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Can i join in ladies please (bit stuck in limbo on where i am suppose to be)
Well me and OH have been ttc now for 17months, (not long compared to others) but my story is i have pcos and I started clomid last cycle. I had a call off my gyno to go in this Tuesday for a chat so me and oh attended.
Once we got there, she bascially explained that going off my OH past SA results that we need to be referred to a fertility specialist and how she is goin to put us on the IVF waiting list!
I was shocked as I thought IVF was a long way off, but in fact she seems to think we need to be entered onto the waiting list.. and that we prob wont get a natural BFP from the sperm test results that my partner has provided..
Which are low
This is the 2nd i have seen the actual gyno, every time i have gone I have seen one of her staff members, she told me that she would of no way given me clomid like the other doctor did going off my OH test results and how she should of referred us and thats why she has called us into the hospital to see her today.
Well me and OH were pretty much shocked, like i said we didnt think IVF was needed considering the other doctor said yes there bit low your SA results and if no success from the clomid we may refer you. However after actually seeing the top consultant on Tuesday it now looks like OH hasnt got as good results as we thought and we need to be referred.
So now im bit stuck in limbo on what to expect, the consultant explained that the fertility specialist department (which is St Marys in Manchester) will write to me with some sort of forms to fill in which we will then be entered onto a IVF waiting list.
Is this correct?? What am I to expect on this waiting list?? I mean is it months or years??
The consultant explained its months and how its alot better than what it was a few years ago, again my head is real up my bum we just wasnt expecting this sort of news.
What i cant understand is do they not actually run tests first the fertility specialist and decide what sort of fertility treatment you may need?? I mean what about IUI or can they enter you on a list first for IVF and then decide if you should try IUI first?
Only she has referred us and entered us on the list, i just have no idea what to expect, what tests they will do and what happens at these appointments.
Any advice from you ladies would put my mind at rest.
Sorry i might sound silly, but like i said no idea its all a bit of a shock all this to me and to OH, she said also stop the clomid as she doesnt think it will do anything and that if i need IVF treatment to try to limit on me now on my in take of fertility drugs and leave that for IVF.
Anyone else had this? Or any advice anyone could please give me?
Please also note I have had loads of blood tests already, internal ultrasound scan, HSG all clear.. OH provided now 3 samples all low results according to the consultant!
xxxx
Well me and OH have been ttc now for 17months, (not long compared to others) but my story is i have pcos and I started clomid last cycle. I had a call off my gyno to go in this Tuesday for a chat so me and oh attended.
Once we got there, she bascially explained that going off my OH past SA results that we need to be referred to a fertility specialist and how she is goin to put us on the IVF waiting list!
I was shocked as I thought IVF was a long way off, but in fact she seems to think we need to be entered onto the waiting list.. and that we prob wont get a natural BFP from the sperm test results that my partner has provided..
Which are low
This is the 2nd i have seen the actual gyno, every time i have gone I have seen one of her staff members, she told me that she would of no way given me clomid like the other doctor did going off my OH test results and how she should of referred us and thats why she has called us into the hospital to see her today.
Well me and OH were pretty much shocked, like i said we didnt think IVF was needed considering the other doctor said yes there bit low your SA results and if no success from the clomid we may refer you. However after actually seeing the top consultant on Tuesday it now looks like OH hasnt got as good results as we thought and we need to be referred.
So now im bit stuck in limbo on what to expect, the consultant explained that the fertility specialist department (which is St Marys in Manchester) will write to me with some sort of forms to fill in which we will then be entered onto a IVF waiting list.
Is this correct?? What am I to expect on this waiting list?? I mean is it months or years??
The consultant explained its months and how its alot better than what it was a few years ago, again my head is real up my bum we just wasnt expecting this sort of news.
What i cant understand is do they not actually run tests first the fertility specialist and decide what sort of fertility treatment you may need?? I mean what about IUI or can they enter you on a list first for IVF and then decide if you should try IUI first?
