Cheers to BFPs in 2-0-1-6!

[Jezika]

Ooh, I think I forgot to thank you ladies for the kind words last week re: my CP. Honestly, you guys are the best

 

[Angel5000]

how are you doing Jezika?

 

[Jezika]

I'm doing surprisingly okay, thanks Angel! I think the hormones really knocked my emotions out of whack, but within about four days I felt right as rain emotionally. Now I'm just wondering what's going on with my ovulation... my OPKs are getting darker sooooo slowly, like I wonder if I'm making it up, but are definitely negative and I have a weird temp increase starting from much earlier on than I would expect. It's like my OPKs say I'm not going to ovulate on CD14 like last cycle but my temps and EWCM seem to say I already ovulated? Mind you, FF hasn't given me CHs yet so I shouldn't jump the gun.

 

[mrs unicorn]

Jezika, thank for your kind words. I'm so sorry about your cp. Nature can definitely be very cruel at times. Like you say though, it's amazing to have all this support here. I don't know what I'd do without it!

Temps are confusing sometimes aren't they. Strange that FF hasn't given you ch yet as you have a big dip then several increases. I guess the next few days will tell (hopefully). My temps are surprisingly looking ok. In the range they should be so far. I'm not doing opks as I might still have hcg in my system which would mess them up. I'm going to do a hpt in a week or so to check (kinda dreading that)

 

[Angel5000]

Ovulation can be very odd and messed up for a cycle after a CP. My temps were really off the cycle after my CPs and made it look like I had O'd much earlier than I had. And then I ended up Ovulating much later in the cycle than normal. Its possible that is what is happening for you

 

[Jezika]

Hmm, yes, I think that might be the case. Today I got an almost-positive OPK, so I'm hoping later on today it will be positive. It's CD15 today, so not far off my O day of CD14 last cycle. It would also be in line with my temps now since they went down this morning and the highest temps are still at or below the coverline of my last cycle. I'm expecting them to start going back up again. On a related note, I'm almost convinced I'll have another CP before getting a sticky bean. I know that's weird... it's just a feeling. Urghhh, what do we do to ourselves!?

 

[Angel5000]

Jezika - it's not weird, I've been that way too. I am almost positive if I get pregnant this cycle it'll turn into a CP and not stick. :/ We are so hard on ourselves.

 

[Jezika]

Argh, that's if I can even get pregnant this cycle. I'm peeing blood 'cause of UTI... it wasn't a good idea to BD again last night after UTI pain the day before, and now there's no way I can do it over the next few days. I really hope the little guys survive long enough in my tubes till I O.

 

[Angel5000]

Argh, that's if I can even get pregnant this cycle. I'm peeing blood 'cause of UTI... it wasn't a good idea to BD again last night after UTI pain the day before, and now there's no way I can do it over the next few days. I really hope the little guys survive long enough in my tubes till I O.

Oh no Jezika!!! That's awful!!! I have had a couple UTI's that were that bad. Go to the dr and get whatever you can!

I was getting UTI's pretty badly for awhile so now I make sure I only wait about 20 minutes after BD before I get up and go to the bathroom. I make sure to wash off afterwards (if I don't want to get in the actual shower I use a wash cloth and at least use soap and water to clean off), and I buy some very very high concentrated cranberry chewable pills and after we BD I take 2, no matter what. Ever since I started doing that routine I haven't had a UTI since. I also have D-Manose that I Take as soon as I start to feel the twinges that might be a UTI and that seems to stop it in it's tracks.



I hope you feel better soon. That is the absolute worst pain ever.

 

[Jezika]

OMG it's sooo bad and sooo debilitating. And there's a lot more blood than before. I'm glad you can relate, because I feel like people who've not experienced it find it hard to believe how bad it is. The worst thing is when it comes out of the blue when I'm out. I remember taking a long subway ride home once back in London with UTI pain and just having tears running down my face with the pain and with trying not to pee myself, even though I'd already peed a thousand times before leaving work. Not to mention how many plans and appts I've had to cancel last minute because of this.

As of last cycle I started a good BDing hygiene routine a lot like yours - washing before and after and peeing after. Like you, I usually stay lying down for a bit first. A few days ago I was lazy and didn't wash after BD, just peed like an hour after. I assumed it would be okay because both DH and I washed beforehand (he always washes beforehand too now). Gosh, I regret it so much, and also regret BDing again last night before the UTI had a chance of going away. It's so bad that I'd actually give up a cycle of TTC right now.

