Anyone ever have a BFP after a failed IVF??

[Emmi]

We have just learnt that our first IVF has failed so we're currently in that big black hole of grief, dissapointment and despair.....I never knew I could cry so much.......

I know I need time to let the dust settle and whether we can ever do IVF again as we are self funding is another question.......

But is there anyone out there who conceived naturally after IVF?? Did it kick start something or was it just because you actually did start relaxing as the stress was too much before??

Any books that anyone can recommend??

I can't just sit back and do nothing so am busy looking at castor oil packs, royal jelly etc - I need a plan, it's just the way I work

I am 42 so not a spring chicken but do believe that my time will come - nothing fertility-wise wrong with me - hubby's swimmers improved big time after a whole lifestyle change - no booze, coffee, junk food and taking suppliments.

Many thanks.

 

[terripeachy]

I don't know anything about what happens after IVF, but just wanted to say that I'm really sorry, and I hope you find the answers you need. Huge hugs.

 

[Emmi]

Awww - thank you Terri - it's all so hard sometimes.

x

 

[Driving280]

I have heard of people getting pregnant after a failed IVF - two, actually. Kind of similar situation to yours, AMA but nothing else really wrong. If you think about it, even assuming you only have a 5 or 6% chance of getting pregnant per cycle without IVF, that can mean that over 6 months you have a decent chance... What are your clinic's statistics with women over 40? Make sure that you are going to a really good one, especially if you are doing this again. There are some that have 30%+ pregnancy rates and others where it is in the teens, per cycle, but you have probably already checked.

 

[Emmi]

Hi Driving - I am hearing more and more stories about successes after a failed IVF - I just need that bit of hope.

The stats at my clinic were good for my age and I had 16 follies with 14 mature eggs so I am willing my body to keep going at being fertile. Whether we can try IVF again - who knows, we were self funding so we are still recovering for coughing up on this go.

But we are just having to learn to chill and see if we can do things naturally - things happen all the time so who knows.

 

[threebirds]

Sending you a hug Emmi, I know how awful it is.
Despite drs saying that we have very very low chance of preg (we both have fertility probs), we have had 3 natural pregnancies (sadly all mmc) & two failed ivf/icsi cycles. I know that might sound depressing but against the odds Ive been preg twice in 2013 (Im 40). We had a distasterous ivf cycle in May - so bad it got cancelled coz even though I was on the highest dose drugs you can get here I had no response, nothing. Two months later I was preg! What did I do? Lost half a stone & started the Couch to 5k programme to get fit (as well as eating healthily, acupuncture, tcm, herbs etc). So even though this preg sadly came to an end & even tho the odds are against us, we can get preg - so there is hope.
Good luck x

 

[Emmi]

Hi Threebirds - so sorry to hear your history - all sounds very exhausting and very heartbreaking but as you say - you were able to get pregnant.

I lost a stone over the IVF process - healthy eating and just being very focussed. I could do with losing a bit more and ironically - unhappy times make me lose weight quite easily.

I looked into fertility acupuncture and there's no way I could afford that. But I am hoping the changes that I am making will help. I stopped the alcohol once we commenced IVF and I will keep off the booze - maybe the odd glass of vino but I think keeping it out my system can only be a good thing. But more importantly - hubby has said that he will keep to minimum booze, no coffee, 5 a day and suppliments.....I am really hoping that this will give us an extra boost.

Wishing you all good things too

xxx

 

[Garnet]

I know someone who got pregnant at 46 naturally but she went on a very strict organic gluten free diet. She just had her baby. She said she gonna try for another baby again and going on the diet first.

 

[Emmi]

Hi Garnet - thank you for that. It's interesting that some women have turned to a nutritional specialist and given up certain foods and fallen pregnant. I was just reading about a woman who was about to embark on IVF and realised that bread was causing an infection so gave it up and 2 months later - fell pregnant!

