breastfed babies result in better behaved children?

[LeeBee]

I understand that people feel strongly about breast feeding- and more power to them- but it really doesn't help anyone when you call it "poison" or put down people who choose to use it. I have incredible anxiety over whether I will breastfeed vs. formula feed, and instead of feeling comfortable asking about it, I feel like I'll get jumped on- so I don't say anything. And if that's the reaction you're getting from people, then you're not doing a very good job promoting it. I personally find it to be a bit of a turn off.

Though I do recognize that there are some BF mother's who do promote it in the right way, so I'm certainly not generalizing the BF peeps

But the only person who called it poison was a formula feeder...

I wouldn't be surprised if formula feeders are the only ones on this forum who call it poison. Doesn't actually make any sense

I'm really confused... why would formula feeders call it poison? And was it said on this thread? I saw it quoted, which is where I got it from.

 

[Laura2919]

I understand that people feel strongly about breast feeding- and more power to them- but it really doesn't help anyone when you call it "poison" or put down people who choose to use it. I have incredible anxiety over whether I will breastfeed vs. formula feed, and instead of feeling comfortable asking about it, I feel like I'll get jumped on- so I don't say anything. And if that's the reaction you're getting from people, then you're not doing a very good job promoting it. I personally find it to be a bit of a turn off.

Though I do recognize that there are some BF mother's who do promote it in the right way, so I'm certainly not generalizing the BF peeps

But the only person who called it poison was a formula feeder...

I wouldn't be surprised if formula feeders are the only ones on this forum who call it poison. Doesn't actually make any sense

Seems like your contradicting yourself here a little, you said you dont want this thread to go downhill yet you put a little smiley at the end which means we are a bit silly for saying it, or actually I am a bit silly because I am the only one who has actually said it on this thread I do believe...

I said it was like it being poison and bad for our children not that someone has called it poison, nobody has but some posts on here make it seem this way at times.
I am not pro anything, I fed my children formula as expressing failed miserably for me due to a nurse too involved in her gossiping to remember to pick it up from the ambulance!! I just wish people would understand that formula was the only option for some people..

 

[Cloberella]

I understand that people feel strongly about breast feeding- and more power to them- but it really doesn't help anyone when you call it "poison" or put down people who choose to use it. I have incredible anxiety over whether I will breastfeed vs. formula feed, and instead of feeling comfortable asking about it, I feel like I'll get jumped on- so I don't say anything. And if that's the reaction you're getting from people, then you're not doing a very good job promoting it. I personally find it to be a bit of a turn off.

Though I do recognize that there are some BF mother's who do promote it in the right way, so I'm certainly not generalizing the BF peeps

But the only person who called it poison was a formula feeder...

I wouldn't be surprised if formula feeders are the only ones on this forum who call it poison. Doesn't actually make any sense

I'm really confused... why would formula feeders call it poison? And was it said on this thread? I saw it quoted, which is where I got it from.

Yeah, the person you quoted, Laura2919 is a formula feeder

 

[Laura2919]

I understand that people feel strongly about breast feeding- and more power to them- but it really doesn't help anyone when you call it "poison" or put down people who choose to use it. I have incredible anxiety over whether I will breastfeed vs. formula feed, and instead of feeling comfortable asking about it, I feel like I'll get jumped on- so I don't say anything. And if that's the reaction you're getting from people, then you're not doing a very good job promoting it. I personally find it to be a bit of a turn off.

Though I do recognize that there are some BF mother's who do promote it in the right way, so I'm certainly not generalizing the BF peeps

But the only person who called it poison was a formula feeder...

I wouldn't be surprised if formula feeders are the only ones on this forum who call it poison. Doesn't actually make any sense

I'm really confused... why would formula feeders call it poison? And was it said on this thread? I saw it quoted, which is where I got it from.

Yeah, the person you quoted, Laura2919 is a formula feeder

Yeah I am a formula feeder and Clobrella here actually isnt telling you it right... I said some of the comments on here make it seem like its poison and that we are harming our children..
Sometimes there can be twisters and this is one of those times

 

[LeeBee]

I understand that people feel strongly about breast feeding- and more power to them- but it really doesn't help anyone when you call it "poison" or put down people who choose to use it. I have incredible anxiety over whether I will breastfeed vs. formula feed, and instead of feeling comfortable asking about it, I feel like I'll get jumped on- so I don't say anything. And if that's the reaction you're getting from people, then you're not doing a very good job promoting it. I personally find it to be a bit of a turn off.

