Chinese Accupuncture

[Briss]

it's encouraging to have relatives who had their children in their forties! you have the right genes I am sure our ancestors did not need coq10 and the like cos the environment was different. just look at the sperm count, it dropped to practically nothing some pitiful 15 million is now considered to be the norm. previously men were not exposed to so much oestrogen and I am sure had billions upon billion of their little guys

 

[Briss]

AF got me today , much earlier than expected so may be FF was right about my O date afterall. Does not look like acu and herbs are helping with extending my cycle, my O day seems to come earlier and earlier

 

[Blythe]

Briss I am sorry that AF got you this month...I hope you are ok. The acu and herbs certainly seem to be shortening your cycle but your cycle still seems fine and healthy to me....i must have a nose later on FF for slightly shorter pregnancy cycles.

i find that the first day is the worst then i try to focus on the new cycle/chance to conceive. I am having the familiar pangs of pain which signal to me that AF will appear...its strange i am getting them around 6 days before AF shows and it only ever used to happen a day or two before.

when is your DH going to go for his next SA? My DH gets his results on tues so fx they are ok or at least good enough to go for IUI if thats a course we decide upon.

again for you...this really is hard to deal with sometimes.

 

[Briss]

Blythe, than you! I am very depressed, not only did AF show up but she also came early! I changed my previous chart to count spotting as CD1 cos I had to change pads as I recall and it seems to be considered as Cd1, well anyway I have two 24 day cycles in a row that's terrible. before such short cycles were an exception but since I had lap they are becoming a norm. this is so upsetting, the reason I went for lap is to improve my chances not to ruin them. DH is being disagreeable. I do not know what's it going to take to get him to do the test. I've already threatened him with a divorce not sure what else I can do.

Af got me so unprepared in a way, I do not even have a plan for the next cycle. I guess I try to get myself to do yoga but to be honest I feel like this is going to be the last cycle I am trying naturally. it's been over 2 years I do not think I can take it any longer, we have to move to assisted conception however scary this might. am reading FF forum and there are so many threads about complications during IVF, this is just really off putting.

 

[Blythe]

Blythe, than you! I am very depressed, not only did AF show up but she also came early! I changed my previous chart to count spotting as CD1 cos I had to change pads as I recall and it seems to be considered as Cd1, well anyway I have two 24 day cycles in a row that's terrible. before such short cycles were an exception but since I had lap they are becoming a norm. this is so upsetting, the reason I went for lap is to improve my chances not to ruin them. DH is being disagreeable. I do not know what's it going to take to get him to do the test. I've already threatened him with a divorce not sure what else I can do.

Af got me so unprepared in a way, I do not even have a plan for the next cycle. I guess I try to get myself to do yoga but to be honest I feel like this is going to be the last cycle I am trying naturally. it's been over 2 years I do not think I can take it any longer, we have to move to assisted conception however scary this might. am reading FF forum and there are so many threads about complications during IVF, this is just really off putting.

I wonder why the lap had an effect on your cycles...i do completely appreciate how frustrating and often devastating when we feel our cycles are out of whack. I was in pieces when i ovulated two days later than usual a few cycles back. I have to trust that the acu and herbs and the other supplements i am ramming down my throat everyday are slowly but surely taking me towards my goal. I was reading about women who had undertaken courses of acu and it had screwed their cycles [or so they thought] and then they got their BFP. Perhaps a shorter cycle works for your body and perhaps it will improve your chances of that BFP. 28 days is the average/norm but not always the optimum length of a cycle. i have just seen some pregnancy charts where the girls ovulated on days 8 and another on day 9.

im sure your options will become clearer once you have the next set of SA results [i do hope DH will do it soon]. The IVF drugs scare the crap out of me...i so wish i had the funds to try a few rounds of natural ivf...

 

[Briss]

I think it's hysteroscopy rather than lap, i do not really know after I had this operation I suddenly got 22 day cycle followed by 23 day cycle while my average is 26. and since the operation my cycles have been on the shorter side. I asked FS but she just said I am basically approaching menopause so operation had nothing with it it would have happened anyway. I do not believe this.

Will not be taking EPO this cycle, cos it usually delays my O for 10-2 days but last cycle it did not work I wonder if it does not work well together with chinese herbs I am taking. Will ask my acu doc on sunday.

just watched this new program baby makers on e-player it's about IVF very interesting but not reassuring.

am drowning my CD1 sorrow in M&S' eclairs to hell with smoothies for today

 

[Blythe]

i am encouraged by my temps and feel the acu and herbs are levelling them out which is a positive. I will probably sign up for another package of 5 weeks of herbs and 5 acu appts.

My DH is pi**ing me off today...he is really grumbling about the maca powder which i make him drink in the morning. He is grouching around holding his stomach saying it gives him really bad cramps. His face looks like he is in pain and he says he might have to stop taking it. What a woossss...honestly men have no idea what we go through!

