Anyone attending ACU ninewells hospital Dundee??

[Wallie]

Thank you!

Good luck with everything. I just hope mine works but OH has spoken about where we can go next, which I'm pleased about if this doesn't work. I said Glasgow is the nearest place so maybe, if we have to try again, we'll go there next time.

 

[wishingalways]

Hi wallie, congratulations on being PUPO, remember think positive thoughts, it only takes one.

Hi everyone,

Its been a long 8 days, I have been trying to stay of B&B at my husbands, friends and my phsychic ladies request.... lasted 8 days but its really hard. I think coming on here and just catching up with you guys is fine, they were just getting a little worried as i always read into everything and think the worst.

Well the big news (if you believe which i totally do) is that after about 8 months of waiting i went to have my psychic reading with an amazing woman who helps the police with missing person enquiries. Her speciality is feeling how people have died and communicating with spirits but she was amazing at the telling me about my present and future as well.

I have been ttc for nearly 7 years so you can imagine how much it has taken over my life, and believe me when I say I am obsessed with being able to have a child with my husband who I love so much. She asked me to shuffle the tarot cards and in my head ask them a question or if I didnt want to know anything specific to just shuffle them. I of course asked them if I was going to have any children and If the IVF was going to work first time.

Well she layed them out and started crying and so did my friend who was sitting next to me, she said she really felt my pain and asked why there was such a big issue about having a baby, of course I then burst into tears as well and couldnt talk, she asked me to confirm that I had had test done and so had my husband and stated that they found nothing wrong, which i nodded, she then said can I tell you what i think is wrong and I nodded, she then said it was me, that I was completely obsessed and broken and that I had convinced myself that I couldnt have a child even though i wanted it so badly that I was completely broken inside, she said my emotions and hormones were so irratic that my body didnt know what to do with itself. I knew she was totally right and I sobbed and sobbed my heart out but in a good way, it was like someone had lifted a huge burden of my shoulders.

She kept saying that she was waiting for me, to believe in my ability to carry a child and then said and you definatley dont need fertility treatment although I know your just about to have it, but maybe thats what you need to let go of the responsibility and be positive about it because it is out of your hands. She said she see me treading a thin line until may but then it is a concrete and I begin to enjoy it. She also then said i will have another child within 18 months.

I know you could take it or leave what psychics say but some of the other things she said she could never have know, she told my things about my husband i didnt know and when i got home and asked him he confirmed it.... she was amazing.... so from this point on I have to believe that I am going to be pregnant soon and by christmas I will have a baby in my arms, I was told to take a break from the forums and it has helped but i really miss knowing whats going on so I may not visit as often as I did but I will pop in every now and again.

I start taking my spray wednesday and I wish everyone the best of luck. Lots of baby dust. x

 

[Wallie]

Maybe that's half the battle. I've always said I'd be a lot less mental if someone told me I'd have a baby by such a date etc. It'd take the pressure off. That's what's maybe going to happen to you. best of luck with your treatment.

 

[WoodvilleGirl]

Hi Wallie - how you getting on? How are you finding the 2ww, have you got any symptoms? Let's hope that it's 3rd time lucky and you don't need to try another clinic. Positive thoughts, as Wishingalways said it only takes one, so let's hope it's this one!

Wishingalways - totally agree with Wallie on this. A friend of mine, who went through a failed ICSI cycle a few years ago, has just given me a booked called 'The Secret' by Rhonda Byrne. It's all about positive thinking and one of the quotes is "if you see it in your mind, you're going to hold it in your hand". Let's hope that we're all going to hold what we want in our hands.

We had our appt at Ninewells on Monday. Dr Metwally was running really late, we then found out that they'd lost DH's first sample and the results from the second weren't good. The count was 15 million, so he said we definitely need IVF and they'd decide on the day if ICSI was needed instead. He said we were looking at a success rate of 10-15%. He said no point in doing an ultrasound, he's just wait until we start treatment and no-one was available to do our bloods, so we had to go back today to get them done. Our GP had told us to make sure we took it as far as we could with Ninewells before we had to pay, just in case we need to go back there in the future and they would have everything on file.

Then today, DH's results came through from GCRM. The count is much lower and motility is poor. They've said it would be suitable for ICSI, so we'll just need to see what they say on the 10th when we go for our consultation appointment.