Though I do recognize that there are some BF mother's who do promote it in the right way, so I'm certainly not generalizing the BF peeps

But the only person who called it poison was a formula feeder...

I wouldn't be surprised if formula feeders are the only ones on this forum who call it poison. Doesn't actually make any sense

I'm really confused... why would formula feeders call it poison? And was it said on this thread? I saw it quoted, which is where I got it from.

Yeah, the person you quoted, Laura2919 is a formula feeder

Yeah I am a formula feeder and Clobrella here actually isnt telling you it right... I said some of the comments on here make it seem like its poison and that we are harming our children..
Sometimes there can be twisters and this is one of those times

Ohhh... well I agree with you on that!

 

[Laura2919]

I understand that people feel strongly about breast feeding- and more power to them- but it really doesn't help anyone when you call it "poison" or put down people who choose to use it. I have incredible anxiety over whether I will breastfeed vs. formula feed, and instead of feeling comfortable asking about it, I feel like I'll get jumped on- so I don't say anything. And if that's the reaction you're getting from people, then you're not doing a very good job promoting it. I personally find it to be a bit of a turn off.

Though I do recognize that there are some BF mother's who do promote it in the right way, so I'm certainly not generalizing the BF peeps

But the only person who called it poison was a formula feeder...

I wouldn't be surprised if formula feeders are the only ones on this forum who call it poison. Doesn't actually make any sense

I'm really confused... why would formula feeders call it poison? And was it said on this thread? I saw it quoted, which is where I got it from.

Yeah, the person you quoted, Laura2919 is a formula feeder

Yeah I am a formula feeder and Clobrella here actually isnt telling you it right... I said some of the comments on here make it seem like its poison and that we are harming our children..
Sometimes there can be twisters and this is one of those times

Ohhh... well I agree with you on that!

It seems that everyone is focusing on the word poison and not the words before and after.
I still stand by what I said because some posts can seem that way.

 

[moomin_troll]

i agree some people act like we are really harming our children by ff like it is poison, and that we are terrible mothers for doing so.

i will never understand why people cant just accept that mothers will feed their baby how they want or have to and thats that

 

[Laura2919]

i agree some people act like we are really harming our children by ff like it is poison, and that we are terrible mothers for doing so.

i will never understand why people cant just accept that mothers will feed their baby how they want or have to and thats that

Exactly! Not everyone can or even wants to breastfeed. There is only two choices, breastmilk and formula so one has got to do hasnt it.

 

[moomin_troll]

i agree some people act like we are really harming our children by ff like it is poison, and that we are terrible mothers for doing so.

i will never understand why people cant just accept that mothers will feed their baby how they want or have to and thats that

Exactly! Not everyone can or even wants to breastfeed. There is only two choices, breastmilk and formula so one has got to do hasnt it.

its always got on my nerves when people who bf find out i ff at the time and would think it was there place to tell me how good bf was and that how important it was for zane.......

erm thanks for the lesson but im a adult so i no exactly what bf can do and would of loved to be able to have done it. i dont need to be told how hard they had it as they werent in my shoes.

i also find it strange when strangers ask how ur going to feed ur baby (im not on about here)

 

[Midnight_Fairy]

i agree some people act like we are really harming our children by ff like it is poison, and that we are terrible mothers for doing so.

i will never understand why people cant just accept that mothers will feed their baby how they want or have to and thats that

Exactly! Not everyone can or even wants to breastfeed. There is only two choices, breastmilk and formula so one has got to do hasnt it.

I totally agree! Or when I said I FF R, and people say "oh I am sorry" err why are you sorry, I didnt even try and BF lol I dont feel like any less of a parent for it, I dont feel like I did one of my children injustice, In fact its not even relevant in the scheme of things really.

M is the one riddled with health problems and he was BF lol.

I just dont think it matters what people do as long as the baby gets fed properly.

