Catholic church and IUI/IVF

[Paige.Br]

Taking the spiritual aspect of life, IUI, IVF and any further fertility treatments could be immoral to the Catholic beliefs. But, I have thought that desiring to have a child could never be sin, right? It is just a matter of how strong your faith is. Constantly pray for it, and I do believe HE will give us exemptions and considerations.

 

[lynne192]

well i agree hun i say that about alot of things i guesss if we get ill like another member says then people who say the stuff about ivf and iui then should not seek treatment but let god work? i think sometimes its all very negative but what can you do ah? i will be having my treatment because my partner deserves to have a child of his own.

 

[sarahincanada]

god didnt write the bible....it is a book of interpretations written by many different people over many different years.

god also didnt write that ridiculous text you read on the internet.

so we dont really know what god thinks of fertility treatments!

all I know is that my god will approve of anything I chose to do to create a life, as it comes from the love of 2 people who live their lives in a way he would approve of.

 

[Fallen Ambers]

god didnt write the bible....it is a book of interpretations written by many different people over many different years.

god also didnt write that ridiculous text you read on the internet.

so we dont really know what god thinks of fertility treatments!

all I know is that my god will approve of anything I chose to do to create a life, as it comes from the love of 2 people who live their lives in a way he would approve of.

Well said Sarah!!

 

[Springy]

God didnt write the bible....it is a book of interpretations written by many different people over many different years.

God also didnt write that ridiculous text you read on the internet.

So we dont really know what god thinks of fertility treatments!

All i know is that my god will approve of anything i chose to do to create a life, as it comes from the love of 2 people who live their lives in a way he would approve of.

amen!!!!

 

[bebehope]

Every woman in this world has the right to become a mother no matter what!
We are trying, we are hoping, we are sacrificing,we are praying and we put our shelves under stress, madications,surgeries,tests after tests for only one reason...to bring LIFE!!
Is this a sin?? Then happy to be a sinner!

 

[Smurfette]

Hi,

I recently had a chat with our priest about something completely different and mentioned to him that our son was conceived through IUI and he immediately told me 'You know the church doesn't approve of IUI'. He then asked me what IUI was?! My feeling is:

A. The church cannot possibly approve or disapprove of something they do not understand.

B. I refuse to be judged by a man/organisation of men who have never been in a relationship or wanted a child.

C. Apparently the reason for them disapproving are because it takes the act of sex out of creating life and the extra eggs aren't used. If that's the case then every woman who ovulates and then loses an unfertilised egg each months through her period is a sinner and if the act of creating life without sex is a sin then why did God choose this method of creation for his son?

The way I look at it is that the God that I believe in loves us. I prayed for my son and I got pregnant through IUI. If He disapproved it wouldn't have happened.

As someone else on here said, the Bible is only an interpretation. Don't let the blinkered and unrealistic views of a small minority take away your hope.

Sending lots of
xxxx

 

[lynne192]

oh my lol what a thing to say why condemn it then ask what it is lol sorry that actually made me laugh, i agree i just worried about it after seeing what i did and reading what i did, but now i think i always had my own views so why change them now? plus i am trainning to work in fertility department so i guess i can't really be too with the catholics on this lol i guess i just had a god freeing moment

 

[Flake-y]

Oh don't feel guilty in any way. Its not a sin at all in my eyes, IVF/IUI is the best thing ever, it brings happiness to so many couples & families, which is don't see as being a bad thing!

As for the catholic church saying that its wasting the extrs eggs, I hate to think what they'd say to all the eggs 'wasted' during the years we were TTC without success! Women are born with thousands of eggs, so they expect us to use them all!!!

As for the embryos, I have 2 frozen ones which I intend to use, I just don't like the idea of them being destroyed. That's just my personal opinion though. But an embryo is only a ball of cells, no heart, no heartbeat, no brain. So there's really no harm in destroying spare ones, or donating them for research. I think its just a personal decision.

I'm a protestant, & even if it was against my church, I'd still have done it, I don't think its a sin in any way.

Lots & lota of luck for you for your IUI!!!

 

[Want2bMum]

oh my lol what a thing to say why condemn it then ask what it is lol sorry that actually made me laugh, i agree i just worried about it after seeing what i did and reading what i did, but now i think i always had my own views so why change them now? plus i am trainning to work in fertility department so i guess i can't really be too with the catholics on this lol i guess i just had a god freeing moment

hi hun,

sorry slightly out of subject

are you training as a nurse or clinical staff at the fertility department? i hope i'll soon be in the same field and wanted to share some experience... well, we already share our journey for a baby here in bb

never mind what catholics say hun... if they are priests or very strict they will say that fertility treatment is not acceptable under any circumstances, there is no room for interpretation, nobody can make it's own rules and bladibla...

other christian people may try to find explanations and a meaning and go around the so called rules...

i think that spirituality goes beyond, everybody has its own and they must be free to believe and accept rules or not as far as there is love...

