Can i take him to Paris??

[sweetsammi]

I want to take Oliver to Disney land, Paris next month, just for 4days. I wondered if anyone new if I need his dad's consent to do this? He is on the birth certificate. Also if i do need his consent how do i go about getting this, is there a form or something he needs to fill out and send somewhere or is it just a written letter which i keep? :s Every website is telling me different. Ive rung citizens advice and the child law centre and been told different. I have been told as i am the reseident parent i can take Oliver away for up to a month without permission. But someone else told me unless ive been given a residency order from court, which i havent, i cant take him abroad without dads consent! helllp! thankyou!

 

[angels330]

hi there, ive been reading around and 9 times out of ten the same thing keeps popping up - as long the dad doesnt have peticular times for visiting (i.e you awnt to take him on holiday when it is his time) you can take him away without permission for up to 28 days. hope it helps!

 

[dreams]

yup, you can for 4 weeks but you'll need permission for longer. I remember having to do this for a law assignment last year lol

 

[sweetsammi]

yup, you can for 4 weeks but you'll need permission for longer. I remember having to do this for a law assignment last year lol

Thankyou. Does that apply even if there is no residency order? I have just read that if the father has parental responsibilty for the child I need his consent unlsess I have a residency order. I'm asuming he does have parental responsibilty because hes on the birth certificate. x

 

[nikky0907]

I think you need him to sign the passport or something,right?
Both parents need to sign it and pick it up.

 

[Serene123]

Does he have a set time to see Oliver? Set by the court? Or are you on a friendly personally arrange thing? My dad got no say in when/where I went, but then he never saw me anyway. He is on my birth certificate as my dad, I have his last name, and my mum and dad were married, but he never got a say and I didn't need him to sign a passport or anything.. I'm pretty sure you can take him away..

 

[sweetsammi]

I think you need him to sign the passport or something,right?
Both parents need to sign it and pick it up.

I already have a passport for him, his dad never needed to sign it, so thats all sorted.x

 

[sweetsammi]

Does he have a set time to see Oliver? Set by the court? Or are you on a friendly personally arrange thing? My dad got no say in when/where I went, but then he never saw me anyway. He is on my birth certificate as my dad, I have his last name, and my mum and dad were married, but he never got a say and I didn't need him to sign a passport or anything.. I'm pretty sure you can take him away..

He is on the birth cirtificate and has his surname aswell but we do not have any set times set by court for access. He only sees Oliver when he has nothing better to do usually. We never married. Just wish i could get one answer ive rung so many different authories who all told me different! lol x

 

[missjess]

The way it works in here is if you take your child abroad, you need a letter from the other parent saying you agree you child is taken abroad with his mom, on (the dates) for (purpose). signed and with a contact number to reach.

 

[sweetsammi]

Well I have the answer to my question and I think it will be useful to single mums/dads to be aware of this as not many parents are aware of this. My brother-in-law is a solicitor. He has provided me with the following information with regards to taking a child abroad for a holiday when seperated from the other parent:

* A single parent cannot take a child abroad without consent of the other person who has parental responsibility for the child. Parental responsibility is the right you have to make important decisions in your child's life such as religion, education and whether they are able to go out of the country. Mothers automatically gain parental responsibility as do married fathers. Unmarried fathers only have parental responsibilites if there name is on the childs birth cerificate after 1st December 2003, or if they have gained it through court order.

*You can however take your child abroad for up to 4weeks without consent of the other person with parental responsibility if you have been given a residency order from court.

*You have the right to take the other parent to court to grant permission to take the child on holiday if the other parent refuses permission.

So there it is...annoys me though as Olivers dad swans in when the hell he likes, does what he likes, he doesnt know anything about Oli...how the hell can he know whats best for him and be allowed to make important decisions like that! Pfft. Hate him having that power.

x

 

[lauren-kate]

I'm confused by this. I don't know who would actually enforce it. I've taken Ryan away to Cyprus for 2 weeks (actually turned into 3 weeks due to airline going bust while we were there) but no-one asked anything about it at any point. Ryan has both our surnames too, so surely they'd have noticed that we had different surnames? Unless it's just if the child has a completely different surname? Hm, not sure, maybe someone else knows more?

On another note though, Ewan would be completely stupid to try to refuse consent. It would just get taken to court (wasting time and money) when we all know that they'll see that he doesn't see Oli anyway and grant the consent. Hope you can get it sorted. x

 

[sweetsammi]

Cheers Lauren. Yep i know its all aload of rubbish i dont understand y we have this law if noone actually knows about it or uses it! And likeyou say, who would actually enforce it?! Im really confused too. Another friend whos a barrister told me he didnt know what the law was because its not really 'in the books' he said usually its just all sorted in court. THis confused me a whole lot more and now i have no idea what to do. Im being told one thing then another! If Ewan refuses consent i wnt have a choice but to take him court i guess. x

 

[xarlenex]

I'm just back from Paris with Kyle and I didnt need any sort of permission from his father.

Ps Its fantastic!! Oliver will LOVE it!!