Only she has referred us and entered us on the list, i just have no idea what to expect, what tests they will do and what happens at these appointments.
Any advice from you ladies would put my mind at rest.
Sorry i might sound silly, but like i said no idea its all a bit of a shock all this to me and to OH, she said also stop the clomid as she doesnt think it will do anything and that if i need IVF treatment to try to limit on me now on my in take of fertility drugs and leave that for IVF.
Anyone else had this? Or any advice anyone could please give me?
Please also note I have had loads of blood tests already, internal ultrasound scan, HSG all clear.. OH provided now 3 samples all low results according to the consultant!
xxxx
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Miss Monty, how are you getting on with the down regging? How are you feeling? Hope its going ok for you.
Doodar, I have done 4 injections now and they are really easy to do and I hardly feel it. Its such a small prick that its almost painless. I am doing them in my tummy as I remember someone saying on here that the tummy was the best place. Might give the leg a go, but am finding the tummy fine. Please try not to worry about the injecting.
Beauty, welcome to the thread, I don't think the waiting list would be more than a few months. I found the process leading up to getting treatment a bit long winded but that was because it took time to apply for fund ing, then we had to attend on open eve, then have an appointment for consenting, and one for baseline scan and trial transfer, so all that took about 4-5 month before we could actually sart.
I think a lot of clinics are reducing or stopping IUI. Oxford are stopping it all together this month. Think its beacause the sucess rates are so low.
It sound like your problem lies with low SA so clomid wouldn' t be the answer. Also IUI depends on some good sperm, while IVF can be done with ICSI backup (this is what we are having), where the sperm is injected into the egg. I think in your circumstances this is what you would be offered. You have had all the tests already.
Hope everyone had a great christmas and that 2010 holds lots of BFP's for us girlies!!
Doodar, I have done 4 injections now and they are really easy to do and I hardly feel it. Its such a small prick that its almost painless. I am doing them in my tummy as I remember someone saying on here that the tummy was the best place. Might give the leg a go, but am finding the tummy fine. Please try not to worry about the injecting.
Beauty, welcome to the thread, I don't think the waiting list would be more than a few months. I found the process leading up to getting treatment a bit long winded but that was because it took time to apply for fund ing, then we had to attend on open eve, then have an appointment for consenting, and one for baseline scan and trial transfer, so all that took about 4-5 month before we could actually sart.
I think a lot of clinics are reducing or stopping IUI. Oxford are stopping it all together this month. Think its beacause the sucess rates are so low.
It sound like your problem lies with low SA so clomid wouldn' t be the answer. Also IUI depends on some good sperm, while IVF can be done with ICSI backup (this is what we are having), where the sperm is injected into the egg. I think in your circumstances this is what you would be offered. You have had all the tests already.
Hope everyone had a great christmas and that 2010 holds lots of BFP's for us girlies!!
Hi ladies, I hope everyone had a fab Christmas. I've been away staying with family and decided to try and forget about everything (well as much as I could) over Christmas.
Hi Caline - I'm on day 7 of down regging now, the injections have been ok, DH has done everyone for me so far - I've been pinching my skin and looking away whilst he does the injection. I was told to do them at the top of my leg and it hasn't been too bad. Actually DH has been really sweet, he's told me I get a little treat everyday I have an injection - first day it was a magazine and then it was some chocolate and yesturday he came sale shopping with me, held all my bags and did not moan once!!! ha ha ha - he told me that was my treat!! Bless him. Have you been doing your stimming injections or do you get your OH to do them for you? At injection training we found the stimming injections a little harder to get used to - I hope everything is going well for you.
I had my last appointment with CARE last Tuesday for my injection training, FS told me that I'm at higher risk of OHSS, when I had my pre treatment scan they found a high number of follicles, about 24 and that my ovaries look polycystic. However, blood tests have ruled out polycystic ovaries and I don't have any other syptoms. Anyway, because of this they will be giving me a reduced amount of meds during stimming and they are going to monitor me regularly, they told me an average number of follicles is about 12 without stimming meds. Not sure how I feel about it, I kind of feel it's not going to work but trying to stay positive.
