Anyone else starting IVF October/November 2015?

[rebecca822]

Thank you ladies for all of your support!!
I will update everyone.
This is going to be the longest two weeks of my life. I think the waiting is worst

Hi ladies! We just transferred 2 excellent embryos!
We have 13 left that will be frozen. 3-4 of them are lesser quality.
Pregnancy test is on October 26.

 

[Mrs W 11]

Hi everyone
Kat – definitely wasn’t saying you shouldn’t be realistic, just open to the possibility that a miracle could happen for you, as it does for others. I still ttc each month in a relaxed way and I never expect to get pregnant, I assume I wont, but I know its not impossible and I do believe that being open to something makes it more likely.
TTCbaby – that’s really interesting about the research showing FET is better. I haven’t had any frosties yet but I do find the stims and a full cycle quite stressful and I imagine being stressed and tired when you have transfer isn’t great.
Psalm – has af arrived yet? Hope you can started stimming soon.
Rebecca – congrats on being PUPO! How are you feeling! Good luck during the TWW.
AFM…. Just waiting for AF to arrive so I can start the pill! At least starting the pill feels like something is happening finally I guess!

 

[ttcbaby117]

Rebecca - That is wonderful news hun! Rest up and let those embies burrow in nice and snug! Were they day 3 embies or day 5 blasts?

Mrs W - Yeah I know there are some clinics that are moving toward only doing FETs. They are seeing that it is helpful that the mom isn't all hyped up on the stim drugs. Also they are seeing that the possible low birth weight in IVF babies is not seen when the babies come from a FET. The last bit is that gestational diabetes is less prevalent in FET pregnancies than IVF pregnancies. I am not saying that any of this is full proof, meaning that if you get pg with IVF you WILL have a baby with low birth weight or you WILL have diabetes, but this is what I have come up with my research.

I understand what you are saying about starting the pill...when I started mine I did a little jump for joy! Very soon, you and I might well be on our way to our dream of our forever baby!

AFM - tonight is my last BCP, I continue on Lupron and go in for a US and BW next Tuesday. I hope everything look good in there!

 

[rebecca822]

Mrs W- the waiting is so difficult when you're waiting to start meds! It's the only time I get excited for AF
TTC- you're almost there! It's so excited when things are moving!

They transferred day 5 blasts.

Originally we were going to do half of the 21 eggs with ICSI but apparently all were done with ICSI due to the poor sperm quality/count.

 

[ttcbaby117]

That is awesome. You are PUPO! Such a wonderful feeling!!!

 

[Unlucky41]

Rebecca that is awesome very good result. Now to keep busy in the TWW.

TTC so excited for you that things are moving along. Are you taking much vitamins?

Mrs w when do you expect AF to come? Any day now?

Afm had first blood tes yesterday. Nurse said good starting point but obviously not there yet. Blood test every second day now. Trying not to think too much about it as there is still much waiting to go.

 

[Hopethisyear]

Rebecca - congrats on being PUPO!

TTC - yay for last BCP! Come on AF.

AFM - my transfer is canceled this cycle due to thin lining which I've never had before. Starting provera to bring on AF and the hoping for transfer in November.

 

[rebecca822]

Rebecca - congrats on being PUPO!

TTC - yay for last BCP! Come on AF.

AFM - my transfer is canceled this cycle due to thin lining which I've never had before. Starting provera to bring on AF and the hoping for transfer in November.

Oh how disappointing to have a cancelation! What a bummer!

 

[Psalm23v6]

Rebecca - congrats on being PUPO! Wishing you all the best for the TWW. Hope you can find something to take your mind off it.

Hope - so sorry about your cycle being canceled. Better though for them to get you into perfect shape than have you go through a cycle unnecessarily. Hoping time passes quickly and you can move on.

TTC - you're moving along well. Yay for the last BCP! How's the Lupron treating you? I hear some people have such a time on it. Fingers crossed for Tuesday.

Unlucky - Hope your arms don't suffer too much from all the blood tests! When I had my first cycle last year, I looked like a drug addict the nurses were so bad at taking my blood. Fingers crossed everything moves along nicely for you!

Mrs W11 - when should AF arrive? Looks like we are both trying to bring her on!

Hi Jean, hi Kat - Hope you're well!

AFM - I am still waiting for AF. If I didn't have the shot last week today would be CD1 but she hasn't arrived yet. Had some spotting yesterday and today, so hoping we won't be waiting too long.

 

[KatO79]

Congrats rebecca, FXed

Kat – definitely wasn’t saying you shouldn’t be realistic, just open to the possibility that a miracle could happen for you, as it does for others. I still ttc each month in a relaxed way and I never expect to get pregnant, I assume I wont, but I know its not impossible and I do believe that being open to something makes it more likely.

