Chinese Accupuncture

[Briss]

how awful!!! what hospital was it? they are supposed to be looking at it immediately, i cant believe they ruined two samples this is outrages! we do my DH's tests in Hammersmith hospital and my FS last time called them two days later and they told her the results over the phone.

CD 7 for me and got HIGh immediately so no hope for a longer cycle again

 

[Briss]

Briss...just seen this and thought of you.

https://community.babycentre.co.uk/post/a726775/about_to_start_acupuncture_any_success_stories

One lady said she got acne with acu and that her acu person said it was the body healing itself and she got pregnant after too!

thank you! never thought acne could be a sign of healing I will stick around with acu to see if it makes anything better although so far the main negatives are shorter cycles and spotting, well and acne. the good thing is much less clotting

 

[Blythe]

how awful!!! what hospital was it? they are supposed to be looking at it immediately, i cant believe they ruined two samples this is outrages! we do my DH's tests in Hammersmith hospital and my FS last time called them two days later and they told her the results over the phone.

CD 7 for me and got HIGh immediately so no hope for a longer cycle again

Its st georges in tooting.....dh is furious and intends to go there again on monday and do a last sample and give them what for. The fact that they did not even bother to contact docs to let them know they had messed up again really p'd me off.

Did you have to wait along time for your test for tube blockages.i think the one where put dye into them. Im going to try and get this tested even though i know you have had some issues re cycles since. I just want the all clear and then maybe save some money along the line if i do go private as i hope they wont have to test again.

Im expecting af either later today or first thing.....my pmt symptoms this month have been less than others so that is great and im interested to see what the bleeding will be like after a good few weeks of herbs and acu. I think its great that your clotting has got better...a really positive sign!

 

[Briss]

I did HSG (the one where put dye into the tubes, cant remember abbreviation) in Sep 2011 and it was totally fine, my AF after that was a bit more painful than usual but there were no other side effects. But unfortunately it did not answer all the questions and FS sent me for further tests. it was lap&Dye/Hysteroscopy that I had in april last year that messed it up for me. To book HSG I just called them on CD 1, cos you cant do it after CD15 and also they do not allow any BD so this might be a wasted cycle from TTC prospective.

 

[Blythe]

thank you for info....i have my appt on monday morning so fingers crossed a referral will be straightforward for me.

I recently picked up a book in a local second hand shop called 'Healing with Whole Foods: Asian Traditions and Modern Nutrition'...its enormous but ive been eyeing it up for years and glad i got it. It really explains the energetics of particular foods from the TCM perspective and has tons of info on how to help your body heal itself using food. Unfortunately chocolate does not get a mention [well it does but its not good].

how you getting on with the yoga? are you doing some each week? I still cannot make myself do any exercise which is bad i know and am determined to do something soon!

 

[Briss]

your chart looks excellent! fingers crossed you wont need this referral I can see that your temp dropped a little bit when you stopped progesterone, but not by too much so I guess your temps are great due to acu

re yoga, well I am still reading about kundalini yoga and trying to understand how it works. Pathetic I know but I did not do any exercises yet. I have several CDs with exercise and I started one but stopped fairly quickly as I did not expect it to be so intense. I did not have the strength and energy to do it. I need to start very slow with maybe 2-3 exercises and then hopefully it will gradually become part of my routine.

My Dh discovered spirulina, all by himself! He had so much of it yesterday. I cant be more pleased. although he still mistrusts the Chinese herbs, so it's a struggle every morning

Interesting book, am going to check it out.

 

[Blythe]

your chart looks excellent! fingers crossed you wont need this referral I can see that your temp dropped a little bit when you stopped progesterone, but not by too much so I guess your temps are great due to acu

re yoga, well I am still reading about kundalini yoga and trying to understand how it works. Pathetic I know but I did not do any exercises yet. I have several CDs with exercise and I started one but stopped fairly quickly as I did not expect it to be so intense. I did not have the strength and energy to do it. I need to start very slow with maybe 2-3 exercises and then hopefully it will gradually become part of my routine.

My Dh discovered spirulina, all by himself! He had so much of it yesterday. I cant be more pleased. although he still mistrusts the Chinese herbs, so it's a struggle every morning

Interesting book, am going to check it out.

i don't think its pathetic at all....working full time and then fitting in fitness and nutrition and treatments is exhausting. I know what i need to do but i physically struggle. This time of year is so cold and dark that the thought of coming home then doing any form of exercise is just a step too far at the moment. Although i do know that it would only take a few days for it to become the norm again! Just got to struggle through those first few days i guess.

my temps are nice and even and i am really happy with lack of PMT symptoms, in particular i used to get quite unpleasant stomach pains intermittently from about 6/5 days before AF and those have virtually gone this cycle and i used to get really angry about 3/4 days before she came and, again, that hasn't happened. My recent negative pregnancy tests and the fact my boobs are no longer hurting have put paid to any hope of a positive but thats ok i will get it. Im just relieved that the treatments are having an effect and im still thrilled with the prog cream stopping my spotting. My DHEA has been despatched so i will start on 25mg per day once they arrive.

great news about your DH getting some spirulina down his throat! The Paul Pitchford book i mentioned earlier has a whole section of green foods, so the wheatgrasses/barleygrasses and spirulinas etc...

