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Agree with everything said here. Seperation of church and state works BOTH ways. It's unconstitutional plain and simple.
Have you read what you've just written? Do you understand what separation of church and state really means? It means you may NOT enforce your beliefs onto people who may not believe in the same thing you do(it's what makes America a free nation). This means no company, governments etc may force you to do or restrict you from access to human liberties due to their religious beliefs, in the legal world it's a big deal and effects more rights then you can imagine.
Also, as CalliesMom pointed out not everybody has sex before marriage. I've only been with my husband, no need for birthcontrol before then. Romney isn' t trying to interfere with people's access to birth control proof please, this is called 'talk from the bubble' he's upholding the constitution by not forcing people to go against their religious beliefs.
You have this point completely wrong. He is talking about restricting access to birth control, it's a religious thing. Since when is denying women access to BCP forcing women to go against their religious beliefs (how dare Republicans impede women's freedoms!). Under USA law now, you have the right to not take BC and be faithful to your religion, under your proposed law, you restrict everyone's rights.
When I was looking for jobs, this will be much tougher for you if you allow religious gurus to set their authority on human liberties. Most of the companies you'd work or are owned by Jewish people. Put your keepa on and don't you bring that hotdog into the workplace unless it's kocher and 100% beef.
I made sure find a good company that I fit well with. That means you "jive" with their company values, goals, etc etc. How is the coverage of birth control issue any different?! I would just say, " I suppose I'm not a good fit here" and move on to a company that gave me access to the things I wanted!Get real sweetheart, isn't it already hard enough to find a good job without making it all weird too? I'm atheist, I'd hate to have to finally find the health insurance, position I like, pay that's high enough and work hours without having to conform to some cult leader's craziness ( This is absolutely not any different than finding a company that provides the "other" benefits you want ie paid vacation, type of insurance coverage etc etc).
I think Romney will SUPPORT women by getting the economy running. Romney's invisible plan, we're still all eagerly awaiting the unveiling of this magical plan. Can you please help me and show me anywhere where there is some sort of comprehensive 'plan' please. I feel his bubble talk using the word 'plan', 'economy', and 'get going' alone has sold every Republican voter. Palin did a similar sort of big talking important sound bite job. I agreed with everything he said in the debate about supporting working moms. That he'd support them, oh and I were waiting for the how, we never heard anything. I nearly spat out my food in disgust!
I don't think Obama is doing a good job. My opinion. ???Usually people have reasons. Obviously others have other opinions. It's clear that we're economically worse off than we were in 08. Yes, the white guy sat down to eat, got up without paying the tab and the black guy who sat down next had to pay for it. Gas prices are through the roof, unemployment is higher, more people on welfare etc etc. Those are facts that nobody can spin. Bubble talk again. Here are the facts:
https://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/march_april_2012/features/obamas_top_50_accomplishments035755.php
How is it stupid to want to give another candidate a shot to do a better job? Even if Obama was thrown into a "hole" so to speak from previous policies, doesn't it make sense that he would want to start putting dirt in to raise us/him out of it instead of digging it deeper.
Sure, he seems like a nice guy. But he's inexperienced as inexperienced as Romney, you must understand how smart this statement makes you sound and I don't like his policies. Not to mention it makes me CRINGE that they're using the Osama Bin Laden thing as a campaign strategy.you're right, he doesn't need to use this, but for all the token war loving Republicans it's spellbinding! I'm pretty sure Obama wasn't there raiding that compound that night. I'm glad you realise this, he has MUCH better things to do with his time ???
So disrespectful to the SEALS that were doing all the work. Really, did Bush jump into The middle east guns blazing, tanks revving? This is not a cowboy movie!! Also, the fact that the Obama administration has come out and openly said they "messed up" with the attack in Libya is disconcerting. Ok, sure she said the "buck stopped with her". But this is our SECRETARY OF STATE and the people that the president is entrusting with our national security. Yes, not being a lying slime bucket is extremely important to winning over relations foreign countries. Let's leave small business to the small businessmen like Romney and foreign diplomacy to cool, collected, practiced (he's an 'experienced' lawyer) Obama + friends. Republicans won't make friends or win negotiations with the redneck hostility they carry around.
Have you read what you've just written? Do you understand what separation of church and state really means? It means you may NOT enforce your beliefs onto people who may not believe in the same thing you do(it's what makes America a free nation). This means no company, governments etc may force you to do or restrict you from access to human liberties due to their religious beliefs, in the legal world it's a big deal and effects more rights then you can imagine.