 

[Briss]

Blythe, your temps look great! fingers crossed they will stay up

My Dh would not take maca powder and I am so tired of this endless arguments over this, so I give him caps about 1000-1500 a day and I also sneak maca powder in his food and coffee whenever I can, there is no other way to get him to take it... sometimes he notices that food taste "funny" but I usually manage to persuade him that this is some new spices I am trying. He thinks he hates "cinnamon" in his coffee, if only he knew....

 

[Blythe]

Thats brilliant....made me laugh! Instead on getting angry i tried a different approach and asked him where it hurt (in fake symphathetic voice). Apparently pains near chest.....so we are essentially talking about a bit of reflux/indigestion! Honestly.....amyhow, i said we would try it with a different juice to see if he could stomach it then....if not then he will soon be getting some cinnamin in his coffee.

Just has acu and he put 4 needles in tummy...the most he has put there yet inc zigongs and they didnt hurt for a change. I have a lumpy bruise forming on forehead though from one of the needles.

 

[Briss]

I never had needles in my forehead, i wonder what's it for. I get one in my head and sometimes in my chin but that's for acne.

did your doc check your pulse today? I have this dream that one day after O my doc is going to check my pulse and say that I am pregnant silly i know but one can dream

 

[Blythe]

I have that dream too.....he checked my pulse and then put needles between thumb and forefinger which is apparently contraindicated during preg.

I did a test last night as had really sore bbs....bfn and again this morning. Its the prog cream side effects. I will stop taking it today as dont want to delay AF. Ive just ordered some dhea...sod it!

 

[Briss]

you are only 12 DPO, wait a couple of days before testing.

where did you buy DHEA? I've been thinking of taking it for some time now, still cant make up my mind. it seems to be increasing testosterone as a side effect

your temps look fantastic!

 

[Blythe]

i ordered these this morning....

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jarrow-For...YGV8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1358074669&sr=8-3

they are 25mg and i was thinking about starting a bit lower than that but it seems that girls are taking 2 x per day in prep for IVF so i might try just the one. Obviously concerns re anger issues/beard growth etc but will adjust dosage accordingly if any of these factor in for me.

my temps do look good and i love not having the fluctuations i was before so i credit the acu/herbs with that but the progesterone will also be having an effect i expect. I only tested as i wanted to see if to discontinue with prog cream and meeting friends for lunch and will have a drink.

 

[Briss]

thank you I may order some dhea as well

Just came back from my acu session, right zigong was painful as usual. I complained about my short cycles, last two were 24 days and mainly cos I ovulate early I think. doc looked at my charts but did not think it was an issue cos my lp is within norm. They want me to take Tiao Jing Cu Yun Wan again and I actually think that it was exactly what caused me to O early. I was trying to explain it to the doc's assistant but she was just trying to make me take it and preferably buy it from them. maybe I messed it up myself cos i was supposed to take it from CD5 for 20 days and I stopped at 10-11 DPO cos I read that it should not be taken during pregnancy so basically I split it between two cycles and the second cycle I was taking it only once a day. I lied to the assistant and said I was taking it as instructed both cycles but for the second cycle I bought Tiao Jing Cu Yun Wan on the internet. Doc assistant said that herbs on the internet are not good even if they look exactly like their herbs. then she looked at my charts and said that my first 24 day cycle was normal but my second 24 day cycle came 5 days early. I thought it was complete rubbish she was just trying to make her point i.e. buy herbs from us. In the end I thought there was no point arguing with her and said I will continue taking Tiao Jing Cu Yun Wan which I am not going to do. I want to see if I O later and have longer cycle without it.

 

[Blythe]

Yeah i think you have to go with your gut instinct on this one....it will be interesting to see if you ovulate a little later this month. Are you ditching the epo this cycle?

 

[Briss]

yes i feel EPO is not working well with chinese herbs for some reason so will try this cycle to go without it

 

[Briss]

i still have red dots where the needles were. I am not sure if it's supposed to be red for days after the acu?

got another mini acne breakout on my chin clearly these herbs are not doing what they are supposed to.

also something is wrong with my hormones this cycle from the very start i've been crying non stop every day, literally everything makes me feel sad and teary

 

[Blythe]

Oh no....i hope your hormones level out soon...maybe everything is rebalancing or you are letting go of stuff....it may be a good thing (although doesnt feel like it i expect).

My dh just got home from docs as they told me his results were back but they dont have them. He did it 4 weeks ago so if they dont have them i will cry...the last sample they tested a day late so it was no good.

Im going to doc on mon to see if they can send me to test to see if my tubes are blocked or not.

 

[Blythe]

The docs just called my dh and the hospital him that the sample was old and had bacteria in it so no good. He literally produced the sample in the hospital loos.....im so so angry. He is fuming as he has to take time off work. He will go again but said he wont do it again.....im so angry with the nhs!!!

 

[Blythe]

Briss...just seen this and thought of you.

https://community.babycentre.co.uk/post/a726775/about_to_start_acupuncture_any_success_stories

One lady said she got acne with acu and that her acu person said it was the body healing itself and she got pregnant after too!