 

[Briss]

I stopped making juices a couple of weeks ago, first I replaced them with smoothies which are far easier to make (and less cleaning up afterwards) but then even smoothies became a struggle, as you said it's just too cold. I am still trying to squeeze a few grapefruits a day for better CM but this is it. I do not know what to do about chocolate, I just cannot go on without. I literally do not feel well without constantly eating sugar, often though I can eat dry fruit instead of chocolate (has the same effect on me).

acne is just getting worse, every morning I wake to a new "friend" on my face

Thank you for recommending this book. I feel I need some inspiration for eating better, just ordered it off amazon … reviews are fantastic. I eat lost of cold raw salads which on hand are supposed to be great healthy stuff but from Chinese standpoint not so great, struggle to understand why

your temp is so promising but I do not want to raise your hopes, just keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you for this cycle…

are you going to be taking DHEA pre O only? I think DHEA is very powerful so I am still unsure whether I should take it, I used to have raised testosterone levels so maybe I am not the best candidate for this. cant decide

 

[Blythe]

Just started bleeding.....well spotting so wont count today as cd1 yet at least. I knew anyway so not at all gutted this cycle just pretty happy with the overall improvements. Dh has just come home with sample bottle and paperwork for new analysis on monday so fingers crossed this one will work!

Glad you ordered the book....it is something i see myself dipping into for years.

I have been making the blueberry/banana smoothie you recommended and i put in flaxseed and wheatgrass powder and stick it in a flask for work. But chocolate usually features at least once a day.....

 

[Briss]

I am sorry you started spotting I am still hoping it will stop

is the smoothies still good with wheatgrass? I usually add spinach cos i cant taste it, once i added watercress and it was rather awful it spoiled the entire drink.

I felt so guilty today cos I am not exercising or maybe because I saw myself in three-way mirror in a fitting room... not a pretty sight, needless to say I did not buy that dress. anyway, i got home and did an hour total workout with Jane Fonda followed buy some kundalini yoga exercises no idea where I got the energy from

why did your DH bring the sample bottle, are you doing it at home and then bringing it to the hospital? It may work if the hospital is near otherwise it might be better to do it at the hospital.

 

[Blythe]

I am sorry you started spotting I am still hoping it will stop

is the smoothies still good with wheatgrass? I usually add spinach cos i cant taste it, once i added watercress and it was rather awful it spoiled the entire drink.

I felt so guilty today cos I am not exercising or maybe because I saw myself in three-way mirror in a fitting room... not a pretty sight, needless to say I did not buy that dress. anyway, i got home and did an hour total workout with Jane Fonda followed buy some kundalini yoga exercises no idea where I got the energy from

why did your DH bring the sample bottle, are you doing it at home and then bringing it to the hospital? It may work if the hospital is near otherwise it might be better to do it at the hospital.

oh yeah i forgot that i used spinach in the smoothie too and just a large teaspoon of the wheatgrass. I used to put fruit juice into my smoothies but just use water now so it is super healthily....as i put loads of spinach in so the taste is not as great as it would be with less spinach and no wheatgrass but its actually ok after a couple of days.

DH was given a sample bottle to use for next monday so this had better work...he produced the sample in the toilets opposite the reception area he then handed it into so im not sure what they are talking about...and the fact that they have buggered up two samples is just really upsetting.....dont they realise that people depend on them to get these right!!! But he will hand it into them again on monday morning and demand that this one is done right away.

I love jane fonda...well done for the exercise. I bet you felt great afterwards

cd1 for me today although i started spotting last night but the blood is red so thats good...really hardly any usual discomfort i used to get on CD1 so that makes me happy [in the absence of getting that BFP i have to look for the smaller things to get me smiling nowadays!!]