 

[LeeBee]

i agree some people act like we are really harming our children by ff like it is poison, and that we are terrible mothers for doing so.

i will never understand why people cant just accept that mothers will feed their baby how they want or have to and thats that

Exactly! Not everyone can or even wants to breastfeed. There is only two choices, breastmilk and formula so one has got to do hasnt it.

its always got on my nerves when people who bf find out i ff at the time and would think it was there place to tell me how good bf was and that how important it was for zane.......

erm thanks for the lesson but im a adult so i no exactly what bf can do and would of loved to be able to have done it. i dont need to be told how hard they had it as they werent in my shoes.

i also find it strange when strangers ask how ur going to feed ur baby (im not on about here)[/QUOTE]

Totally had someone do this to me.... I was walking around a craft fair, and some hillbilly old man came up to me and said, "Is that there baby getting the breast milk, or is he getting that other stuff?"

 

[Kalah]

I understand that people feel strongly about breast feeding- and more power to them- but it really doesn't help anyone when you call it "poison" or put down people who choose to use it. I have incredible anxiety over whether I will breastfeed vs. formula feed, and instead of feeling comfortable asking about it, I feel like I'll get jumped on- so I don't say anything. And if that's the reaction you're getting from people, then you're not doing a very good job promoting it. I personally find it to be a bit of a turn off.

Though I do recognize that there are some BF mother's who do promote it in the right way, so I'm certainly not generalizing the BF peeps

But the only person who called it poison was a formula feeder...

I wouldn't be surprised if formula feeders are the only ones on this forum who call it poison. Doesn't actually make any sense

Seems like your contradicting yourself here a little, you said you dont want this thread to go downhill yet you put a little smiley at the end which means we are a bit silly for saying it, or actually I am a bit silly because I am the only one who has actually said it on this thread I do believe...

I said it was like it being poison and bad for our children not that someone has called it poison, nobody has but some posts on here make it seem this way at times.
I am not pro anything, I fed my children formula as expressing failed miserably for me due to a nurse too involved in her gossiping to remember to pick it up from the ambulance!! I just wish people would understand that formula was the only option for some people..

I meant it a joking way, sorry for causing such a misunderstanding though. I said that because the only people I've ever seen on this forum (on this thread and many other threads) who call it poison are people who FF. They usually say it in a context of "It's not like we're feeding them poison" then someone who hasn't read the whole thread sees that and assumes some BFer has called it poison and gets really defensive and angry, basically words being put into mouths then things get all messy!
So the joke was just that the only ones who actually compare it to poison are people who use it.

ETA: Which is why it's then funny or when someone who hasn't read the whole thread assumes that some self-richus BFer has been saying formula is poison and goes off on a rampage. In this case LeeBee was the one who seemed to think it was a BFer calling it poison, at least that's what it looked like from her post. She didn't go off on a rampage though

 

[moomin_troll]

i agree some people act like we are really harming our children by ff like it is poison, and that we are terrible mothers for doing so.

i will never understand why people cant just accept that mothers will feed their baby how they want or have to and thats that

Exactly! Not everyone can or even wants to breastfeed. There is only two choices, breastmilk and formula so one has got to do hasnt it.

its always got on my nerves when people who bf find out i ff at the time and would think it was there place to tell me how good bf was and that how important it was for zane.......

erm thanks for the lesson but im a adult so i no exactly what bf can do and would of loved to be able to have done it. i dont need to be told how hard they had it as they werent in my shoes.

i also find it strange when strangers ask how ur going to feed ur baby (im not on about here)[/QUOTE]

Totally had someone do this to me.... I was walking around a craft fair, and some hillbilly old man came up to me and said, "Is that there baby getting the breast milk, or is he getting that other stuff?"

some people are just freaks hahaha

 

[summer rain]

I have to agree with Kalah here. Also why are people getting offended when BF mums say they would rather their baby have donor BM or a wet nurse than formula? If that is their personal preference; that is their prerogative; although giving donor milk or having a wet nurse seems odd in this society it is preferred in most other societies and even the WHO does advise if possible its better for a BF baby who needs supplements to have expressed milk from their own mum first; then wet nursing/donor milk, then formula if these are not available.

I also hate how the tiny minority of BF mums are blamed for women deciding not to BF from birth; 'oh I read so many militant things from BF mums that I FF from birth' sorry but that is entirely your decision, it takes an extremely weak personality to allow things read online (and it usually is online; I've never really come across these aggressive BFers in real life) to influence major decisions on how to raise your children. It almost seems like these women are not BF to prove some kind of point as to how horrible BFers are; its your child you may be disadvantaged by this at the end of the day. You get hot-headed people with a passion for any topic online I don't take them as representative of an entire group of people.

