Battle of the Conception Lubricants!

[Megg33k]

*I posted this in my journal, but I thought I'd share it with the whole TTCAL crew! Its interesting and might help someone!*

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I received my Conceive Plus today... and still had some Pre-Seed. So, what has to happen? SCIENCE HAS TO HAPPEN!

I got a clean plastic disk (that you find on the top of CD/DVD spindles and a piece of white paper. Pre-Seed is on the left (as labelled) and Conceive Plus is on the right (as labelled).

I applied a drop of each. The first thing I noticed was that Pre-Seed was easier to apply. I believe its the applicator that makes Pre-Seed easier to work with. I still have the kind that comes in this sort of "applicator."

https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/4752420384_87c339b1bd_b.jpg

They now sell it in a tube with a syringe type applicator... which is probably just as good if not better!

The Conceive Plus came in a tube with no applicator of any sort... I managed to drip it everywhere trying to put a small drop on the disk. It worries me about applying it for its REAL use!

https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4752420402_97144a9af2_b.jpg

So, here they are applied to the disk. After applying them, I tilted the disk forward to see which was more or less "runny"... The Conceive Plus is MUCH more runny... but I don't know if this is better or worse!

https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4751752047_a76f56876d_b.jpg

Then, I mixed in a pH testing solution. The pH's are TOTALLY different.

https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4122/4751752061_3d091b38f6_b.jpg

The bit of bluish color you can see on the left side of the Pre-Seed picture is from accidentally contaminating that bit with the Conceive Plus... I didn't clean off the stirrer well enough between stirrings, apparently. OOPS!

There seems to be a pH of ~6 on the Pre-Seed. Neutral is 7, so its slightly more acidic than water... about the same as urine or saliva (according to some website about fish tanks LOL).

There seems to be a pH of ~7.6 on the Conceive Plus, which is mildly alkaline. I found this:

Semen pH
Normally the pH of semen is alkaline because of the seminal vesicle secretion. An alkaline pH protects the sperm from the acidity of the vaginal fluid. An acidic pH suggests problems with seminal vesicle function. It is usually found in association with a low volume of the ejaculate and the absence of fructose.

So, it would seem that is SHOULD BE alkaline. 6 and 7.6 span the total range of my pH testing fluid. So, the Pre-Seed could be more acidic and the Conceive Plus could be more alkaline, but the color will cease to change at some point, because it can't test for higher or lower. I suddenly wish I'd bought better pH testing fluid!

Regardless, it does make me feel good to know that alkaline is the way to go, and Conceive Plus does seem to win that battle.

Stretch! I'm literally stretching these as far as humanly possible! I think the Conceive Plus stretched a bit better before the pH fluid was in it, but you couldn't see it in a picture without the color. So, we do what we must. I conversely think the Pre-Seed stretched a bit better after the pH fluid was in it.

Here's the Pre-Seed:

https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4752392256_35134e2f5a_b.jpg

Here's the Conceive Plus:

https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/4752392270_5869085b20_b.jpg

So, the tale of the tape...

https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4751850917_de2c269753_b.jpg

If you'd like to see a specific experiment, please just ask for it in detail and I'll do my very best!
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[Mummy2Angel.]

WOW very interesting and thanks for taking the time to let us know megg...i was gona order some pre-seed if no BFP this month but i might think differantly now.....thanks again hun

 

[vickyd]

Megg you amaze me!!!!!! Great experiment!!!!! I agree that conceive plus seems the way to go. Are you sure that it doesnt come in any other application form???? When i was looking through their website so that i could get my friend in the UK to buy for me and bring over, im sure that i saw applicators... Im gonna have a look again and see.

 

[vickyd]

Yup they have pre-filled applicators

 

[Megg33k]

Yeah, their website says it does... but I can't seem to BUY IT in any other form! So, them pretending that it does... not helpful! LOL

 

[vickyd]

Yeah i know, thats why i told my friend when she goes to boots to purchase it to give me a ring telling me what they actually sell. I wasnt even able to order it via amazon...

 

[Megg33k]

The "Where to Buy" screen:

https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4752456761_fa7fb664fd_b.jpg

I figure I'll just find myself some needless syringes or medicine plungers or something. That should do the trick. I should O in 9 days... So, I didn't have time to try and get the other applicator version! Plus, if its like Pre-Seed... They put WAY TOO MUCH into the applicators and then you've lost a ton of product for nothing!

Edit: Boots website says they only sell the 75ml tube... which is what I have!

 

[vickyd]

Good idea with the syringe! easy and clean application..

 

[Megg33k]

Yep, yep! Going to locate some tonight!

 

[heart tree]

What a cool science project! You should win first place in the science fair.

Well I got BFP's 3 times using Pre-seed. I bought Conceive plus and l used it this cycle when I thought I was ov'ing but then didn't end up Ov'ing. Then I used pre-seed and apparently did Ov.

The pre-seed that you posted is no longer available, as you mentioned. I have the new kind with the applicators. I used the applicator from the pre-seed and put the Conceive plus in it. It worked brilliantly.

I was actually really excited to become a Conceive Plus woman, but didn't have time. Even though pre-seed has worked for me, I think I'm switching to Conceive Plus with my next baby. I don't know why, I just think it will work better and faster. And now your experiment has completely won me over!

 

[Megg33k]

Glad to do my part for science! LOL You should have seen the "trying to use blood on an HPT" test I did months ago... THAT was fun! Hurt to type for days! LOL

 

[Vickieh1981]

Megg - you amuse me. Your dedication is brilliant.

I used conceive plus for the first time this month and got my bfp. I used a medicine syringe to squirt it - far too hard to apply otherwise.

 

[Vickieh1981]

Glad to do my part for science! LOL You should have seen the "trying to use blood on an HPT" test I did months ago... THAT was fun! Hurt to type for days! LOL

Link please lol

 

[Megg33k]

Glad to do my part for science! LOL You should have seen the "trying to use blood on an HPT" test I did months ago... THAT was fun! Hurt to type for days! LOL

Link please lol

Unfortunately, its no longer available. It was in one of my old journals I think. The pics are off of Flickr now too... I'll see if I can locate the pics on my hard drive to post though! That'll be just as good!

P.S. It doesn't work!

 

[Megg33k]

Found the important pic!

https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4142/4752581191_7c55966f20_b.jpg

Its blurry... Super blurry! The positive one is hard to see, but that's about as good as my positives ever get because my "urine doesn't fit into 'the norm'"... but it did show a normal faint positive when I used just urine. The others? Wasted! At least they were cheap!

I think I lied when I just labelled them though... The top one was MOSTLY blood... NOT ALL BLOOD. The "ALL BLOOD" one was really gruesome looking and I never posted it.

 

[NGRidley]

megg.....FYI your journal that you started Aug 2009 is still readable.

 

[Megg33k]

Really? Wow! That's almost unfortunate! LOL Either way, I'm sure the picture was gone, and that was the important part anyway. Thanks though! I didn't realize it wasn't totally gone.

 

[NGRidley]

I only say this because i remember you saying that you wish you remembered how you felt in the past.....so in case you want to look back at the earlier time

ok I am done hijacking now LOL

 

[Megg33k]

You're fine! LOL That's totally true! I think I'm at a place now that I'm going to resist finding out how I've felt in the past... I started to look through one... and got to my first BFP (when it was still exciting instead of scary)... and pretty immediately got very depressed. So, avoiding it like the plague now! LOL

 

[dakota]

this is fab thank u so much! ive just started using concive plus as i couldent get any preseed an after reading this thank goodness i got what seems to be the best one!thank you