I'm off to my GP in the morning to get a steroid injection for an inflamed tendon in my shoulder, so I'm just hoping it's not too painful!

Hello to anyone else who is going to Ninewells and wishing everyone lots of xx

 

[Wallie]

Hi,

Nah, no side effects as such. Just the usual sore boobs and cramps. I'm doing okay but that's me just into the 2nd week so this is when it gets more emotional for me. I'm not testing though, so that should stop alot of tears unnecessarily, or at least early!

I remember Ninewells said straight away we'd need ICSI because OH had sperm antibodies and on our first cycle his SA looked good. So they just did convential IVF and none fertilised! So if you do end up going to Ninewells and have enough eggs I'd go IVF/ICSI 50/50 just incase there's a problem.

 

[WoodvilleGirl]

Thanks for the advice Wallie, will remember that.

Hope you're managing to keep positive and stay away from the testing kit. Can't be long to go now?

 

[Wallie]

Still a week tomorrow before it's my official testing date!

 

[lee-ann]

Hi all,

I'm currently on the nine wells waiting list and have been so since December 2010 for ICSI treatment. At the time I was given a waiting list time of 2years, but last month I phoned Anne mcConnell to ask where in the queue I was and she replied atleast another two to two years on the waiting list! I just can't believe it's increased from 2 years to 3.5 years and I'm still no closer to getting seen. Right now it's not an issue as my fiancée are getting married in december , but as soon as the wedding is out the way I know he is keen to start a family! Any advice on the waiting lists from ninewells, as the frustration is really kicking in as we first went for investigations 8 years ago and it's taken soooo long to get to this point! They first thought it was Pcos but I've been since given the all clear and have identified my other half as having a poor motility and low Count. I'm beginning to wonder if I should move across the border from Stirlingshire to Lanarkshire in an attempt to see someone at Glasgow quicker, but then I don't know what their waiting lists are like!! Any advice greatly appreciated!!

 

[girlydreamer]

Hi, Leeann

Ive just had my appointment at ninewells have been approved for icsi due to low sperm the waiting list for us is three years so i know how you feel and cant afford to go private. The consultant mentioned to me that egg sharing could be an option and would be like going private it would cost us 1100 for icsi so if thats something you would be interested in that may be an option to get your treatment faster.

Good luck whatever you decide.


Baby dust xxxxxxx

 

[Meeru8]

Hi all, I'm new to this online sharing thing so bare with me (my spelling is pants).

We have been TTC for nearly 9 years and after tonnes of tests, clomid, 2 x IUI and 2 x IVF they finally decided my eggs were both poor in quality and quanity. This wasn't the case when we started this experience. Maybe if we had started with IVF we wouldn't be childless. But hayho.

When Ninewells dropped the bomb shell 2 years ago (after second failed IVF) about my poor response and the fact the only way forward was with donor eggs, I didn't believe them and I couldn't get my head around not having "my own" baby. A fantastic friend offered me her eggs, but again I was still hoping for our miracle. So we stopped treatment for 2 years.

In the summer of 2011 we discovered Ninewells had started egg sharing and I (we) were in a better place mentally about using a donor egg. I had accepted the fact that if the baby I (we) wanted soooo much for sooo long was ever gonna happen it would be with a donor.

Ninewells are great (in the most) but they do seem a tad disorganised. I don't think moving around wards has helped. Depending on which staff member you ask you will no doubt get a different answer, especially about waiting times.

Anyhoo, I started the dummy run of drugs in August 2011 which was promising that the wait wouldn't be the 12 months ish they had initially quoted. As time ticked by the waiting times we were quoted got longer and longer. I'm CMV negative which didn't help.

There is light at the end of our very long tunnel. We have a donor. A fabulous lady who is a great friend is giving us her eggs. There is nothing to suggest her treatment won't go well, but we have learned the hard way not to get our hopes up.

She's already on the spray and I start on 14th April.

I wish everyone the best of luck, everything that is crossable is crossed!!!
XXX

 

[Wallie]

Meeru8, thanks for posting your story so far. What a long wait you've had. That's certainly a bad point with Ninewells, there's always waiting and waiting. Totally true about who you get you get a different answer. I also think if they'd got me to do IVF straight away rather than 2 IUI's and then a huge long wait on IVF I could have got a better response to each IVF cycle.