Hi Beauty - welcome - from referral to starting IVF I waited 5 months, actually that period of time went really quickly for me, it was all the waiting for appointments and investigations prior to this that were the killer. It's a real shock when your told you are likely to need IVF, we were hoping to try IUI first but were told this just would not work, actually our fertility clinic told us that the IUI sucess rate was so low that they will no longer be providing IUI from 2010. I know its a shock but I guess it means you start the ball rolling and the option for you to have IVF is there if you need it, I wish you lots of luck
Hi Doodar - how are you? I didn't have a choice between nasal spray and injections for down regging - I was only offered injections. I'm not sure I will be able to do the injections myself, my DH has been doing them for me, I can't watch! The FS advised me to put some ice (wrapped in a towel) on the area first for a few minutes and tbh when I did this I did not feel a thing! However, we have been away visiting family and I haven't been able to use ice for several days and I have felt the needle, although it hasn't been too bad I'm defo going back to the ice tomorrow.
I've still got a few days off work YAY planning on watching lots of DVD's tomorrow xx
Hi Caline - I'm on day 7 of down regging now, the injections have been ok, DH has done everyone for me so far - I've been pinching my skin and looking away whilst he does the injection. I was told to do them at the top of my leg and it hasn't been too bad. Actually DH has been really sweet, he's told me I get a little treat everyday I have an injection - first day it was a magazine and then it was some chocolate and yesturday he came sale shopping with me, held all my bags and did not moan once!!! ha ha ha - he told me that was my treat!! Bless him. Have you been doing your stimming injections or do you get your OH to do them for you? At injection training we found the stimming injections a little harder to get used to - I hope everything is going well for you.
I had my last appointment with CARE last Tuesday for my injection training, FS told me that I'm at higher risk of OHSS, when I had my pre treatment scan they found a high number of follicles, about 24 and that my ovaries look polycystic. However, blood tests have ruled out polycystic ovaries and I don't have any other syptoms. Anyway, because of this they will be giving me a reduced amount of meds during stimming and they are going to monitor me regularly, they told me an average number of follicles is about 12 without stimming meds. Not sure how I feel about it, I kind of feel it's not going to work but trying to stay positive.
Hi Beauty - welcome - from referral to starting IVF I waited 5 months, actually that period of time went really quickly for me, it was all the waiting for appointments and investigations prior to this that were the killer. It's a real shock when your told you are likely to need IVF, we were hoping to try IUI first but were told this just would not work, actually our fertility clinic told us that the IUI sucess rate was so low that they will no longer be providing IUI from 2010. I know its a shock but I guess it means you start the ball rolling and the option for you to have IVF is there if you need it, I wish you lots of luck
Hi Doodar - how are you? I didn't have a choice between nasal spray and injections for down regging - I was only offered injections. I'm not sure I will be able to do the injections myself, my DH has been doing them for me, I can't watch! The FS advised me to put some ice (wrapped in a towel) on the area first for a few minutes and tbh when I did this I did not feel a thing! However, we have been away visiting family and I haven't been able to use ice for several days and I have felt the needle, although it hasn't been too bad I'm defo going back to the ice tomorrow.
I've still got a few days off work YAY planning on watching lots of DVD's tomorrow xx
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Hi Missmonty,
I'm finding the stimming injections fine. I tried the top of my leg one day and found that painful so I am using my tummy, and hardly feel them. I am not having any side effects that are too bad. I have a bad taste in my mouth all of the time, which no amount of mints of mouthwash will get rid of. I have also been majorily moody with DH! Feel more moody and hormonal on the stimming than I did on the down regging, but hot flushes have stopped, so thats good.
