Anyone LTTTC unexplained infertility?

[StephieB]

Just off topic, Feisty Fidget your jewellery is gorgeous!

I will be buying one of these https://www.etsy.com/listing/103468965/memorial-heart-and-wing-charm-necklace when I get paid next week. Just the thing I was looking for, beautiful to look at and means something to the people who know what it represents

 

[Feisty Fidget]

Thanks stephie that one is my favourite, and I wear it with pride

 

[momwannabe81]

Hi Ladies!

Sizzles, I'm planning to start acupuncture and TCM in the fall. Please keep us posted how is it for you, if you notice any change, improvement and most important if you get pregnant.

Feisty Fidget, sorry to hear about the MC. It's horrible thing to happen after so much struggle to get pregnant. But if it's any consolation, at least you know you can get pregnant. Not like some of us that have never seen positive line.
StehieB is right, 12 rounds of clomid sounds a lot. I was reading that 6 months would be the max.

Having experiences a loss and having to try for 2 years before that, and now we're a year after, I can personally say that they are both terrible and I don't think seeing a BFP and having it snatched away is any consolation. Clomid, IUI and IVF can help to achieve a pregnancy, but it doesn't gaurentee a viable pregnancy. I think its like a never ending vicious cycle this will definitely not go for everyone, but I honestly think I wish I'd never conceived at all than see that BFP, experience the sheer euphoria after 2 years of TTC, only for it to be taken away 2 weeks later

I hope I don't come across as a big cow bag in that message, I don't mean to.

I agree with u. I have never gotten a BFP but wish i would at least know i can get pregnant, it's a love and hate relationship, u wanna be reassured that u can get pregnant but u don't wanna go thru a mc

 

[ZekeyMylo2010]

Thanks for all the replies it in one way a relief to beable to talk to people in same situation I've never had a Bfp either and at the moment in time I don't know if I ever will back To docs next month I want all test again as its being over two years since the last tests so u never know they may have missed something..

 

[MalaMae]

Thanks for all the replies it in one way a relief to beable to talk to people in same situation I've never had a Bfp either and at the moment in time I don't know if I ever will back To docs next month I want all test again as its being over two years since the last tests so u never know they may have missed something..

ZekeyMylo2010, I'm having a break from doctors for about 5 months. It's good to get under doctor. As soon the fall begins, I'm getting someone else, I like to pick another doctor's brain since now I have more knowledge about the whole fertility thing. And who knows, he/she may find the problem.

Sometimes I feel that at least half of us here can write Doctorate in fertility

Good luck! Who knows, maybe by the time you visit the Dr., you'll be prego!

 

[Feisty Fidget]

I personally find it very difficult speaking to our GP as they all seem to have zero knowledge when in comes to fertility - they keep asking me to explain things!

With our FS she seems to get annoyed when I ask technical things or question why she is suggesting X instead of Y. I think they believe we are all hypochondriacs with too much google knowledge

 

[MalaMae]

hahahaha... you are so right!!!
When I asked my FS about "post-coital test" she said it's old fashioned!!! And when I went to the very first FS, he wanted to do laparoscopy first thing, even before doing ultrasound, checking hormones etc. and when I said I prefer leaving invasive procedures as last, he got upset. Of course I cancelled the surgery and never went back there.

All of the FS have one method set and not investing in more tests, then pushing expensive injections and expensive iui, ivf!
That's why I thank the forums and all the ladies sharing their experience and knowledge.

P.S. But I did get the weirdest compliment from my FS: "You have beautiful uterus".

 

[Westminster]

Hi everyone, I'm also LTTTC, it's been over 2years of living like a nun (apart from the shagging bit obviously). I'm also in the unexplained category and the next step is ivf. In two minds about ivf, nervous but hopeful i suppose. I wondered if anyone knows how many people who are diagnosed as "unexplained" then turn out to have an issue with egg quality or DNA of the embryo?
Many thanks, and best wishes to all long termers.

 

[StephieB]

Hi everyone, I'm also LTTTC, it's been over 2years of living like a nun (apart from the shagging bit obviously)

Sorry but that was brilliant.

Wish I could offer you an answer but I often wonder the same thing, think thats a problem with 'unexplained', because nobody can tell you, we come up wtih all sorts of weird and wonderful issues that could be the problem! I think they test for egg quality prior to carrying out IVF (correct me if I'm wrong somebody...) but don't know actual statistics. Sorry, I'm a bit useless really

My new GP is brilliant with all the fertility stuff! She's a bit like a crazy older Aunt, and every time I go in to see her she's amazed by all my diary entries and details I go into. Last time I went to see her, I told her I'd changed my clomid days from 2-6 to 3-7 as they produce more follies, and she was amazed, she didn't know. We sat there and googled it together and she told me I should be a fertility consultant when I'm on maternity leave (love her PMA)

But my old GP was terrible, firstly laughed at me and DH when we made out first 12month appointment because we were still so young (22 and 24) and then told us "you must not be having enough sex, have more sex adn you'll get pregnant" why didn't we think of that sooner?!

