Anyone LTTTC unexplained infertility?

[missy123]

Im becoming more and more disillusioned with the medical profession and their willingness to do something useful.

Every time I go to see my FS they don't usually look at me, I'm in and out in 10 minutes, and I had clomid thrown at me last time, despite that fact that I already ovulate fine and had achieved a pregnancy, it just didn't stick!

Sorry to hear about your IVF irish eyes, fingers crossed you are going to be like one of those couples who we read about in the success stories

Hi Missy, sorry your back here with us, must be even more frustrating when you have living, breathing proof that your uterus has worked properly once!

its the most frustrating thing ever!!!!! thanks hun xx

 

[Feisty Fidget]

I am all set to see my FS again in October. As soon as she hears we have had another MMC, she wont be interested in helping any-more. She will figure that it isn't needed as we can get pregnant. A thought wont be given to the fact that their is 18 months between pregnancies, or that they all ended at exactly 6 weeks

 

[Rurin]

Hiya - just delurking as I'm at a similar stage to you ladies.

Started TTC in April 2010 - tests in Apr/May 2011 gave us the all clear as far as HSG, ovulation and SA go. Then in June 2011 we managed to get pregnant but found out the baby didn't make it much past 6 weeks when we had our 11 week scan in August. And have been trying ever since with not a whiff of a BFP. We went back to GP and got referred again so we'll see what the specialists will say when we go back in a few weeks.

It's just so weird... I'm 36 so can sympathise with the earlier poster who thinks her eggs might be mouldy (!). Like the rest of you - am totally ready to get off this IF rollercoaster. Here's hoping we'll all get transferred to the parenting ride soon.

 

[popchick75]

I have a question for you ladies who are from the UK....I hope this is an appropriate place to ask!

On several threads I see people talking about getting on a waiting list for IVF. Is that something that your government provides/pays for? Do you have a national healthcare system/insurance? I think it's totally different here in the states. Very very few people (maybe 1-2% of those with medical insurance) have insurance plans that will pay for IVF. It's all done out of pocket. When I had mine done I believe it was around $17,000.

Hope you ladies don't mind me asking

 

[MalaMae]

I am all set to see my FS again in October. As soon as she hears we have had another MMC, she wont be interested in helping any-more. She will figure that it isn't needed as we can get pregnant. A thought wont be given to the fact that their is 18 months between pregnancies, or that they all ended at exactly 6 weeks

That's frustrating. She would either tell you to keep trying naturally or push you to IVF without even analyzing or testing why your both pregnancies ended up at 6 weeks.
Sorry, I'm venting, I'm pissed at doctors and their money making nature (at least here in Toronto).

 

[cybermum81]

I have a question for you ladies who are from the UK....I hope this is an appropriate place to ask!

On several threads I see people talking about getting on a waiting list for IVF. Is that something that your government provides/pays for? Do you have a national healthcare system/insurance? I think it's totally different here in the states. Very very few people (maybe 1-2% of those with medical insurance) have insurance plans that will pay for IVF. It's all done out of pocket. When I had mine done I believe it was around $17,000.

Hope you ladies don't mind me asking

Here in the UK, most areas give a couple 1 got at IVF free, that is if you have a BMI under 30, don't smoke, have no other kids, or any major medical reason why it wouldn't be suitable.
I wont get IVF, I have two kids from my previous relationship but been TTC with my new husband for 26 months.. even though he has no kids we have to pay approx £4,000 (approx $6,200 for one go, egg sharing makes it slightly cheaper as in theory you are giving something back by helping couples who don't have good eggs.
Giving it the rest of this year before we face the IVF situation, I'm trying clomid first, which I just paid the standard NHS prescription cost for about £8 here ($12) for a 6 months supply of clomid.

 

[Cherokee]

I too am in the LTTTC boat...."unexplained infertility"... needs to be explained lol, I need answers!

 

[Feisty Fidget]

I am all set to see my FS again in October. As soon as she hears we have had another MMC, she wont be interested in helping any-more. She will figure that it isn't needed as we can get pregnant. A thought wont be given to the fact that their is 18 months between pregnancies, or that they all ended at exactly 6 weeks

That's frustrating. She would either tell you to keep trying naturally or push you to IVF without even analyzing or testing why your both pregnancies ended up at 6 weeks.
Sorry, I'm venting, I'm pissed at doctors and their money making nature (at least here in Toronto).

Sadly I am no longer eligible for NHS IVF as I have had two losses. I am now classed as a waste of funding as the chances are high that a successful IVF transfer would result in another loss

Our state medical cover will pay for a liver transfer for alcoholics who will probably go back on the bottle, but not for those of us that have multiple losses and need/want IVF

 

[cybermum81]

Fiesty... That sounds totally unfair. Help for drug addicts and drinkers!

 

[AnnetteCali]

Hello ladies...

Glad i found this thread! My DH and I fall under the unexplained infertility category as well. We have been ttc for 2 years... many rounds of iui's.... and 2 failed ivf cycles . I did manage to get pregnant with one of my iui's, but sadly it ended in a MC.

Infertility has been one of the most difficult things I have ever gone through. I am in between my next IVF cycle.. and and hoping we get a bfp on our own.. i'm trying to believe in miracles! lol..

