Am I mad wanting a HyCoSy?

[2016]

I had two ectopics TTC #1. One removed surgically, saving the tube. The second ended on it's own, I was told probably blocking the tube. I was referred for a hycosy and was told to call when I got my next AF. THey said there was only a 0.002% chance of me falling pregnant naturally and that I would most certainly need IVF. Anyway, that HyCoSy never happened because I fell pregnant with DS straightaway. The doctors were all astounded (and so am I to this day).

Now TTC #2 for almost a year I can't shake the feeling I still need the test. Sure being pregnant shows something could get through but what if pregnancy etc. has changed things. A lot of time has passed they could have completely closed off. Maybe.
I just don't see why last time I fell pregnant 3 times in 9 months (even if two were ectopic) and this time nothing in 12 months.
I asked one GP and she was really nasty telling me I should go on anti-depressants because I "shouldn't still feel sad about my losses". I was hardly bawling in her office, I merely said that my constant ovary pain reminded me of the pain I had with the ectopics and got me down sometimes.

Do you think the test would help me? I am thinking, if it showed my tubes were blocked I could just give up and go on BCP and get off this crazy rollercoaster. If they are open it might flush them out increasing my chances.
How will I convince a doctor of this?

...am even considering paying to have it done myself but unfortunately still need the referral from my doc.

Any advice welcomed.

 

[marymoomin]

Hi there.
I am sorry about your ectopics. I too have had two. The first one they removed my tube after misdiagnosing it for 8 weeks, the second I got methotrexate. In between these, and 11 weeks before the removed the remaining tube ( due to it being rubbish and apparently useless) I fell pregnant with DD.

The last ectopic was in Nov 11 and I had a private hsg, and the tube was totally perfect. However deep inside I knew this....because of DD.

The peace of mind was good, but I knew in myself if one baby could make it down, that eventually another would too.

If money is no object ( mine was paid for by my works med insurance, I personally couldnt have afforded it) have it done, but also trust your body.
XXXXXX

 

[peaceful_dahl]

Hi there, I really don't have much advice regarding the hycosy (not familiar with this actually) but I am really appalled by the GP's lack of professionalism! How awful that you had to experience such ugliness....do you have to go back to that doctor?

 

[gypsysoul]

I had one done in June and fell pregnant two cycles later in August after trying for nearly two years. unfortunately I lost that baby but I absolutely believe I would not have gotten pregnant without one! Is there anyway you can change your doctor? She sounds terrible!

 

[2016]

Thanks ladies!

marymoomin...I think you are right and there is a very good chance at least one of my tubes is perfectly fine. I should trust my body more but trust has to be EARNED and my body has not done that.
Just can't shake this nagging doubt and sometimes I wonder if even this negative thought is affecting my ability TTC?

peaceful_dahl....it is a test where they push dye through your tubes to check for blockages. It is also known to flush out minor blockages and increase chances of conception.

Yes I am going back to a different doctor next time. Never met her before either so I just hope she is nicer and I also hope that the nasty doc didn't put something in my notes which will bias all future doctors against me.
She also said, when referring to the ectopic surgery, "when they removed the baby, foetus, WHATEVER! from your tube..." My precious baby, my hopes and dreams is never "whatever". She admitted she has 4 children and has never had a loss herself.
Her other suggestions were:
1) Get sterilised - you would suggest a 31 year old woman who still wants more children to get sterilised? Really???
2) Go on BCP for 6-12 months to try forget about it - I pointed out I would start worrying again soon as I started TTC and the pain came back.
3) Take strong opiate painkillers to mask the pain.

WHY NOT TRY FIX THE FRIKKING PAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[peaceful_dahl]

2016, oh ok, I'm not familiar with the medical terms of the test! I know it as the "blue dye flush" lol

As for the notes the doc left, in the US, one is entitled to a fully copy of their medical records legally. Is this the same for the UK?

 

[2016]

peaceful_dahl....yes you are right I can ask to look at them, though having done that before, this in itself can have you labelled a "troublemaker". Crazy system.

Had an interesting experience yesterday where I e-mailed a consultant at a local hospital (got the addy off his website and expected it would go through to his secretary not him). I was trying to get an estimate of costs for an HyCoSy should I need to pay for one myself. To my amazement he replied to say, after 2 ectopics, I should most certainly qualify for one on the NHS even if I have already conceived. He also said he would recommend a lap and dye though as minor adhesions can be cleared with surgical instruments then and there. I am not 100% convinced I want that though because it's the difference between a 10 minute minimally invasive procedure I will walk out of with a few cramps, and a 1 hour laporascopic surgery under general anaesthetic which will leave me in pain afterwards. Besides, the cost for all that would be no doubt astronomical.

 

[2016]

Just to update:

I got the GP to refer me to a private specialist. He didn't want to, tried to delay me with blood tests that wouldn't actually diagnose anything in my case, but I insisted and insisted until I got my referral. Went and saw an amazing FS yesterday and now have my HyCoSy booked for MONDAY!!!!
He also prescribed me the progesterone I need to lengthen my LP which has taken 4 NHS GPs and 2 other specialists to refuse before this doc told me "it's obvious I need it".