 

[Briss]

Blythe, I am so very sorry AF got you, but you are right we should try to look on the bright side i.e. your post O temps was amazing and AF seems to be treating you well is also a good sign that acu's working

I am so tired today but will persevere with jane fonda again, cos I have only 3 days between AF and O when I can do proper aerobics, I wont risk jumping around during O so I do not accidently kick my egg out of the tube... I guess once my temp is up I can do a couple of days of aerobics or may be not. would it help the swimmers to get to the egg while I am jumping around? or will it make it more difficult for them? really cant say. Yoga is probably safer but the kundalini kind I am doing is really intense, it's not about stretching and doing various poses, it's about making very fast movements together with breathing in a certain way so it gets really tiring after a few minutes

 

[Blythe]

i think during and post ovulation is a time to take it easier and avoid aerobics although perhaps the yoga will be ok because even though it sounds pretty hardcore i think the movements should not be too jumpy. Others may have an opinion on this and think the more movement the better as it all gets the blood circulating but im not so sure. The TCM stuff says to hold back on full on exercise during those two weeks.

i have so much work on, but not so much that i couldn't spend an hour deciding whether to ditch current COQ10 and buy much more expensive ubiquinol COQ10....which one are you taking? Im taking 400mg of the normal one.

 

[Briss]

I am currently taking the normal one https://www.naturesbest.co.uk/co-q10-100mg-p729/?src=gocoqo but as soon as it's finished I am going for this one https://www.highernature.co.uk/ShowProductFamily.aspx?ProductFamilyID=247 I think it's also a normal one but even though it say 30 on the bottle because of its high potency it's actually equivalent to over 300 so one cap would be enough for me. I am not buying into ubiquinol cos from what I read it's not that different and if you take coq10 together with vit E you get the same thing (ubiquinol is easily absorbed and you need vitamin E for absorption of coq10 so I figured this should save me some cost)

well if I only have 3 days until O I'd better carry on with J fonda… although am so tired am falling asleep as I type. I hope my motivations stays once I get home

 

[Blythe]

Thanks for info....i will invest in some vit e capsules instead.....

Gl wlth exercise tonight.....

 

[Blythe]

Was nosing around the normal ttc bit earler and saw a post from a young girl who is desperate for another child. Her and her new partner have been together a year (!) and been ttc for a few of those months (i assume)....she looks no older than 21....how about get to know your boyfriend properly first!!

Have acu tomorrow but as on period dont expect any needles in tummy....i saw a fertility acu site and her programmes were based on 3 acu treatments a month...none on week of period and that kind of fits in with ive been reading. Im thinking i might drop treatments when bleeding and supplements too (other than coq10) as it makes it more cost effective for me and easier to keep up with if i have to do this for months.

 

[Briss]

I also venture sometimes to general TTC section but usually only when I have a particular question cos there are far more people looking through this section and more likely to get an answer. I stupidly joined a thread of ladies ovulating during Christmas, most got BFPs in Jan after TTc for a couple of months while I am still here; depressing so I am also sticking to over 35 or LTTTC sections.

I have a pregnant friend with whom I am not even talking any more I've been TTC for ages and when she started I offered lots of help and advice and not surprisingly she got pregnant on her second month. it was just so awkward so we stopped talking and now no one knows how to make the first step. I am in no hurry, just too hard.

Got the food book, oh my it's huge! I am so excited, there is wealth of info, I wish I could just swallow it and get all this knowledge into my head straight away

 

[Briss]

I had acu on CD 4 and 5 and both times I had needles in my tummy... but I am not concerned, my only worry is anything post O

 

[Blythe]

have just ordered this...uk site no P&P costs

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0013OSKKY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

its DHEA without the horrid side effects...i wont bother with the other ones i ordered. I have a new app on my phone to record how much i spend...on tea, choc, shopping etc etc and set up a tab for TTC....its frightening how much i spend

Your book arrived fast...its brill isn't it!

 

[Briss]

I've never heard of this type of DHEA, how did you find out about it? Do you trust this "Now Foods" brand? I bought their horny goat for my DH but I am not sure it's working.

I know far too well about spending on TTC, I decided not to keep track of how much I spent because it will make me seriously depressed, we are talking thousands over the last 2 years (maybe even enough for medicated IVF, definitely cover the natural). I try and shift some of it to my DH, but unfortunately I order most on-line (because I do not think H&B stuff is good quality) so it all come out of my credit card...

I am in a bit of a panic today, we were saving DH's sperm for 2 days so we could BD on the first peak which we did but late at night and this morning I got a temp rise, I checked 3 times and put down the lowest temp I got (I will play with it later when I get cross hairs) but it still looks like I O yesterday which means we totally missed it on the other hand I did not sleep well, was tossing and turning all night barely slept for a couple of hours in total which may explain the raised temp this morning. shall I ignore it? besides I never O on my first peak, I O either on my second peak or on the high after that and also I really hate the idea of O on CD10 it will probably be clear when (or should I say if) AF shows up cos my LH is 13-14 days so I will just count backwards to confirm O.