Your DH sounds like a real sweetie. Treats everyday, I am going to tell my DH about your DH and hope that he will take a leaf out of your DH's book, he he he. Daily treats, great! Don't worry about the reduced dose of stimming meds as they will just increase that depending on what your response to the drug is. Its better this way that over stimulating and being cancelled. Just means that the whole stimming thing may take a bit longer.
I have an appointment on Friday for scan and blood test to see how I am getting on with stimming. I expected to feel bloated, but haven'y noticed a difference so am slightly concerned that I am not responding to the drug. Saying that, I thought I hadn't down regged and i had. Hot flushed kicked in the day I found out I had down regged!
I'm finding the stimming injections fine. I tried the top of my leg one day and found that painful so I am using my tummy, and hardly feel them. I am not having any side effects that are too bad. I have a bad taste in my mouth all of the time, which no amount of mints of mouthwash will get rid of. I have also been majorily moody with DH! Feel more moody and hormonal on the stimming than I did on the down regging, but hot flushes have stopped, so thats good.
Your DH sounds like a real sweetie. Treats everyday, I am going to tell my DH about your DH and hope that he will take a leaf out of your DH's book, he he he. Daily treats, great! Don't worry about the reduced dose of stimming meds as they will just increase that depending on what your response to the drug is. Its better this way that over stimulating and being cancelled. Just means that the whole stimming thing may take a bit longer.
I have an appointment on Friday for scan and blood test to see how I am getting on with stimming. I expected to feel bloated, but haven'y noticed a difference so am slightly concerned that I am not responding to the drug. Saying that, I thought I hadn't down regged and i had. Hot flushed kicked in the day I found out I had down regged!
Do you mind if i join you lovely ladies? me and dh both 26 been ttc since sep06, i have pcos dh sa absolutley fine we have been granted 3assisted conception and 3 ivf's so we are really lucky, on first cycle now strarted on bcp on 15th dec for 21 days thendown reg on 27th with buserelin injections, last pill on 4th jan.
Feeling a bit concerend because I dont seem to have any side effects from injections except from been really tired on an evening and been really bloated although that could just be from xmas ha ha! DH has been doing injections for me I have real phobia of needles
Is anyone else using buserelin and how are you finding it?
xx
Feeling a bit concerend because I dont seem to have any side effects from injections except from been really tired on an evening and been really bloated although that could just be from xmas ha ha! DH has been doing injections for me I have real phobia of needles
Is anyone else using buserelin and how are you finding it?
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here is latest status list.. please send me any updates - happy new year and may 2010 bring this group lots of healthy babies 
https://dl5.glitter-graphics.net/pub/1480/1480555ipgpdidffl.gif 4 Leaf Clover IVF & ICSI Buddies
June / July 09 Outcome
Akcher ICSI
RBaker ICSI
Mendy ICSI
Tanya ICSI #
Beckic IVF
Ena IVF
MaryB IVF
August / September 09 Outcome
Angelcakes -
Sammy2009 -
CupcakeQueen -
Emerald Sarah -
Brambletess - flow:
Jane1972 -
Mrs G - 8 week scan -all well - healthy HB
Wrightwhales -
Snowdrop -
October / November / December 09 Outcome
CupcakeQueen -
Mrs F -
aneageraussie - Natural BFP
NeyNey -
lioness168 -
Snowdrop -
Meli -
Bek74 - Twins!