Oh there's always a possibility, I know that, but when you know you're chances are 3% for a natural pregnancy happening (due to my age of 36 and length of TTCing which is now 2 years), it kinda keeps you grounded and you just take things as they come. I think I'd be a bit more positive if we were TTC #2 since I would already have a child and know that I can get pregnant naturally fairly easily. But since we're TTC #1, things are much more unclear. Plus I deal with the "will I ever be a mother" questions when I'm feeling extra low, something I wouldn't be so worried about if I had a child already of course. So it has nothing to do with feeling open to it, my scientific brain knows that, it has to do with keeping myself sane on this journey. But perhaps you feel differently about your own journey because you have a child already? Everyone has their own way of dealing with their TTC journey and there is no right or wrong way, only what's right for each person based on how they feel and what their circumstances are.

Hope AF arrives soon for you so you can start BCP

AFM - my transfer is canceled this cycle due to thin lining which I've never had before. Starting provera to bring on AF and the hoping for transfer in November.

Awwww so sorry Hope I know how upsetting a cancellation can be. I had an IUI cycle cancelled some months ago and was practically devastated. FXed that things look really good for your November transfer

AFM can't wait until Saturday for my appointment and starting downregulation

 

[Mrs W 11]

Hi everyone

Kat - I would love to say that having a child already makes the desperation for a baby less. In some ways it makes it easier and I know I am extremely lucky, but its still really hard and I am going through the same emotions of heartbreak, desperation, longing, devastation and hopelessness as everyone else. My fertility has declined rapidly since my last pregnancy and I have a very low egg count so sadly having been pregnant before doesn't make me anymore likely to conceive naturally again.

Unlucky - I am not really sure when af should come. I used to have an 11 day luteal phase before I started taking dhea which meant she should have come yesterday or the day before. But when I started taking that af started coming later so maybe Saturday? I hope!! How are you doing?

Rebecca - how are you feeling mrs pupo?! Hope your tww speeds by!

Psalm - sounds like your af is on the way. I have my usual pre af back ache but no signs of her yet grrrr. Hope yours arrives soon. Have you tried white plans and planning a romantic night with dh?!

Hope - so sorry to hear that lovely. You must be gutted. What are they going to do differently to try and make sure you have a thicker lining next time? I guess its good that they do these tests, rather than go ahead and have a failed cycle because your body wasn't ready. A month seems ages when you are waiting for that bfp but once baby is here a month makes no difference at all. x

 

[Unlucky41]

Mrs w I hope your AF comes soon.I am day 11 today and waiting for my hormones to increase. I am ok just have a sore throat but not too bad.

Going for another blood test today hopefully get some idea when things will happen. It is hard when working. Just hope it falls on my off day!

Hope I am so sorry to hear that. Mrs w is right much better to wait for the right timing then get a bfn.

Hope everyone has good plans for the weekend

 

[rebecca822]

Hi Mrs W,
I am feeling great in my pupo state. I guess no drinking allowed anymore?
My TWW is speeding by already!! Originally they said I should come in 10/26 since 10 days from transfer is Saturday. I asked if I could come Friday instead and she said it would be fine!! So... I just shortened my wait by 2 days. Also, I am already not showing signs of my trigger (used an ic) so I'll probably use another ic on Tuesday or so and then frer on Thursday. I can't wait till I they call me with my results I'll be too anxious!!
I'm already planning on my test being positive, I am too hopeful. I hope that i am not proven wrong! I already calculated that my due date would be July 1.
I think I'm way to ahead of myself!
Ugh I hate this!

 

[KatO79]

Kat - I would love to say that having a child already makes the desperation for a baby less. In some ways it makes it easier and I know I am extremely lucky, but its still really hard and I am going through the same emotions of heartbreak, desperation, longing, devastation and hopelessness as everyone else. My fertility has declined rapidly since my last pregnancy and I have a very low egg count so sadly having been pregnant before doesn't make me anymore likely to conceive naturally again.

That's what I was trying to say, having a child already makes it easier. I think it's hard to compare though in this way and you can't argue for who's e.g. feeling worse or if two people's feelings of sadness are "equal" in strength. I can only say that I believe if I had a child already, I would feel more at ease about going through infertility with baby #2 because no matter how it worked out, I'd still be someone's mother. Having infertility with baby #1 at my age, I can't feel that way because if it doesn't work out and we decide not to adopt (we're still both a bit on the fence with it), I won't ever be someone's mother and will have to mourn that fact the rest of my life. Our situations are just different. Our feelings about our individual situation are neither right or wrong, they simply are. I think we should just respect that fact and that we each have our own way of coping with our individual situations.

If remaining in neutral is what I feel is the best way for me to cope with my situation, then that should be respected. If you feel being positive and sure you'll get baby #2 is your best way of coping, then I respect that. But you can't say because your way of coping is best for you that it's also the best way for everyone else, no matter differences in situation and personality. Everyone needs to find their own coping mechanisms while going through infertility without feeling like their way is wrong. Same goes for saying you feel as sad as e.g I do, it simply isn't something we can measure or you can know.