Lets hope you get that long awaited miracle.

 

[Meeru8]

Hi all, especially to you Minno. I have no idea how to PM you back (something to do with 10 threads!?)

When I previously wrote that we started the dummy run of drugs in August 2011 for our donor cycle we were told 12 months'ish. I think at this time their labs were closed and were taking advantage of this by squeezing in as many dummy runs as they could regardless of positioning on the waiting list.

Initially we were told the waiting list wasn't too bad then as time went on they explained that the new Ovarian Reserve Test has caused their list to grow. Lots more women discovering they had low quantity so they don't have a first IVF go (if that makes sense) and went straight on the donor recipient list.

It got to the point that they couldn't give us an approx waiting time as a donor that matches us (virus neg etc) could be referred next week or next year. It didn't look good.

I asked if I would have other dummy runs at set intervals while we were on the list, but I was told no. Once you've had it thats it. The dummy run really messed up my cycle, it took 5 months for my period to start again, I had terrible flushes especially through the night. They decided I was menopausal and had nothing to do the with drugs, coincidence they said booooo!

I stopped the dummy run in Oct 11 and my period returned in Feb 12. I started the nasal spray 1 week ago and I'm waiting on a bleed, hopefully it comes before my baseline scan, just want to get onto the next stage.

Good luck to all xxx

 

[pcct]

Hey everyone just came across this post while trying to find waiting times for ninewells as i have been referred there for my ivf treatment but unsure what the waiting times r as i have seen ppl waiting up to 3 years ??

 

[Minno]

Hi all. Hi meeru8. Thanks for getting back to me I'd completely forgotten I'd pm'd you. Sorry to hear you were messed around so much at Dundee. I am now in the middle of my dummy run there and going for baseline scan soon. I was hoping it meant that we might get treatment soon but I'm not so sure now. I'll ask them but I bet they're non-committal. I've been lucky not to have had much in the way of side effects on buserelin but I'm a bit worried it might not have worked. I haven't had af yet either so they will scan me before she arrives. Like you I just want to move to the next stage. Are you still at dundee or have you gone somewhere else now? X

 

[Meeru8]

Hi all, hi Minno. I'm still at Ninewells. Our donor was in the other day for EC, we got 10 eggs which is fab. We were told to expect 2/3rds but 9 fertilised (I was beside myself) and we will be heading back up in a few days for ET.

I feel we weren't given the choice of day 3 or day 5, we were told if the numbers were good it would be a day 5 transfer. I didn't question it as it made sense at the time.

I'm now driving myself mad googling day 3 verus day 5 transfers. I'm going to step away from the computer.

Good luck to all. xx

 

[Minno]

Hi there. How exciting!!! Hope all goes well for you for ET. I'vr now had the baseline scan which was ok, around 5mm she said, now on progynova to thicken lining. Back up on Monday to have another scan and tonight had a bit of spotting. Is this normal? Af is due of course but I assumed she wouldn't shoeshine I was on the oestrogen. I did also exercise today and I sometimes get breakthru after that. Bloomin weird body I have!
Meeru8 I had a very disappointing experience with Dundee at baseline scan. We asked about length of time til treatment and the nurse went away and came back and said a year!!! From the dummy run?!!! We've already been on the list 7 months. I'm not a happy bunny and it reminded me of your experience with them. Any thoughts?
Please keep me posted on your progress and good luck! Xxxx

 

[Minno]

Shoeshine ? What? Stupid iPhone! Meant to write I assumed she wouldn't show
Lol

 

[pcct]

By the sounds of things Dundee doesn't sound like a smooth running process i have been thinking wither to phone up again and see how long they tell me lol

 

[Minno]

Hi pcct. I would be very interested to hear what they say to you. Seems to depend on who you ask there? We are ed ivf so wait times will be different but very frustrating all round. Good luck x

 

[pcct]

Yeah me as well I'll let u no if I ring and see what they say! Coz am just at the very early stage of ivf am still quite unsure what is what . I havnt been for my first appointment yet , I was told in April I should get a letter 3-4 months time for a consultation