 

[Westminster]

Hey StephieB, my GP told us to have more sex in the first instance too. I just looked at her. She didnt ask any relevant questions about cycle length, ovulation etc. Just told us to have more sex. When we eventually got referred to St Mary's, the consultant said that we would be amazed how many people "do everything except actual intercourse". Hilarious. Anyway he reckons having it 2 or 3 times a week should be enough. Clearly not enough for some of us! I'm fairly convinced that my eggs are mouldy because I'm now 36 (was 33 when I began ttc). Just wish they could test egg health before heading off too far down the ivf road.

 

[MalaMae]

With "unexplained" can be anything. StephieB is right, they test for the egg quality when doing IVF.
However if you think you have poor quality, the following is recommended: Maca Root, Royal Jelly (in raw honey), B-Complex, vit. C, and of course the prenatal vit. It needs like 3 months to notice change in you, the egg needs 90 days to develop.
I'm doing this, who knows if it's helping, but as I said earlier (in another post) I haven't got sick at all

 

[cybermum81]

i'm jumping on this too.. also unexplained... frustrated to say the least! Dr said clomid may help it may not.. whilst I tootle off and take the crazy pills! I often wonder why I'm putting myself through all this to just keep seeing BFN! All my tests are fine.
ectopic was caused by scar tissue from appendicitis when i was 19. hormones fine, good levels, tube clear, hubby has supper spem 96 million, and great swimmers! I'm so ready to have a baby with my husband! (first two with ex partner.. no problems fell pregnant after 3 months both times)
rant over... for now

 

[MalaMae]

Hi ladies!
I have a small question off the topic.
I'm charting my BBT and noticed for several months a small spike in temperature and mild cramps on the 11-12 day of the luteal phase. (it's not period symptom at all, and the period would arrive 3-4 days later)
Has anybody noticed similar thing?
Maybe it's just me over analyzing!

 

[cybermum81]

Hi Malamae,
Iv'e only just started BBT, so haven't got a full month to compare it to, but will let you know if I see anything similar! FX

 

[Feisty Fidget]

Malamae, I would guess at two things;

1. Late implantation is occurring, but your lining is either not thick enough to sustain OR your HCG levels are too low causing the lining to shed and a period to begin.

2. The spike could be caused by a hormone imbalance which is 'normal' before your period.

I have had it a few times, but had to stop analysing as was driving me insane and not resulting in a I now do not chart BBT once ovulation is confirmed - saves my sanity

 

[MalaMae]

Feisty Fidget, thanks I am over analyzing!
I have to find some hobby cake: ) to keep my mind off this!
I'm going coocoo

 

[Irish_eyes]

Hi ladies, I hope you don't mind me jumping on the band wagon.

I am 34 (heading 35 this year) and DH is 36 (37 this year) and we have been TTC for over 3.5 years (it's in my ticker). After all the tests we got done we were just simply put into the "unexplained" category. I was never offered Clomid or any other tests other than the usual CD3, CD21 test and a HSG and DH had to do a few SA which were perfect. So straight onto the IVF waiting list we went. I had my AMH done last year which was 10 pmol/L which for some reason they considered normal yet it says differently on the web and then I had it redone just before IVF start and it decreased to 7.6 pmol/L in a space of a year!

I have just done my first IVF cycle and managed only two eggs, both fertilised and transfer at day 3 being only 4 cell which was not great. My OTD is this Thursday but unfortunately AF arrived on Monday. I seriously think they did not give me the right dosage of meds for my AMH level but that is another story.

For now our next step is to take some time out and try naturally again. So I hope you don't mind me joining in with you all. We only get one free go on the NHS in NI and money tight so it will be a while before we can afford a private cycle.

I really hope you all get your BFP really soon. xx

 

[missy123]

I have unexplained secondary infertility
got a bite of the cherry once and never again..ive been ttc for over 5 years but Im positive it will happen

 

[MalaMae]

Hi Irish-eyes,

Sorry to hear the IVF has been unsuccessful. The funny thing with doctors (FS) is that if you have low AMH they say "you won't be a good responder to IVF" and then they say "let's do IVF".
Go figure!

 

[StephieB]

Im becoming more and more disillusioned with the medical profession and their willingness to do something useful.

Every time I go to see my FS they don't usually look at me, I'm in and out in 10 minutes, and I had clomid thrown at me last time, despite that fact that I already ovulate fine and had achieved a pregnancy, it just didn't stick!

Sorry to hear about your IVF irish eyes, fingers crossed you are going to be like one of those couples who we read about in the success stories

Hi Missy, sorry your back here with us, must be even more frustrating when you have living, breathing proof that your uterus has worked properly once!