Beckic -
Krissi - cancelled cycle
Maz -
Chocci - Nov Fresh ICSI
Kelly9 - Natural BFP
Noddysgirl - start down regg 2 Jan
MissMonty - start down regg 23 December
Rosie06 - start down regg 27th Dec
WishtobMama - start IVF 25 April 2010
Doodar - on IVF waiting list
https://dl5.glitter-graphics.net/pub/1480/1480555ipgpdidffl.gif 4 Leaf Clover IVF & ICSI Buddies
June / July 09 Outcome
Akcher ICSI
RBaker ICSI
Mendy ICSI
Tanya ICSI
#Beckic IVF
Ena IVF
MaryB IVF
August / September 09 Outcome
Angelcakes -
Sammy2009 -
CupcakeQueen -
Emerald Sarah -
Brambletess - flow:
Jane1972 -
Mrs G -
8 week scan -all well - healthy HB Wrightwhales -
Snowdrop -
October / November / December 09 Outcome
CupcakeQueen -
Mrs F -
aneageraussie - Natural BFP
NeyNey -
lioness168 -
Snowdrop -
Meli -
Bek74 -
Twins!Beckic -
Krissi -
cancelled cycleMaz -
Chocci - Nov Fresh ICSI
Kelly9 - Natural BFP
January / February 2010 Outcome
Caline - start stimms 24 December
Dilek - appt 30 December
Dilek - appt 30 December
Noddysgirl - start down regg 2 Jan
MissMonty - start down regg 23 December
Rosie06 - start down regg 27th Dec
WishtobMama - start IVF 25 April 2010
Doodar - on IVF waiting list
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Happy new year everyone!!
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Morning,
Hi caline - good luck for Friday, fertility nurse told me that lots of women don't have any symptoms with the meds, I'm sure everything is going well. AF arrived for me today but CARE are closed now until Monday so I have to wait until then to contact them to arrange down regging scan - actually I was really surprised they were closed on new years eve.
Hi Rosie06 - welcome, I started down regging injections on 23rd December, actually I've noticed that I have been feeling more tired than usual and also I've been getting some pins and neddles, but don't worry if you don't think you are getting any side affects, I've been told that lots of women don't - actually ferility nurse told me she recieves more calls from people worried about the lack of side affects than those who have them. Wishing you lots of luck.
Hi Noddysgirl - hope your first down regging meds go well, are you using nasal spray or injecting?
Wishing everyone a happy new year - we've been invited to a house party, I've made up an excuse so I don't have to drink so I'm now the taxi service for the night which is cool by me! Have fun everyone xx
Hi caline - good luck for Friday, fertility nurse told me that lots of women don't have any symptoms with the meds, I'm sure everything is going well. AF arrived for me today but CARE are closed now until Monday so I have to wait until then to contact them to arrange down regging scan - actually I was really surprised they were closed on new years eve.
Hi Rosie06 - welcome, I started down regging injections on 23rd December, actually I've noticed that I have been feeling more tired than usual and also I've been getting some pins and neddles, but don't worry if you don't think you are getting any side affects, I've been told that lots of women don't - actually ferility nurse told me she recieves more calls from people worried about the lack of side affects than those who have them. Wishing you lots of luck.
Hi Noddysgirl - hope your first down regging meds go well, are you using nasal spray or injecting?
Wishing everyone a happy new year - we've been invited to a house party, I've made up an excuse so I don't have to drink so I'm now the taxi service for the night which is cool by me! Have fun everyone xx
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Hi Miss Monty
I am Down Regging with nasal spray. Just want to get started now, bored of all this waiting lol
I am Down Regging with nasal spray. Just want to get started now, bored of all this waiting lol
for everyone here!
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Despite my lack of side effects/symptoms I have lots of enlarging follicles!! Yay! Lost count of how many and they are all the same size, which apparently is really good. I have another scan either sunday or monday, depending on my blood result, then egg collection tues or weds!!
Missmonty, sounds like you have down regged if you have had your bleed! When do you think you will start injecting?
Peartree, all the best for monday, lat us know what happens.
Happy New Year everyone!!!!!!!!!
Missmonty, sounds like you have down regged if you have had your bleed! When do you think you will start injecting?
Peartree, all the best for monday, lat us know what happens.
Happy New Year everyone!!!!!!!!!
Happy new year everyone... can i join this thread... i start down reg first appointment on 11 Jan!!! So excited and nervous!!! Hope it all works out for all of us!!! Caline... cant believe you gonna have EC... time has flown by sooo fast!!! good luck sweety!!!
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