 

[threebirds]

Hi Emmi, hi garnet
I also went gluten free around March/April & was preg in Aug. I plan to stat gf.
I am also a vegetarian but did start eating a little fish as chinese dr really wanted me to.
X

 

[Emmi]

Okay - that's interesting!! Time to use Dr Google for something good (it wasn't such a good thing during my IVF...) and see if it's something that I should look at.

x

 

[jen379]

Hi ladies, wondering if i can jump in! i've spent part of today reading about the paleo diet and more than that thinking about how i'm probably sabotaging all my efforts with my crappy diet. i make efforts to eat organic, take good supplements, but then throw it out the window for sugar. i'm so addicted!

at the same time, 100% convinced that improving diet increases all fertility chances, natural or assisted. i once read that when our body gets depleted, the reproductive system is one of the first to give or shut down b/c it's almost like it is nonessential to everyday life. we're told we're pre-menopausal when perhaps it's a result of other vital systems and organs needing more energy/nutrients and then those systems/organs borrow needed energy from the reproductive system. in a crazy way that made sense to me.

i think you guys are def on the right track and i need to get convicted about it everyday. maybe we should start a nutrition thread (if there isn't one already? not sure) and really cheer each other on, share ideas.

thank you ladies for bringing my thoughts together about nutrition.

Emmi, sending you some love!

 

[Emmi]

Hi ladies, wondering if i can jump in! i've spent part of today reading about the paleo diet and more than that thinking about how i'm probably sabotaging all my efforts with my crappy diet. i make efforts to eat organic, take good supplements, but then throw it out the window for sugar. i'm so addicted!

at the same time, 100% convinced that improving diet increases all fertility chances, natural or assisted. i once read that when our body gets depleted, the reproductive system is one of the first to give or shut down b/c it's almost like it is nonessential to everyday life. we're told we're pre-menopausal when perhaps it's a result of other vital systems and organs needing more energy/nutrients and then those systems/organs borrow needed energy from the reproductive system. in a crazy way that made sense to me.

i think you guys are def on the right track and i need to get convicted about it everyday. maybe we should start a nutrition thread (if there isn't one already? not sure) and really cheer each other on, share ideas.

thank you ladies for bringing my thoughts together about nutrition.

Emmi, sending you some love!

Hi Jen,

Thank you Jen

I have just been looking at the paleo diet - looks so good for you! But isn't dairy good for you lining etc - all the calcium?? Crikey - so many messages out there.

Not sure if I can realistically stick to a whole life style eating change but I am trying to eat a mixed diet full of good things.

My castor oil should be arriving soon so will see if that works - it's supposed to be amazing so will give a whirl -

https://www.greenster.com/magazine/castor-oil-packs/

x

 

[jen379]

Hi ladies, wondering if i can jump in! i've spent part of today reading about the paleo diet and more than that thinking about how i'm probably sabotaging all my efforts with my crappy diet. i make efforts to eat organic, take good supplements, but then throw it out the window for sugar. i'm so addicted!

at the same time, 100% convinced that improving diet increases all fertility chances, natural or assisted. i once read that when our body gets depleted, the reproductive system is one of the first to give or shut down b/c it's almost like it is nonessential to everyday life. we're told we're pre-menopausal when perhaps it's a result of other vital systems and organs needing more energy/nutrients and then those systems/organs borrow needed energy from the reproductive system. in a crazy way that made sense to me.

i think you guys are def on the right track and i need to get convicted about it everyday. maybe we should start a nutrition thread (if there isn't one already? not sure) and really cheer each other on, share ideas.

thank you ladies for bringing my thoughts together about nutrition.

Emmi, sending you some love!

Hi Jen,

Thank you Jen

I have just been looking at the paleo diet - looks so good for you! But isn't dairy good for you lining etc - all the calcium?? Crikey - so many messages out there.

Not sure if I can realistically stick to a whole life style eating change but I am trying to eat a mixed diet full of good things.