Also, as CalliesMom pointed out not everybody has sex before marriage. I've only been with my husband, no need for birthcontrol before then. Romney isn' t trying to interfere with people's access to birth control proof please, this is called 'talk from the bubble' he's upholding the constitution by not forcing people to go against their religious beliefs.
You have this point completely wrong. He is talking about restricting access to birth control, it's a religious thing. Since when is denying women access to BCP forcing women to go against their religious beliefs (how dare Republicans impede women's freedoms!). Under USA law now, you have the right to not take BC and be faithful to your religion, under your proposed law, you restrict everyone's rights.
When I was looking for jobs, this will be much tougher for you if you allow religious gurus to set their authority on human liberties. Most of the companies you'd work or are owned by Jewish people. Put your keepa on and don't you bring that hotdog into the workplace unless it's kocher and 100% beef.
I made sure find a good company that I fit well with. That means you "jive" with their company values, goals, etc etc. How is the coverage of birth control issue any different?! I would just say, " I suppose I'm not a good fit here" and move on to a company that gave me access to the things I wanted!Get real sweetheart, isn't it already hard enough to find a good job without making it all weird too? I'm atheist, I'd hate to have to finally find the health insurance, position I like, pay that's high enough and work hours without having to conform to some cult leader's craziness ( This is absolutely not any different than finding a company that provides the "other" benefits you want ie paid vacation, type of insurance coverage etc etc).I think Romney will SUPPORT women by getting the economy running. Romney's invisible plan, we're still all eagerly awaiting the unveiling of this magical plan. Can you please help me and show me anywhere where there is some sort of comprehensive 'plan' please. I feel his bubble talk using the word 'plan', 'economy', and 'get going' alone has sold every Republican voter. Palin did a similar sort of big talking important sound bite job. I agreed with everything he said in the debate about supporting working moms. That he'd support them, oh and I were waiting for the how, we never heard anything. I nearly spat out my food in disgust!
I don't think Obama is doing a good job. My opinion. ???Usually people have reasons. Obviously others have other opinions. It's clear that we're economically worse off than we were in 08. Yes, the white guy sat down to eat, got up without paying the tab and the black guy who sat down next had to pay for it. Gas prices are through the roof, unemployment is higher, more people on welfare etc etc. Those are facts that nobody can spin. Bubble talk again. Here are the facts:
https://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/march_april_2012/features/obamas_top_50_accomplishments035755.php
How is it stupid to want to give another candidate a shot to do a better job? Even if Obama was thrown into a "hole" so to speak from previous policies, doesn't it make sense that he would want to start putting dirt in to raise us/him out of it instead of digging it deeper.
Sure, he seems like a nice guy. But he's inexperienced as inexperienced as Romney, you must understand how smart this statement makes you sound and I don't like his policies. Not to mention it makes me CRINGE that they're using the Osama Bin Laden thing as a campaign strategy.you're right, he doesn't need to use this, but for all the token war loving Republicans it's spellbinding! I'm pretty sure Obama wasn't there raiding that compound that night. I'm glad you realise this, he has MUCH better things to do with his time ???
So disrespectful to the SEALS that were doing all the work. Really, did Bush jump into The middle east guns blazing, tanks revving? This is not a cowboy movie!! Also, the fact that the Obama administration has come out and openly said they "messed up" with the attack in Libya is disconcerting. Ok, sure she said the "buck stopped with her". But this is our SECRETARY OF STATE and the people that the president is entrusting with our national security. Yes, not being a lying slime bucket is extremely important to winning over relations foreign countries. Let's leave small business to the small businessmen like Romney and foreign diplomacy to cool, collected, practiced (he's an 'experienced' lawyer) Obama + friends. Republicans won't make friends or win negotiations with the redneck hostility they carry around.
Because so much doen't add up. But there's much history and maybe bubbling up of this alternative explanation, I just can't wrap my head around why this is going on? Why is this happening in 2012? This is cave man stuff here! Shakes her head and sullenly goes off to bed. Grey skies above until election day 
wow I feel for you. Why is it so expensive over there?
That will always upset me. The makeup of our country is a melting pot of ethnicities, economic backgrounds, etc. We all carry the burden, and when one group becomes the scapegoat for a downfall, it brings our country back to a much uglier time than we are in now.
My husband and I work incredibly hard and STILL struggle. By the time we pay our bills there is not much left over...these tax increases are really going to hurt us. We already cut so many of our bills. We don't even have TV right now just so we can stay afloat and keep a meager savings account.