 

[LeeBee]

I have to agree with Kalah here. Also why are people getting offended when BF mums say they would rather their baby have donor BM or a wet nurse than formula? If that is their personal preference; that is their prerogative; although giving donor milk or having a wet nurse seems odd in this society it is preferred in most other societies and even the WHO does advise if possible its better for a BF baby who needs supplements to have expressed milk from their own mum first; then wet nursing/donor milk, then formula if these are not available.

I also hate how the tiny minority of BF mums are blamed for women deciding not to BF from birth; 'oh I read so many militant things from BF mums that I FF from birth' sorry but that is entirely your decision, it takes an extremely weak personality to allow things read online (and it usually is online; I've never really come across these aggressive BFers in real life) to influence major decisions on how to raise your children. It almost seems like these women are not BF to prove some kind of point as to how horrible BFers are; its your child you may be disadvantaged by this at the end of the day. You get hot-headed people with a passion for any topic online I don't take them as representative of an entire group of people.

Hmm... I feel like this was aimed at me, so I'll respond.

I was simply proving a point by my post (which a few people have proven further, thank you). When you get an aggressive BF who states that they are so passionate about BF and want to influence others to do the same, and that person goes about it in the way a lot of woman on here have, then there is an issue there. People are on this forum for support- something a lot of woman don't have in "real life". I don't have other mothers to bounce my ideas and concerns off of- that's why I'm here.

Am I not going to breast feed my child to get back at you? That's laughable. Might a lack of information affect my final decision? It's possible. Because- and I believe I'm quoting a BF here- "lack of information is the number one reason woman don't breastfeed". And I completely agree.

Let me tell you what I'm looking for. When I state that I have concerns about X, I want a nice little BF mommy to come along and say, "hey, I had that concern too. Here's my thoughts. Here's what I did."

Maybe this only makes sense to me And I realize it's a waste of breath (or finger use), but it is so FRUSTRATING!

 

[Kalah]

I have to agree with Kalah here. Also why are people getting offended when BF mums say they would rather their baby have donor BM or a wet nurse than formula? If that is their personal preference; that is their prerogative; although giving donor milk or having a wet nurse seems odd in this society it is preferred in most other societies and even the WHO does advise if possible its better for a BF baby who needs supplements to have expressed milk from their own mum first; then wet nursing/donor milk, then formula if these are not available.

I also hate how the tiny minority of BF mums are blamed for women deciding not to BF from birth; 'oh I read so many militant things from BF mums that I FF from birth' sorry but that is entirely your decision, it takes an extremely weak personality to allow things read online (and it usually is online; I've never really come across these aggressive BFers in real life) to influence major decisions on how to raise your children. It almost seems like these women are not BF to prove some kind of point as to how horrible BFers are; its your child you may be disadvantaged by this at the end of the day. You get hot-headed people with a passion for any topic online I don't take them as representative of an entire group of people.

Hmm... I feel like this was aimed at me, so I'll respond.

I was simply proving a point by my post (which a few people have proven further, thank you). When you get an aggressive BF who states that they are so passionate about BF and want to influence others to do the same, and that person goes about it in the way a lot of woman on here have, then there is an issue there. People are on this forum for support- something a lot of woman don't have in "real life". I don't have other mothers to bounce my ideas and concerns off of- that's why I'm here.

Am I not going to breast feed my child to get back at you? That's laughable. Might a lack of information affect my final decision? It's possible. Because- and I believe I'm quoting a BF here- "lack of information is the number one reason woman don't breastfeed". And I completely agree.

Let me tell you what I'm looking for. When I state that I have concerns about X, I want a nice little BF mommy to come along and say, "hey, I had that concern too. Here's my thoughts. Here's what I did."

Maybe this only makes sense to me And I realize it's a waste of breath (or finger use), but it is so FRUSTRATING!

I can give you advice like that, I'm even little too!

 

[LeeBee]

I have to agree with Kalah here. Also why are people getting offended when BF mums say they would rather their baby have donor BM or a wet nurse than formula? If that is their personal preference; that is their prerogative; although giving donor milk or having a wet nurse seems odd in this society it is preferred in most other societies and even the WHO does advise if possible its better for a BF baby who needs supplements to have expressed milk from their own mum first; then wet nursing/donor milk, then formula if these are not available.