My castor oil should be arriving soon so will see if that works - it's supposed to be amazing so will give a whirl -

https://www.greenster.com/magazine/castor-oil-packs/

x

Emmi i read somewhere, which i could quote source perhaps from book The Infertility Cure or fertileheart.com, that diary keeps the body in a damp state which isn't good for girls like me with endo. more or less creates a breeding ground. also read that fertility rates in countries that aren't dairy dependent are much higher. yes, calcium is essential to reproductive system but that good sources can be found in plant/vegetables. i do really good w/out milk but cheese is so hard. i only wish i knew whether or not it was actually helping! grrrr...

 

[Emmi]

Hmmm - that's interesting about the dairy!!! I don't have endo etc and apart from a little milk in my tea and the odd bit of cheese - I don't have much dairy.

And with regards to giving up wheat etc for gluten free - I have read so much that startchy foods have their place in trying to conceive.

But that's it - is it helping??? We just don't know!! I have vowed to keep off the booze, caffeine and fizzy drinks. I know that these aren't the greatest things for you so that can only be doing some good......

Also - I can feel myself getting stressed if I am trying to follow something really strict so that's just then having the opposite effect really!!! Sheeesh!!

 

[KatherineA]

Hi Emmi,

so sorry to hear that your first IVF failed. Hopefully you will have another go and things will work out.

I had my first IVF in June this year which resulted in a BFP but sadly MC at 12 week on 2 September. I have just had first AF today and I am certainly going to try naturally in this next cycle for a BFP. I should be having my NHS cycle in the next few months

I have heard of women getting pregnant naturally after failed IVF although I dont think there is any scientific evidence to suggest that IVF makes you more fertile.

Good luck with both the natural method and IVF if you decide to have another go !!!

 

[Emmi]

Hi Katherine - agree, there is no scientific proof but women do get pregnant after failed IVF....I think a lot of it is that a lot of pressure is off after the IVF - I didn't realise how I was so stressed during the process - pretty much like a coiled spring.

Wishing you lots of good wishes too - good luck with it all

 

[jen379]

Hi Emmi,

so sorry to hear that your first IVF failed. Hopefully you will have another go and things will work out.

I had my first IVF in June this year which resulted in a BFP but sadly MC at 12 week on 2 September. I have just had first AF today and I am certainly going to try naturally in this next cycle for a BFP. I should be having my NHS cycle in the next few months

I have heard of women getting pregnant naturally after failed IVF although I dont think there is any scientific evidence to suggest that IVF makes you more fertile.

Good luck with both the natural method and IVF if you decide to have another go !!!

Hi Katherine, I'm so very sorry for your loss. It just doesn't seem fair.

 

[jen379]

Hi Katherine - agree, there is no scientific proof but women do get pregnant after failed IVF....I think a lot of it is that a lot of pressure is off after the IVF - I didn't realise how I was so stressed during the process - pretty much like a coiled spring.

Wishing you lots of good wishes too - good luck with it all

i agree Emmi. the stress and pressure is just too much sometimes, to the point where for me i was not even laughing, or having fun. we did iui for 4 cycles and every time i thought "why am i doing this" because i felt as though it was just so completely unnatural. looking back now, there was no way i was harvesting any type of quality egg.

 

[Emmi]

Hi Katherine - agree, there is no scientific proof but women do get pregnant after failed IVF....I think a lot of it is that a lot of pressure is off after the IVF - I didn't realise how I was so stressed during the process - pretty much like a coiled spring.

Wishing you lots of good wishes too - good luck with it all

i agree Emmi. the stress and pressure is just too much sometimes, to the point where for me i was not even laughing, or having fun. we did iui for 4 cycles and every time i thought "why am i doing this" because i felt as though it was just so completely unnatural. looking back now, there was no way i was harvesting any type of quality egg.

Fortunately for us - the stress of IVF was really only 2 months - we were able to start pretty much straight away after the consultation. I think I felt so let down by it all as my eggs were all mature so I don't know why it didn't work I need to centre myself with hubby at the moment and chill over Christmas and see where life takes us. I am just so exhausted