....and whoever is on this website has love to spare, this journey is difficult most of the times and for us to go through this, we must really love our desired wish babies!!

good luck girls... and i hope that your iui or ivf or clomid or anything else will bring you the joy you want ... or the double of it .... or the triple


and by the way... i still think that priests and the pope must stop any health treatment they are undergoing as this is against the rules

 

[lynne192]

hey there hun i am training to be a nurse but i really want to be a doctor so we'll see my partners family have alot of doctors in it so... hopefully.... what about yourself?

 

[Imaan]

Hey hun,

I am not a Catholic, but I am just wondering why it is considered a sin. Do you know? it is a means to having children and God has provided that means so I can't understand why it is a sin.

 

[sarahincanada]

Hey hun,

I am not a Catholic, but I am just wondering why it is considered a sin. Do you know? it is a means to having children and God has provided that means so I can't understand why it is a sin.

I think its because it 'interferes' with nature. they probably only want conception to happen from sex with a man and a women, not in a clinic. the catholic churches views on things infuriates me.

 

[Imaan]

Hey hun,

I am not a Catholic, but I am just wondering why it is considered a sin. Do you know? it is a means to having children and God has provided that means so I can't understand why it is a sin.

I think its because it 'interferes' with nature. they probably only want conception to happen from sex with a man and a women, not in a clinic. the catholic churches views on things infuriates me.

Hi Sarah,

Hmmm. See I do have a faith but in my religion we basically believe that God created the means to make these things possible and as long as it's the husband's and wive's sperm/eggs that are used, we are allowed to go ahead with it. It is a similar notion to when we are sick, we can treat it with medicine. God has created us and made possible many things, e.g. IUI, IVF, many advances in medicine etc. and ultimately what harm is using those to stay alive, healthy, concieve a child? at the end of the day, nothing happends without God's will so if it is not meant to be, it won't. I don't want to dictate to anyone about what they should or shouldn't do but this is honestly the way I see things. I think it is harmless.

 

[sarahincanada]

god didnt write the bible....it is a book of interpretations written by many different people over many different years.

god also didnt write that ridiculous text you read on the internet.

so we dont really know what god thinks of fertility treatments!

all I know is that my god will approve of anything I chose to do to create a life, as it comes from the love of 2 people who live their lives in a way he would approve of.

Imaan above are my feelings on it, so I agree with you. the catholic church has very set views on a lot of things and has never updated their beliefs. I think the original poster of this thread has made up her mind not to be bothered by their rules

 

[Deeni]

I haven't read all the posts but wanted to add my 2 cents. I was also raised Catholic, went to 22 years of Catholic school. I had my son via IVF a few months ago and I can't even bring myself to have him baptized (which is unheard of in my family). I feel like Catholicism doesn't recognize my son and it has brought me very far away from the Church. I have 4 frozen embryos and I do feel guilty that we may not use them. I think this is my Catholic guilt kicking in. But I cannot look at my son and not feel in my heart that the Church is completely wrong on this issue. And also a lot of issues (birth control, gay marriage).

 

[lynne192]

i have always been a women of science

 

[Fallen Ambers]

I haven't read all the posts but wanted to add my 2 cents. I was also raised Catholic, went to 22 years of Catholic school. I had my son via IVF a few months ago and I can't even bring myself to have him baptized (which is unheard of in my family). I feel like Catholicism doesn't recognize my son and it has brought me very far away from the Church. I have 4 frozen embryos and I do feel guilty that we may not use them. I think this is my Catholic guilt kicking in. But I cannot look at my son and not feel in my heart that the Church is completely wrong on this issue. And also a lot of issues (birth control, gay marriage).

Deeni~ I'm so sorry you feel that way If I would be in a similar situation as you, I would go ahead and have my little one baptized. Let it be between you and God. God is a Loving God and your little boy is a Child of God.
Follow your heart

 

[Ttcne]

I have had a lot of the same feelings. I was raised Catholic and that Catholic guilt never seems to go away. We tried conceiving will the help of Naprotechnology but my husbands counts are far too low for their help. We only did the Catholic way because I was not really ready to resort to IVF yet. I don't think it is a sin but I know there are a lot of people who do. I think the Catholic church needs to get with the times and share the views of those who follow the religion.

 

[cooch]

Hi Lynne, we actually went down the Catholic fertility care route- all it is is the Billings method. The Billings method is no use if you have hormonal imbalances only if you have text book regular fertility levels. However we are now trying Napro Technology, which is church linked and has better success than IVF. We are traveling over to Dublin for our first appointment on Tuesday. I hate putting stuff online about it as it sounds as though we have had success when we are just starting it and also as though I'm a marketing rep for the company, lol. It is worth looking into though. Having said allll that, we are catholic and if it comes down to it we will try everything!!!!