ok not really - but I am looking forward to mushroom hunting on our new acreage... and sitting in front of the fire place drinking some cocoa...

 

[tommyg]

Orchard sending massive hugs. I was praying and hanging on to a glimmer of hope for you. Sorry the witch was particularly evil this month for you.
I can fully understand the logic of giving yourself a month to chill and settle before trying again. You have fairly regular natural cycles so it not a big issue of "how long is a cycle".
For me my immediate reaction to AF is to get on and try again the idea of waiting is like wasting time. So I would be more than tempted to go for another round of treatment.

 

[tommyg]

Cookie how is DS? Have you got your blood results?

Maiden I think I'd be shopping around. Payment 4 mths in advance seems a bit OTT. And I bet it would be a massive fight to get the money back if they were to refuse you for any reason.

Wish. Good luck with your appointment tomorrow. Knocking 2 houses into 1 is a challenge. The daft stuff like you don't need 2 irons or kettles - decide on the best and ditch the other don't even pack it. Charity shop the spares or car boot them. If you move them into your new place they will just become clutter.

AFM Yip on holiday in French Alps. Been in an outdoor pool this afternoon - freezing but bazaar swimming with snow around you. All good fun.
Hoping for a short cycle. When I get back I need to make sure the clinic are happy to go ahead with my next cycle ie they have something from Blood doc to say he is happy. Don't want to wait for CD1 and them to delay because of a missing bit of paper.

 

[lanet]

Well crap orchid. I'm really sorry and it's shitty.

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Thank you all so much.... I was feeling super crap but its easing as the day passes. A large glass of wine or 2 should help banish it all tonight!!

So I have decided to just keep going and try one more cycle this time with injectables so I start all over again on Thursday.... I'm definitely mixed about it but hey I feel like I am destined to have another December baby (worst month ever!) so this WILL work!! So back on my mammoth journey on Thur for my base ultra scan and the start on the injectable hormones.... Here's hoping lucky cycle #40!!!

Thanks again ladies - I couldn't do this without all of your support

Now if you don't mind I am going to get organised and then pour myself a giant glass of wine before I have to stop for the next month again!!!

 

[maidenkates]

Thanks ladies, I think I will shop around. The blood work and ultra sounds are covered, but he IVF and sperm retrieval surgery is not, so I am torn. The IVF appointment is what I would have to pay for in full at the time I make the appointment, if I had the money now, which I doNt yet, they would be able to start in June... Making me crazy Found out that the 25,000 would cover up to 3 tries if I get enough viable embryos. Is that something that is usually done?

Orchid- it is good to stay positive and it's good to have some wine and relaxation too. Here's to a December baby!!

Tommy- enjoy your vacation, sounds amazing!

 

[Cookie1979]

Orchid - I'm so so sorry, totally and utterly sucks!! I do hope that a December baby is meant to be for you. Fingers crossed. xxxx

Wish - ah how frustrating. Last year when my cycle was 60 odd days long I was literally pulling my hair out. I hope you get answers.

Maiden - well I don't know about ivf but sounds unusual to pay full amount when you make an appointment.

Tommy - I hope you are enjoying your holiday xx

AFM - well my son is much better, he hasn't had a temperature since yesterday morning, but he had calpol a couple of times so that would have kept it down. Last time he had it was 7pm last night and no more temps since, so I'm hoping thats it for temperatures. Poor boy feels so poorly as soon as it goes up. He wants to go to preschool today but I've said no, he's not 100% and I can't be sure his temp won't suddenly shoot up. I feel abit crappy myself, bit of a niggly throat and mega tired, just hoping its lack of sleep and not germs. Maybe I'll get a proper nights sleep tonight now he's improved alot. Hope so!

Nope no blood test results yet, I need to call after 2pm so I shall let you know later. Fingers crossed. xx

 

[Srbjbex]

Oh Orchid - I'm so so sorry that it isn't better news for you. Mother nature seems to have such a cruel way of doing things - by throwing in a few symptoms that just give us that glimmer of hope, when we know better than to expect disappointment. I really am feeling for you! Good on you for going again straight away! (I would be exactly the same) and maybe you're right - it's all about December babies for you. That's like I have decided I can only have babies in Olympic years! Anything to keep you sane hey!

Tommy - your holiday sounds fab, I'm jealous - I need a holiday!!!

Wish - good luck for your appointment today. And I'm intrigued by your mushroom hunting - are you moving to some kind of fanstatical glade?

Maiden - sounds expensive to me! and I never heard of paying that much that early. We are hoping to find out about more tonight at our open evening, but we estimated ICSI will cost around £5,000 at our local private hospital. I've been reading a little bit about going abroad - heard lots of good things about a clinic in Athens, plus there are places in Spain and Prague. Is that something you would consider if the costs very so prohibitive for you?

cookie - glad your son is on the mend - will be checking back in here after 2 for your results!!

AFM - Open evening tonight which I am looking forward to and also I think I might be oving soonish too - hopefully I'll pick up some good fertility boosting essence tonight at the hospital (it works like that right?!)

 

[Cookie1979]

Quick update: Called for my results, progesterone was back and it was normal and level of 31.3, but rubella not back, she said they have probably gone to another department and to call back in a couple of days. It was ready this quickly last time, so I'm surprised. I might try again tomorrow.

 

[Wish4another1]

Cookie - they have your progesterone...but not rubella?? - which is high by the way!! atleast it would be if that was my test!! haha the highest I ever had was 23... 7 days after O... I get frustrated about test results - I wish I could just log in and bam - there they are!! well keep pressing the issue!!! its your results anyway!!

bex - good luck tonight - I hope you leave with lots and lots of HOPE!!!

orchid - I am so happy you decided to keep going!! December baby it is!!! hehehe hope you enjoyed the wine!!

tommy - your holiday sounds so wonderful!!! never been there... maybe some day!!!

AFM: well dr appt is done - he believes the cyst is gone! yay!! but he wants me to finish the pack of BCP so my cycle doesn't get crazy... and I will have surgery at the end of May to see what's going on in there... the surgery would've been sooner but I am running a marathon with my daughter on May 16th and then she graduates high school on May 22nd... so the doctor thought it would be better to wait till after all that... he said recovery was 2 weeks... but he didn't want to chance it... You girls that have had a lap - how long was your recovery???
I will be 42 then..... boy this year is not going as I planned... but when does it ever???!!! I am just going to believe that God is going to grow our family - who knows how... and obviously he is not listening to when I thought it would be a good time!!

 

[tommyg]

Wish was 39 when I had my lap. I'd say 1-2 week recovery is about right. But remember mine was a little odd in that they went in from my side to avoid the existing scars at my belly button.
Good that your cyst friend has gone.

Maiden I don't know enough about IVF or prices but I'd see no harm in calling some other clinics for their prices or policies.
What happens if your don't have enough frosties, or if you fall pregnant on cycle 1 does that mean you are paying for services not used?
How often do ladies use all 3 cycles?

Cookie does progesterone at 7dpo not need to be more than 20 to indicate ovulation?

Orchard good decision to keep going hope you enjoyed your wine last night. Let pray for a special Christmas present for you.

 

[Cookie1979]

tommy - I googled and it said that progesterone needs to be above 10 to confirm ovulation. I dont think I was 7 dpo, I suspect I was maybe 5 dpo...will know for sure once my af arrives.

Wish - good to know that it was high, and as I said above I dont think I was quite 7 dpo...time will tell. I haven't had a lap but my friend is due one and she teaches yoga and other exercise classes, and she's been told that she can't work for 2 weeks after. Good news about the cyst, I've heard good things about people going on bcp for a short time, maybe it will work for you.

xx