We have just learnt that our first IVF has failed so we're currently in that big black hole of grief, dissapointment and despair.....I never knew I could cry so much....... I know I need time to let the dust settle and whether we can ever do IVF again as we are self funding is another question....... But is there anyone out there who conceived naturally after IVF?? Did it kick start something or was it just because you actually did start relaxing as the stress was too much before?? Any books that anyone can recommend?? I can't just sit back and do nothing so am busy looking at castor oil packs, royal jelly etc - I need a plan, it's just the way I work I am 42 so not a spring chicken but do believe that my time will come - nothing fertility-wise wrong with me - hubby's swimmers improved big time after a whole lifestyle change - no booze, coffee, junk food and taking suppliments. Many thanks.