Any1 put baby rice/porridge in bottle, If so how much ??

[v2007]

I don't want the whole should/shouldnt debate. Just want to know if anyone has put baby rice in LO's bottle. If so how much? And was it rice or porridge? I have heard about putting rusk in but not sure about that as it contains sugar and wheat.

Thanks in advance ladies

Not read any replies so maybe repeating myself.

Its a massive choking hazard.

Looking at your ticker he seems on the young side for anything other than milk.

Rusk, porridge and baby rice should all be mixed with milk and given from a spoon and not a bottle.

 

[justlove]

oh I premake bottles just so it gives me more time to read threads like these lol. I also heat them up in the microwave. I did the same for for my 14yr daughter back in the day before everything was BFA free as it is now. I did make fresh feeds for few months for my LO now at the begining but honestly an extremely tired mum who is not alert on the ball is more unsafe than premaking them.

with regards to the OP question sorry I have no experience in putting baby rice in bottles so I dont know how it effects the milk as I have only ever put infant gaviscon in bottles as it was prescribed but ended up doing more harm than good so i stopped. With regards to babies being sick as mine always was I was also told whilst in hospital that it is natural reaction for babies to turn there head.

 

[skunkpixie]

I think that in some exceptional circumstances adding baby rice is ok. My friends son was a big boy and was draining 9oz bottles of hungry baby milk at 3 months and still crying for more. What other choice did she have? Her health visitor was aware she was doing it. I would still say always consult your health visitor or doctor before going ahead with it as there may be other things you can try first. Good luck x

There is another choice. The other choice to use a spoon which is also alot safer.

Im guessing she might have tried this first, Im not sure. Shes not an irresponsible person and was working it through with her healh visitor. The out come was putting 1 spoon of baby rice in her sons bottles which saw him through until she could wean him at 4 months.

My sister knew a lady whose HVs knew she was putting SMASH granules in her baby's bottles, the lady in question wasn't a young irresponsible mum but had been told to do this by the older generation and the HV gave it quiet approval so my sister's friend thought it must be ok; all the HV cared about was her patients keeping up with the charts.The little boy in question gained masses of weight but was not getting enough vitamins and minerals as the potato was filling him up (and the salt could have been lethal), he ended up getting a really bad stomach bug lasting several weeks and lost several pounds over the course of it. His mum then got told off for letting him lose so much weight! The same HVs advised my sister to force feed her 6 month old baby crisps and chocolate so she could keep up with the charts. Some HVs really should not be in the job just because a HV advises something I wouldn't necessarily do it especially if advice from everywhere else including the birth to 5 book that HVs hand out say to never put rice or other food in a baby bottle.

But then if you cant trust your HV advice then what the hell are they there for? Who can you trust to give the right advice?

I dont feel that my friend was in the wrong. She had the backing of her healthcare professional, a screaming, hungry, unhappy baby and 2 other children to take care of. She was doing the best she could at the time on the advice of somebody who is qualified to give help and advice on how to safely and healthily look after and raise an infant.

I agree that there are many hazards and no no's when FF (pre-making, microwaving, adding rice etc), and I will be doing everything I can to avoid these things and stick to NHS guidlines, as we have decided to FF this time round. But I dont think we should go on at and nag mothers that do any of these things as they are just doing what they think is best for their babies. They come here for a sympathetic and honest opinion, not things like "OMG I cant belive you are even asking this, what an irresponsible, terrible mother you must be" which is a vibe I have got from some posts. xx

 

[summer rain]

I go to my GP for weaning advice and if she feels its out of her remit then she will refer to someone more specialist in whatever it is; HVs are not doctors and are not qualified to diagnose or prescribe treatments (there are some exceptions for thrush medication and other stuff like that) but even if they were it does seem like people follow their advice when it suits them and is convenient and don't follow it when they don't; I've seen several posts where someone has only been advised to give baby rice via a spoon by their doctor yet are still asking the best way to put it in a bottle, yet on other replies/threads those posters are mocking people who don't 100% take every advice from HVs or GPs at face value. Surely these women are not taking their GPs advice either and I am sure their GPs would be horrified if they knew that the mums are looking to put the rice in a bottle. I never said your friend was in the wrong but the HV was. There are HVs out there who will advise mums to give any food that will get their baby's weight on the top centiles (because they wrongly believe anything below the 50th centile is medically underweight), some who advise weaning at 10 weeks, some that advise giving a newborn 4-6oz of diluted juice or brown sugar in water to help constipation, the list goes on and on. Sometimes HVs can give outdated and potentially very dangerous advice.

 

[skunkpixie]

Then shouldnt we just ditch HVs all together and just stick with GPs and midwives?

The NHS are cutting funding for baby formula in hospitals, but if they just cut out all HV jobs then the money could go to the neo-natal units and training more midwives.

Even if mothers are only picking and choosing certain advice to follow and other advice to ignore, the government (well we) are still paying health visiors to dish out the bad advice aswell as the good. Then we are not only paying for the medical treatment of babies who suffer the consiquences of bad HV advice, we are also paying the legal cost of defending these people from the parents who decide to sue due to their children suffering from the direct result of the bad advice from the HVs. Doesnt that seem a bit mad? This is an NHS we are supposed to trust, but I suppose at the end of the day we have no choice but to trust these people when we are being belittled left and right for going with our own instincts.

 

[summer rain]

The new government are enlisting 100s more HVs, hopefully they will also update the training of some of the older ones as well because the training in some cases is very outdated. I have heard that in the past you needed considerably less to qualify as a HV than in the past few years, as well. I do think the HV system needs overhauling, yes. Not all Hvs are bad, don't get me wrong, just some of them give advice that is questionable.