It sure is nice to have a place where I can vent. .Oh.. to add salt to my infertility wound.. my oldest sister who is 39 is pregnant with her 4th child after 2 months of trying! Thank god she told me through text message because i was in tears when i found out.. and green with envy.. i still am!! the jealously has lessened up a bit... although.. it's still there

hoping we all get our bfp's soon!!! xxox

 

[waiting2start]

I have been trying since 2007 got pregnant in 2010 lost at 25 weeks gave up and will start trying again in 2 months

 

[Westminster]

Hi ladies, just dropping online to say hi. Still trying. I try not to login too often as it can make me feel even more sad to focus on this lttc thingy. Feistyfidget and waiting2start I was particularly touched by your stories. of course I'm touched by everyone's story. It just isn't seem fair. There are so many people out there that don't cherish their children and yet those of us who would give anything to have that chance are finding it such a struggle...In the past two years I've given up everything; the occasional cigarette (I don't begrudge that one), coffee, alcohol, I'm sensible about exercise, sleep, nutrition. I spend a fortune on ovulation sticks for my monitor, conception supplements, acupuncture, reflexology...The only thing left to give up is my (stressful) job. But then how will I fund all the fertility stuff?

 

[Sizzles]

Hi ladies, just dropping online to say hi. Still trying. I try not to login too often as it can make me feel even more sad to focus on this lttc thingy. Feistyfidget and waiting2start I was particularly touched by your stories. of course I'm touched by everyone's story. It just isn't seem fair. There are so many people out there that don't cherish their children and yet those of us who would give anything to have that chance are finding it such a struggle...In the past two years I've given up everything; the occasional cigarette (I don't begrudge that one), coffee, alcohol, I'm sensible about exercise, sleep, nutrition. I spend a fortune on ovulation sticks for my monitor, conception supplements, acupuncture, reflexology...The only thing left to give up is my (stressful) job. But then how will I fund all the fertility stuff?

The sacrifices are a bit rubbish aren't they? I wouldn't mind if I was guaranteed a baby at the end, but to think it could all be in vain. What I'm most annoyed about re the change of lifestyle, is that since changing my diet in various ways I now suffer terrible bloating: I used to wake in the morning with a lovely flat tummy and now I go to bed with bloating and seem to wake with a jelly belly as well! It seems a bit of a coincidence that I've made various changes to my diet over the last couple of years (first 6 months I carried on as normal before very gradually trying different things) and now my body has changed - for the worst - and I still don't have a baby!

 

[PiggieFarmer]

We recently got the "unexplained" diagnosis, so I thought I would check in here. We have been trying for about 33 cycles, with no BFP at all. I am about to turn 38, and we were hoping for more than one child, so we can't afford to just wait it out.

The only possible problems we have going are low AMH and not much cervical mucus... but everything else appears to be normal. Very frustrating, as others have echoed here.

The next things on the menu from our RE would be IUI and IVF, but we won't do those. It is somewhat pointless (and expensive) to blindly try treatments without knowing what the actual problem is.

 

[MalaMae]

Hi PiggieFarmer! Everything that you wrote is like describing me. It's very furstrating when you don't know what it is, and the doctors are pushing you towards expensive and somewhat torturing procedures and they can't even give you a guarantee that will work.
Have you done some tests already? Are you taking any supplements?

 

[PiggieFarmer]

Have you done some tests already? Are you taking any supplements?

Plenty of tests... but the bigs ones are the blood tests (AMH, FSH, TSH, T4, others I forget) and HSG. The fibroid removal included having a look at the ovaries, and the polyp removal included looking inside the uterus (with a camera), and again nothing unusual. SA for DH was just fine. Taking fish oil and amoxicillin to possibly help with the CM.

 

[Feisty Fidget]

Piggie, after our first loss my CM dried up completely. I brought conceive plus and some syringes (without the needles obviously) I then used to dispense 3ml into the syringe and then insert it right up to the cervix opening and dispense - et voila, friendly CM for the little spermies. The last time we fell pregnant, I also squirted a bit into a mooncup/softcup after dtd and plugged that in too - kind of icky but worth it.

I have given up on changing my lifestyle too much. If someone told me that doing X, Y or Z would guarantee me a healthy baby, then of course I would. But I refuse to keep sacrificing my sanity and happiness for something that in all likelihood doesn't have a chance of helping

 

[MalaMae]

Have you done some tests already? Are you taking any supplements?

Plenty of tests... but the bigs ones are the blood tests (AMH, FSH, TSH, T4, others I forget) and HSG. The fibroid removal included having a look at the ovaries, and the polyp removal included looking inside the uterus (with a camera), and again nothing unusual. SA for DH was just fine. Taking fish oil and amoxicillin to possibly help with the CM.

Amoxicillin for CM? I never heard of that before. Be careful with that. Amoxicillin is antibiotic, the only think I get from antibiotic is yeast infection. All antibiotics do that.
Don't get me wrong, we are ALL trying here different things just to get BFP, including me (the amount of supplements I'm taking) Are you sure about the amoxicillin? Did a doctor prescribed that?

 

[PiggieFarmer]

Amoxicillin for CM? I never heard of that before. Be careful with that. Amoxicillin is antibiotic, the only think I get from antibiotic is yeast infection. All antibiotics do that.
Don't get me wrong, we are ALL trying here different things just to get BFP, including me (the amount of supplements I'm taking) Are you sure about the amoxicillin? Did a doctor prescribed that?

Yes, it was prescribed. There was some concern that the sperm might not be compatible with the CM, and an antibiotic is supposed to help with that. I am only supposed to take it during ovulation (a few days), so resistance is not a concern. It was also suggested in the Taking Charge book, under a doctor's supervision, of course.

However, being in the "unexplained" category, very little is certain...

 

[MalaMae]

Hi ladies!
Anyone with good news of any kind?