I forgot to mention that not having kids in this country, especially when you want them badly, because everyone who has them (with the exception of DH's big brother of course) doesn't talk to us anymore. About 98% of DH's friends have kids now and they avoid us. I remember one of them had fairly recently given birth to her son last year and asked me if I didn't want one while cuddling him and I didn't know what to answer her, seeing as I don't know her very well so stayed silent. We'd been trying for 7 months at the time and that happened to be the cycle I had a CP(my 1st and only one). If we're lucky, we see all these couples maybe once a year, otherwise we don't see them (1 couple with 2 kids being the exception, we see them 1-2 a year). Most people our age have 2-3 children and you can't make new friends with people that have kids if you're childless because they consider themselves "in another place in their lives" and us childless people couldn't possibly get it. They wouldn't care we're suffering from infertility I once asked a hairdresser (she's not my regular one) about it since she at the time had her son about 7 months previous and she confirmed all this. So we're social pariahs at the moment, the only exceptions being that immature friend and 3 of DH's male friends that are also childless (one wants them and is planning on TTC in 1-2 years since he got married this July, one I seriously doubt wants them and would be a terrible father anyway and the third I don't think he'll ever get married or find someone because he's insecure with women and has never had a girlfriend).

 

[rebecca822]

Kat- in sure not having any children is much harder!! I have an adorable 3 year old who keeps me busy and upbeat. Even when I want to be sad or feel bad for myself I remember that I still need to be a good mom to DD.
DD is also a good distraction from everything. I can't imagine if I had to come home to a quiet house every day.
And also, I know that if the treatments don't work than at least we have 1 beautiful child.
Still, like mrs W said it is not easy to be SIF and go through all of this.

 

[Mrs W 11]

Wow! Kat all I was saying was stay positive, was just trying to be supportive, after all, this is a support forum. At no point have I tried to compare our situations so I don't know why you keep doing so. Perhaps you feel if you already had a child the journey would be easier for you, perhaps if I already felt my family could be complete it would be easier for me, but I don't. I think best to leave it here!!

Unlucky - I found cycling hard when I was working. Do your work know about your treatment? Hope your sore throat is better soon.

Rebecca - ahh bless you. The tww is hard but keep up being positive, I'm glad you are already thinking this is going to happen, chances are it will! Plus you have lovely frosties if the worst happens so you could have a fet very soon. Not long to wait now!!

Still no af here. Not sure why, it's never late! I did test and it was bfn. Really odd.

 

[Psalm23v6]

Mrs W 11 - hoping you get your AF soon. I got mine yesterday and will be starting stims tonight! Really hoping this is it for all of us.

Rebecca - glad the TWW is flying by for you. Will you test early?

Unlucky - any update from your blood test? I have only ever worked through cycles and it can be incredibly hard. I haven't (and won't) tell my office what is going on. I don't think it is any of their business (yet).

Kat - how did your appointment go?

:wave::wave: to everyone else. Hope you're all OK.

AFM - AF arrived yesterday and so I called at 8am today to try to get an appointment. They didn't want to take me at first and tried to push me to tomorrow, but we work on Sunday here and I just wanted to go without needing to be at work right afterwards. The scan went well - around 8 follicles on the left and 6 on the right. We are starting with 450 iU of Gonal F for 3 days and then back Tuesday to see how it is progressing. That's a very high dose and so the Dr told me to drink lots of water and eat protein (two things I do anyway), so here is hoping I don't get too crazy stimulated.

 

[KatO79]

Sounds good Psalm, so exciting Hoping the next scan looks good as well

So forgot to mention that the hospital called yesterday and moved our appointment from 12:00 to 2:15 so first have gotten home now.

We arrived a bit earlier and hadn't been sitting in the waiting room for about 2 minutes before being called in. Apparently they were ahead of schedule. So they scanned me and found an approx. 30 mm cyst in my left ovary But apparently she wasn't worried because she was sure that the downregulation would get rid of it. She checked my lining and said I'd definitely Oed some days ago (which I knew). She asked if I would prefer taking the Synarela nasal spray 3 times a day or injecting 0.5 ml Suprefact once a day. I was nuts and asked for the injections She then sent us on to another nurse that instructed me on how to get the medicine out of the vial and inject (since there is no pen) and gave me needles for it. We got prescriptions for everything and had to find a phramacy with the Suprefact in store. Went to the closest but they didn't have anymore and she called another, larger one to see if they had any which they did so drove there and got it. I asked about the hormones I'll be taking when stimming and he said they had a number of them but to call maybe 2-3 days before I'm planning on picking them up to be sure so they can order it if need be.

For stimming I'll be on 225 IU of Bemfola. Never heard of it but it will require me to buy a new pen

 

[Mrs W 11]

Psalm - wow that is a high dose, especially with a good antral follicle count, did they say why they are starting you so high? Whats your amh? your afc is great for low amh, my amh is 3 and my afc is about 3-4. Fab news that af came and you are good to go though! I liked gonal f, the pre filled pens are easy to inject. Still waiting for af over here..... It's very odd. Wondering if I didn't ovulate this cycle as there absolutely no sign of her arrival.

 

[Unlucky41]

Psalm so happy that things are moving along for you. I was on a similar dosage for some of my cycles due to low amh.

My hormones are coming up but not quite there yet. The nurse predicts wed ovulation but I am known to slow down later.

Hmm I am even considering taking another role within my company although they will be pretty unhappy if I get pregnant eh?