 

[bigbetty]

Hey skunkpixie just thought I would let you know that actually you can pre-make formula. The government and NHS follow guidelines from the World Health Organisation and while they do say the best way is to make fresh for each feed, it says if you want or need to pre-make then just make them the same way as fresh, rapid cool and store in the fridge for up to 24hrs.

Here is a link to the guidelines if you want to take a look xx

https://www.who.int/foodsafety/publications/micro/PIF_Bottle_en.pdf

 

[Lianne1986]

with my kids i would do ANYTHING to keep them safe,

whether its to make sure they dont drown in the bath, holding there hands across the road, making sure they dnt burn themselves on hot things etc.

if i THINK something can harm them I SIMPLY DONT DO IT. i dont cross the road without holding there hands and think 'oh they MIGHT be ok' i just dont take the risk?

why take the risk with putting milk/rice in the bottle. because u dont know 100% tht it wont harm ur baby. why risk it? is it really worth the risk?

i dont think so.

 

[Char.due.jan]

None of you who put the rice in bottles have given a valid reason why you won't give it on a spoon. So I assume it's purely for your convienience...

 

[Lianne1986]

None of you who put the rice in bottles have given a valid reason why you won't give it on a spoon. So I assume it's purely for your convienience...

yes! i thought tht, like another poster said if they WON'T take it by spoon they are obviously not ready!

 

[ellismum]

None of you who put the rice in bottles have given a valid reason why you won't give it on a spoon. So I assume it's purely for your convienience...

yes! i thought tht, like another poster said if they WON'T take it by spoon they are obviously not ready!

it's mother nature and your baby telling you that they are simply not ready to handle digesting food but hey, mother knows best! Ummm no, in these instances your baby does. one of the things that throughout evolution has remained the same.

I bumped into an old friend the other day who's LO is 11 weeks and she said that they tried baby rice but LO wouldn't take it so her OH shoved it in her mouth

 

[masons.mummy]

That is terrible Ellis mum. If your baby wont take it from a spoon they are not ready. You need to just ride this one out it will be over in a couple of weeks. Maybe try the hungry baby milk bit not the goodnight drink as that is for 6m+. If you are wanting to give your baby juice, I would say don't. They don't need it so young and your LO might not take water in the future.

 

[skunkpixie]

Hey skunkpixie just thought I would let you know that actually you can pre-make formula. The government and NHS follow guidelines from the World Health Organisation and while they do say the best way is to make fresh for each feed, it says if you want or need to pre-make then just make them the same way as fresh, rapid cool and store in the fridge for up to 24hrs.

Here is a link to the guidelines if you want to take a look xx

https://www.who.int/foodsafety/publications/micro/PIF_Bottle_en.pdf

Thankyou very much for that. Everything I have read so far with my FF research has said that you must throw away feeds after 2 hours even if unused. I wasnt trying to say that things like that are specifically bad or harmful, just that Ive read that it is advised not to do things like pre-make, microwave etc. xx

 

[bigbetty]

Hey skunkpixie just thought I would let you know that actually you can pre-make formula. The government and NHS follow guidelines from the World Health Organisation and while they do say the best way is to make fresh for each feed, it says if you want or need to pre-make then just make them the same way as fresh, rapid cool and store in the fridge for up to 24hrs.

Here is a link to the guidelines if you want to take a look xx

https://www.who.int/foodsafety/publications/micro/PIF_Bottle_en.pdf

Thankyou very much for that. Everything I have read so far with my FF research has said that you must throw away feeds after 2 hours even if unused. I wasnt trying to say that things like that are specifically bad or harmful, just that Ive read that it is advised not to do things like pre-make, microwave etc. xx

You're welcome hun. Once you have taken them out of the fridge they need to be used within 2hrs unless you put them straight in a cool bag with an ice pack where they will last between 4 and 6hrs depending on conditions. As with any food keeping formula cool slows the growth of bacteria thus making it usable for longer xx

I just find it so much easier to prepare all of Fran's bottles in one go and then heat one as needed - we always fed on demand and I couldn't imagine having to wait for the kettle to cool for half an hour when she was screaming for a feed lol.

And as for microwaving the reason they say not to is because of hotspots. I have always microwaved Fran's bottles but make sure I shake them very well after heating to mix in any hotspots and make it all the same temperature.

 

[Sarah&Ady]

i think there are alot of people on here that 'read' too much...

i guess you have all bought the manual on how to live your life too? and self help books

get a grip people

Sorry but this comment had me an OH in stitches!...... there is certainly some truth in that comment! Peace n love to all

 

[xnewxmummyx]

i think there are alot of people on here that 'read' too much...

i guess you have all bought the manual on how to live your life too? and self help books

get a grip people

Sorry but this comment had me an OH in stitches!...... there is certainly some truth in that comment! Peace n love to all

hmmmmm is that a good or bad thing? lol

 

[Sarah&Ady]

i think there are alot of people on here that 'read' too much...

i guess you have all bought the manual on how to live your life too? and self help books

get a grip people

Sorry but this comment had me an OH in stitches!...... there is certainly some truth in that comment! Peace n love to all

hmmmmm is that a good or bad thing? lol

Defo good! Its a very true statement... not just on here but in real life too!

 

[xnewxmummyx]

love ur statement on ur signature bit hun!! its sooooooo true

xxx

 

[Sarah&Ady]

Yes... I do feel that it is my personal 'disclaimer' to all my posts! x

 

[xnewxmummyx]

lol good on ya!!

xx