I used to take cranberry supplements but then got lazy when they ran out and hadn't had a UTI for a while. I'm interested in this D-Manose thing. I will look it up. What did docs say to you about your recurrent UTIs?

 

[Angel5000]

I never understood it because I never had one before i got together with DH. But before we got married he left for 6 weeks and when he came back we were very...active... and I didn't think about having to get up right away and clean up because I'd never had that problem before. Until I started peeing blood one day in the middle of work. it was the most awful experience. I can't just leave the classroom as a teacher, and so I have to restrict my bathroom breaks to between classes. My class periods at the time were 90 minutes long! It was hell. I had another adult one period because we had several sped students and so I told her what was going on and stepped out several times to go ot the bathroom. After that I had to go home. I just couldn't get through another class. I have a few of the "numbing pills" that they gave me left (the ones that make you pee orange for awhile) and I'm keeping them in case I get another one.

Sucks that the one time you don't get up and clean off you get one!! Awful!! I totally understand your pain. You can read reviews on D-Mannose for the ne i use on amazon:

Some people say it doesn't stop it really well after it's full force but makes for a good preventative. I just take it as soon as I feel the twinge starting (I can usually feel it coming a day in advance) and that plus the cranberry seems to work.

My last UTI's were before i moved to this state (so it's been about 2 years since I Had one) and I couldn't get in to see my doctor for those (the doctor was like "well, we can't get you in for a few hours but you can come wait and maybe we can work you in...." Ummmm no) so I went to urgent care both of those times. The doctor there basically told me to make sure I used a really good post-BD hygiene and then I did research and found the cranberry and D-Mannose from friends. Since then I haven't had to deal with it. Though a friend of mine gets them all the time because she has a very short urethra (?) and it causes bad UTI's. Nothing the can do about it though I guess.


I hope you feel better soon. I can't imagine. . . I would take severe AF pain or anything else over a UTI. Lots and lots of water. I read somewhere that someone said their doc said to sit in a warm bath and drink tons of water and just keep peeing. Kind of gross to sit in a warm bath you are peeing in.....but I guess you can keep cycling the water. it's more for comfort than anything else i think so you can just keep going to the bathroom.

 

[Jezika]

Oh man, I can't even imagine what it must be like to get it in the middle of teaching a class. If I get it when out, I have to get to a toilet ASAP and probably stay there for two hours just drinking water before it becomes bearable enough to get up.

I actually just bought some d-Mannosa from Amazon as per your suggestion (thanks!). I researched a bit online though and maybe you already know this, but there's mixed advice on whether to use during pregnancy and TTC. There haven't been any studies of its use during human pregnancy but there was a rat study that found it to be teratogenic during gestation (it talked about embryonic lethality, blindness and birth defects - wonderful!). I also saw some places not recommending it during TTC because of it possibly binding to sperm. I think I will hold off on using it till I know I'm not pregnant and when not ovulating. Hopefully it doesn't stick around too long. I thought I'd share this with you though in case you're not aware. Now I'm about to Google amoxycillin, because I have some of that from a few weeks ago.

 

[Sheece]

Urgh UTI's are horrid. I've never had one that involved blood though, touch wood!

10dpo today. Usually would expect AF tomorrow, but with these vitamins I'm hoping that I should be expecting it at 15 dpo. Well I'm hoping it doesn't show up at all, but you know what I mean

Had a random bit of EWCM today which was wierd. Felt a little bit off the last day or two, and slightly tender breasts, but nothing major so trying not to get my hopes up. Temps have also been on a downward spiral the last 4 mornings so I really hope they go up tomorrow :/

I'm scared to test! I feel like if I buy tests I'll get home and I'll have AF. Or I'll get a bunch of squinter lines like I did the last two months and get my hopes up again. Trying to hold out till Friday to test, see how I go!

 

[Angel5000]

Jezika - Thanks for the tips about using it while TTC! I didn't even think about that! I haven't used it in the last couple months but it never occurred to me that it could cause problems when TTC or pregnant. I'm glad you shared! I never would have thought to look it up.