I also hate how the tiny minority of BF mums are blamed for women deciding not to BF from birth; 'oh I read so many militant things from BF mums that I FF from birth' sorry but that is entirely your decision, it takes an extremely weak personality to allow things read online (and it usually is online; I've never really come across these aggressive BFers in real life) to influence major decisions on how to raise your children. It almost seems like these women are not BF to prove some kind of point as to how horrible BFers are; its your child you may be disadvantaged by this at the end of the day. You get hot-headed people with a passion for any topic online I don't take them as representative of an entire group of people.

Hmm... I feel like this was aimed at me, so I'll respond.

I was simply proving a point by my post (which a few people have proven further, thank you). When you get an aggressive BF who states that they are so passionate about BF and want to influence others to do the same, and that person goes about it in the way a lot of woman on here have, then there is an issue there. People are on this forum for support- something a lot of woman don't have in "real life". I don't have other mothers to bounce my ideas and concerns off of- that's why I'm here.

Am I not going to breast feed my child to get back at you? That's laughable. Might a lack of information affect my final decision? It's possible. Because- and I believe I'm quoting a BF here- "lack of information is the number one reason woman don't breastfeed". And I completely agree.

Let me tell you what I'm looking for. When I state that I have concerns about X, I want a nice little BF mommy to come along and say, "hey, I had that concern too. Here's my thoughts. Here's what I did."

Maybe this only makes sense to me And I realize it's a waste of breath (or finger use), but it is so FRUSTRATING!

I can give you advice like that, I'm even little too!

LOL...

 

[Kalah]

I have to agree with Kalah here. Also why are people getting offended when BF mums say they would rather their baby have donor BM or a wet nurse than formula? If that is their personal preference; that is their prerogative; although giving donor milk or having a wet nurse seems odd in this society it is preferred in most other societies and even the WHO does advise if possible its better for a BF baby who needs supplements to have expressed milk from their own mum first; then wet nursing/donor milk, then formula if these are not available.

I also hate how the tiny minority of BF mums are blamed for women deciding not to BF from birth; 'oh I read so many militant things from BF mums that I FF from birth' sorry but that is entirely your decision, it takes an extremely weak personality to allow things read online (and it usually is online; I've never really come across these aggressive BFers in real life) to influence major decisions on how to raise your children. It almost seems like these women are not BF to prove some kind of point as to how horrible BFers are; its your child you may be disadvantaged by this at the end of the day. You get hot-headed people with a passion for any topic online I don't take them as representative of an entire group of people.

Hmm... I feel like this was aimed at me, so I'll respond.

I was simply proving a point by my post (which a few people have proven further, thank you). When you get an aggressive BF who states that they are so passionate about BF and want to influence others to do the same, and that person goes about it in the way a lot of woman on here have, then there is an issue there. People are on this forum for support- something a lot of woman don't have in "real life". I don't have other mothers to bounce my ideas and concerns off of- that's why I'm here.

Am I not going to breast feed my child to get back at you? That's laughable. Might a lack of information affect my final decision? It's possible. Because- and I believe I'm quoting a BF here- "lack of information is the number one reason woman don't breastfeed". And I completely agree.

Let me tell you what I'm looking for. When I state that I have concerns about X, I want a nice little BF mommy to come along and say, "hey, I had that concern too. Here's my thoughts. Here's what I did."

Maybe this only makes sense to me And I realize it's a waste of breath (or finger use), but it is so FRUSTRATING!

I can give you advice like that, I'm even little too!

LOL...

You can PM me if you ever want to ask anything, I promise I won't be mean or pushy I went through some of the usual problems like being engorged, trying to figure out a hand pump, trying unsuccessfully to switch to formula (little bug is stubborn to change!), holes in nipples, co-sleeping/quitting co-sleeping!

 

[Tiff]

I definitely feel that some people take the sentment that it takes a village to raise a child a bit far. I had loads of strangers come up to me wanting to know if I was BF.

I would never do that, so I don't understand the people that do? I was at the time, and they nodded to themselves... it just really bugged me.

 

[Kalah]

I definitely feel that some people take the sentment that it takes a village to raise a child a bit far. I had loads of strangers come up to me wanting to know if I was BF.

I would never do that, so I don't understand the people that do? I was at the time, and they nodded to themselves... it just really bugged me.

I know what you mean! I had an old woman ask "breast or bottle" I said breast and got all happy. I though my god if I had chosen formula she would have just made me feel like crap! She then proceeded to give us the advice: "Back when I had my babies I just put them in the pram at the end of the garden for 3 days to cry, then bring them in and they never cry again!"