Sheece - hopefully AF stays away for you!! If nothing else, a longer LP would be nice. Keep us up to date! I know your thoughts about testing though, I'm right there. I swear there have been at least a couple times when I've gone to test and then right after buying tests or right after I test she shows her face. Ugh.

 

[Jezika]

No worries, Angel. I wasn't really looking for info on risk during pregnancy either, just studies on its effectiveness (which I found a few of, yay!) and then came across the rat study and Googled further.

I started taking amoxicillin that I had prescribed to me a few weeks ago when I was freaking out about a possible kidney infection but didn't take. Very lucky because doc won't do anything medswise even if I can get an appt today (which I can't). As for O'ing, I did a late night wondfo and one this morning and they're both pretty faint. I thought maybe that my near-positive yesterday must've been my surge or that the wondfos last night and this morning were faint because of drinking unbelievable amounts of water, but my bloody temp went slightly down again this morning. Admittedly I slept absolutely terribly and was super hot and bothered so had opened a window and slept without a blanket (it's not actually hot outside - I'm in Canada for heaven's sake), so I probably just haven't O'd yet. Which sucks 'cause it's now CD16 and my cycles are an average of 25 days, plus the UTI has destroyed any hope of BDing. Grrrr.

 

[abennion]

I slept horrendously last night too (I live in Western Canada, so it really shouldn't be an issue)! I was all hot and uncomfortable, I even turned the fan on in the room to try to cool down. Finally I called hubby to bed at around midnight to see if a cuddle could help me fall asleep... we ended up staying up talking until 2 am, I finally got comfortable enough and then DH accidentally woke me up at 4 am... didn't fall back asleep until 5 am and then had to get up at 6 for work. I'm exhausted.

AFM: Roughly 2DPO. Looks like I'll have to test the day of my LEEP to confirm if this month is it. They can't do the LEEP if I've gotten a BFP (they have to scrape and cauterize the cervix, which could cause harm everything going on in the uterus). I keep hoping by not doing anything we'll get our BFP, but its looking more and more likely our only route is through the fertility clinic.

 

[Jezika]

Abennion - so weird that we both had a similar night of sleep. I also woke up at around 4am and couldn't get back to sleep. I just tried napping now and same thing - hot and bothered and just restless, urgh. I'm crossing my fingers for your BFP, but if it is a BFN you'll hopefully get some insight into what's going on and then skip merrily down the road to conception soon enough.

 

[Angel5000]

Jezika - if you haven't Od yet then your cycle will just be longer this month. Your LP stays consistent based off O time so if you O late then LP will stay the same and your cycle would just lengthen. It's possible the stress of the UTI could delay O. Or your near positive could be your surge. hard to tell with all the water you have to drink for the UTI.

Abennikn - sorry to hear about your sleep trouble! You know, the fertility clinic route isn't that awful. I just started and will begin testing at the beginning of my next cycle but it's so reassuring for me to know my dr at my fertility clinic is paying attention and taking me seriously. It sucks that I've been trying over a year now but I'm happy I'll have someone else looking at my info to help me figure it out

 

[abennion]

Its a little different in Canada, Angel. A doctor needs to diagnose that there is a fertility problem before you get referred to the fertility clinic. After that it's a good 4-6 month wait to see anyone. I'm on another board for IVF Canada, and on it I've talked to others who were/ are in my position. It looks like all they'll do is confirm DH does have a morphology issue with another SA and then we'll be right on the wait list for ICSI/IVF. We're looking at about $16k for our little baby, with no available funding to help. It is a little disheartening. We're looking to see if we can get a line of credit to help pay for all of the costs associated with IVF right now.

 

[Angel5000]

Oh! I'm so sorry! We had to wait a year and then are considered to be "infertile" and the are referred to clinic. My insurance won't pay for any fertility treatment either so if we do have to go the ivf or iui rote or anything then we are out of pocket too. they will pay for testing at 80% of costs as long as there's no diagnosis. The minute they place an actual infertility diagnosis on my paperwork my insurance stops paying :/

Right now I don't even know what our problems are though so I am looking forward to at least getting testing done. My PCP won't do any testing herself so we won't be able to find out if there's a hormone or sperm problem until next month when the RE starts testing.

Sorry to hear it's hard to get in though